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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Equipment forum JONG 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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livetoski, is it the removable RAS system that Scott are offering in their airbag packs?
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spyderjon, yes the Scott ones are using the RAS system
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Presumably RAS are at a lower pricepoint for each size bag? Not that hard a decision but presumably given the price not many retailers will be stocking a full range of each. If they were the sales conversation goes
- What size does sir want?
- Does sir want all around coverage or removeability?
- Price is XX
- Yes sir you can have the bigger bag in RAS for the same price as the traditional smaller - that's the tradeoff.
Feckin idiots though calling everything the same and cue lots of mispricing in the eBay world.
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livetoski I'm not sure I follow this. I've just taken a look at the Mammut website and this says that the protection bag is simply a RAS enabled bag with an in-built back protector:
http://www.mammut.ch/en/productDetail/261000130_v_0216/Protection-R.A.S.-ready.html
I know that Mammut are looking at making the Snowpulse-style wrap-around airbag removable, but there's nothing on their website yet.
[edit] doh! sorry livetoski - why don't I just read your website?
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There is now a period of cross over with Snowpulse and Mammut as many will know Mammut bought out Snowpulse and are now developing the range within the Mammut brand, however they are still retaining references to Snowpulse on the bags for next season.
Some of the bags are being renamed for next season and some of these have caused a little confusion!
So I will try and explain:
Mammut have two ranges, the Protection range and the RAS range or Removable Airbag System, the Protection range replaces the Snowpulse range from last season and still has the airbag being deployed from the shoulder straps, this airbag is also removable so you can now swap between different Mammut bags, but only from the Protection range.
The RAS range has increased to cover all sizes and is still a squarer airbag which deploys from the top of the backpack.
Each range has 4 models, which have been called the same! 
So these are the Rocker, Ride, Light and Pro models so you have a:
Rocker Protection and a Rocker RAS and a Ride Protection and a Ride RAS etc etc. the sizes on each range vary and thankfully are not all the same.
As a last point its worth mentioning that the Protection airbag and the RAS airbag are not interchangeable between the backpacks.
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If cost wasn't really an issue which range would you choose ?? Why ??
Low weight, quality, ease of use and performance in an "incident" being more important to me than ££
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qwertyuiop7, I have the snow pulse guide 30 which would fall into the protection range, I chose this one as it is designed to provide your head and neck with trauma protection during an avalanche. I agree with your comment about £££.
I have not had to deploy it yet (fingers crossed).
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duncan, 
qwertyuiop7, I tend to like the Snowpulse style airbag which inflates around the chest, head and neck area as this offers some extra protection over the other shape of airbags, all the airbags designs do what they are supposed to so most people decide upon a number of trade offs, which as mentioned are weight, and performance, on airbags price tends to be less of a priority than other ski gear.
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