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Maybe he fell down the slope. You can travel a long distance when the slope is falling away ......... |
Of course. But the implication is that he was 'thrown' i.e. airborne for 34 feet.
As for the steepness of the piste, yes, the overall grade for the runs are Red/Blue but whilst there are steep sections above, the section where he fell was not on the steepest bit of the slope hence my comment.
There is a very good video on one of the daily newspaper's online page - sorry can't remember which one - where there are good reference points to the angle of the slope (like bunches of journalists and investigators standing around). I'm not questioning the nature or causes of the accident - just the flipping ongoing crud from the papers with a good sprinkling of 'thrown' 'horrific' etc for good measure.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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the area the accident happened is not steep.
the area above it was steeper.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The telegraph indulging in pure speculation once again. Nothing to report, so let dig up some experts who will say something expert about a Patient they have never even looked at 
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Steilhang, it is speculation, but the DT makes it very clear that it is speculation. It is however quite well informed speculation bearing in mind the background of those quoted. I see nothing wrong with an expert making a statement along the lines of ...'....bearing in mind what we have been told I think it us unlikely that ......'. That seems a reasonable comment to me. That are not saying MS will not make a full recovery, just that it is looking increasingly less likely.
Thee has been plenty of shoddy journalism surrounding this sorry tale, but I don't think this article is necessarily part of it.
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The article even contains the sentence "Other experts said it was premature to make an accurate prognosis." which hardly engenders a lot of faith in it.
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foxtrotzulu, so we have an article which tells us exactly nothing new about the current state of MS, and goes on to state that it's all pure speculation... Think I won't be running out to pay money for that then.
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Steilhang,
The telegraph may be basing a lot on a little, but my reading is that it is following a new statement from his agent stating that he is still in the wake up phase.
So there is some new information, doesn't sound very hopeful unfortunately.
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PeteMan, Steilhang, Actually, I think the article was helpful. I certainly understand more about the likely prognosis than I did before.
Suppose a person falls overboard from a North Sea ferry. 12 hours later doctors and survival experts comment on the possibility of that person still being alive after x hours in the water. Their comments are valid and informed. They are helpful to others. However, quite clearly they do not know the actual well being of the person in the water. I can't see the problem.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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nozawaonsen, I thought his comments on the PR side were interesting too. I simply don't get the idea that MS's fans made any meaningful contribution to his success and I certainly don't think MS's wife has any responsibility to them. I imagine she has slightly more important things on her mind right now than a bunch of dysfunctional weirdos, some of whom staged a daft birthday vigil outside his hospital.
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dysfunctional weirdos, some of whom staged a daft birthday vigil outside his hospital.
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a bit harsh! I am not remotely interested in F1 and I do agree that "fandom" can be a daft business but that kind of response, when somebody you think a lot of is fighting for his life, is not exactly "daft". It's dafter, IMV, when people do it after somebody has died when it will definitely do them no good at all to pile up flowers and teddies in the street. After all, it was entirely possible that the patient would be aware, at some level, of their support. It now looks unlikely, given the extent of the damage, that that would have been the case but, just as his wife has been in to see and talk to MS, that is surely a more human reaction than simply ignoring him?
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You know it makes sense.
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What is the correct level of support? If nobody gave a monkey's I doubt the Schumacher family would appreciate that either.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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If I were his wife I'm not sure I'd want him to survive with the extent of disability that seems inevitable, in the "best" outcome that he survives. In fact, I'm sure I wouldn't. And would he have wanted that? Would anybody? 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just hope he eventually pulls through
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Still no official announcements, only speculation and rumour, so given what his family have said in the past, I will continue to be optimistic and hopeful for his family.
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| Still no official announcements, only speculation and rumour, so given what his family have said in the past, I will continue to be optimistic and hopeful for his family. |
+1
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Well I hope he comes out of it, but it's really not looking good - experts quoted as saying that the majority of people in a coma for this length of time do not have a good outcome.
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Sounds like he's busy teaching Gene Hunt how to drive that Quattro
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As much as I wish it didn't, that statement reads "No change" to me.
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and this is an official statement rather than the garbage the papers have been publishing recently.
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Richard_Sideways,
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As much as I wish it didn't, that statement reads "No change" to me.
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Pretty much agree though I would say little change rather than no change. Family being confident that he will wake up sounds as if he has definitely not woken up nearly three months after the accident. Not Good I'm afraid.
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| There sometimes are small, encouraging signs, but we also know that this is the time to be very patient |
Horrible wating day after day for some sign - any sign - of progress.
My sympathies.
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I think that's terribly sad. It'll be a sort of living mausoleum.
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You know it makes sense.
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pam w, very very sad.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poor bloke. Poor family
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Poster: A snowHead
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I hate the idea of that poor lad, living with the wasting, dying, shell of the champion that was his father. When will he be able to start mourning his loss?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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pam w, I would hope that in similar circumstances, I would have the courage to let go.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I will stick to my posts on this thread, No official info, therefore, everything "out there" is nothing short of speculation and rumour. He is alive and I continue to hope for the best, just as I would if it was someone I had never heard of.
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thecramps, 100% agree
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Whilst I am in general agreement with thecramps, particulalry in regard to hoping for the best, I can't help think that without the celebrity/financial ability, the prognosis would have led most to accept that there was no chance of recovery to any degree. I've not read all the reports etc, but were a patient to be on life support, with no change at all likely, IMHO, it would be best to allow a dignified death and an opportunity to mourn.
Whatever the outcome, one has to feel extremely sad for the family, relatives and close friends. It is hard to imagine what they must be going through.
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Except Louis Theroux's documentary on Snday (?) where he followed a number of people who were in hospital critically I'll.
One chap was never going to wake up - clear as day.
Couple of months later he did
A "miracle"
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sev112, I saw that too and was thinking his case while reading the new posts in this thraed. The young man in the film had a near miraculous recovery. As the doctors suggested at the time, he was a million-to-one chance, and they suspected that his recovery was down to his age, although it was quite clear to see that he would be suffering the effects of his brain injury for a very long time, if not for the rest of his life.
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Richard_Sideways,
Worryingly (?) I cried when the chap before him got married in the hospital and then they said he died 3 days later - couldn't stop myself. - freaky for a 47 year old man!
The miracle guy was walking around - albeit slowly , his body has to learn to do everything again and he has to rebuild the neural networks for everything again.
I am hoping that MS will also slowly recover, and hope that his inherent fitness and intelligence will help. I am sure that his family would welcome a slowly walking around dad/husband,
After seeing the LT programme, I think I at least now have some hope that he could still come through
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