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we may consider some of the extensions for this project, thank you for submitting very good suggestions.
--Kate.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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(I thought I wrote a post a few mins ago but it isn't here!) OH YES IT IS 
Done,
A good suvey but some questions do not apply in Europe or mean something else, For example a rope accross access to off piste means "at your own risk" (the normal situation). A run marked as closed is quite different. Also we do not have single lines, though we should.
As you probably know we do not have the concept of back-country skiing. I ski mostly off-piste and often miles from any piste but this most often does not involve hiking or climbing (though sometimes it does). If you have a good guide (essential for good off-piste skiing for recreational skiers) he should be able to give you fresh tracks a week or two after any new snow. Skiers in England very seldom ski for a weekend - they book many months ahead for a week, so parking is usually irrelevant.
I so seldome ski a crowded piste I had difficulty remembering what I do!
The survey seems only concerned with piste skiing. Are you interested in other questions: eg Do people wear avalanche transcievers always/specifically when they expect to go off piste/never? (all my friends wear them), Do people carry shovel and probe ?(my friends mostly do - it is requested for Ski Club of GB off-piste holidays now, while helmets are not): Do peole hire a guide to go off-piste or rely on their own knowledge of the area and expertise about avalanche danger?
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Sun 24-09-06 9:49; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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snowball,
I get your previous post.
Thank you for very good suggestions.
--Kate.
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By guide, of course, I mean a proper UIAGM high mountain guide (they have a very long and difficult training and are generally the only people allowed to guide on glaciers over here - ordinary ski school teachers are not.)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Done, a very good survey.
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Done - look forward to the conlusions
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| snowball wrote: |
| Similarly we don't have singles lines (though we should) |
They do in the Skiwelt, usually on the bigger chairs with a separate funnel to an end seat.
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snowball, I have used the singles line in Courchevel. Its the only place I ever seen it (having not been to N America yet).
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| snowball wrote: |
(I thought I wrote a post a few mins ago but it isn't here!) OH YES IT IS
Skiers in England very seldom ski for a weekend - they book many months ahead for a week, so parking is usually irrelevant. |
This may have been the case historically but e.g. last season all my trips to Europe were for less than a week. I may be an isolated example (and certainly I wouldn't expect the family shs to be doing this) but I think frequent and plentiful affordable flights means that this is a growing model.
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fatbob, I'd agree with you. We've done a few 3-4 day trips as well as the 7 day ones.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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OK, perhaps I'm out of date - I just don't know anyone who does it . ( I did one weekend but that was because I won it in a competition).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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kate_utah, welcome to snowHeads, I did the survey, very good and comprehensive, good luck with your studies!
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Thanks!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Agenterre wrote: |
kate_utah, Welcome , Done... my fifty bucks to :sH; and an extra fifty if we get more responses than the epic mob (sorry foxy)  |
This looks to me like the gauntlett has been thrown! Challenge On!
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Poster: A snowHead
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done too - would love to see the results ...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Done. Hope I'm not too late.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowball wrote: |
| ...........As you probably know we do not have the concept of back-country skiing. ....... |
I thought American "Back country skiing" equated to our "ski touring". Not so?
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thanks for your response. IT'S NOT TOO LATE! We are still collecting data and hoping for more responses.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| achilles wrote: |
| snowball wrote: |
| ...........As you probably know we do not have the concept of back-country skiing. ....... |
I thought American "Back country skiing" equated to our "ski touring". Not so? |
You could be right - I'm not sure. I think I was thinking of Out-of-bounds skiing when I wrote that Since we don't have in-bounds off-piste, all our off-piste is equally unsafe. The questions didn't seem to register off-piste skiing as we know it at all. Since this is a large part of skiing (and 90percent of mine) I felt it was a big hole in the survey.
Touring (using skins) is something else again - more specialist but also not mentioned (unless, as you say, it is the same as "Back country skiing").
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Since we don't have in-bounds off-piste
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what do we call the stuff between the pistes if it's not that? Just asking out of interest. For example a certain website owner that I know quite well found himself in an interesting situation a couple of years ago in Val Thorens, about 100 m from the piste. A pisteur happened to come down the piste (it was about 5.15pm) and was welcomed into our little group. He seemed happy enough to join in. What do we call that?
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Skiving
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David Goldsmith, well he worked quite hard from what I could see.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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As I understand it...
Ski touring generally involves a commitment to earn your turns by walking up, as well as, skiing down - and going from one place to another.
Off-piste, generally involves skiing down - although you might well walk up to earn the turns.
In Europe, if you're not on the piste, you're off-piste.
Nothing except the pistes in a European ski area are avalanched controlled. (Unless it's an itinary.)
You generally wouldn't get rescued for free if you're off-piste in Europe.
Backcountry skiing is skiing outside of a ski area boundary and isn't avalanche controlled.
Some backcountry involves going up, as well as down, things - which equals our ski touring.
But some backcountry is equally just our off-piste as it involves skiing largely down.
Anything within an American ski area is otherwise inbounds and avalanche controlled - unless it's marked out of bounds.
You will be rescued for free by the ski patrol if you ski inbounds, but off-piste.
Most insurance policies treat inbounds off-piste in American resort as on-piste - because it's avalanche controlled.
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Skiers in England very seldom ski for a weekend - they book many months ahead for a week, so parking is usually irrelevant.
maybe so but not for skiers in scotland, had to walk for about 30 mins to get from where we parked the car to the lift at glenshee one very busy weekend in february this year 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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very good insights about US vs Europe differences, thanks to everyone.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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PhillipStanton, good summary and, I think, spot on.
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I would like to thank everyone who participated, I got quite a few UK (and other European) responses thanks to this message board.
Thank you very much for your participation and good luck with the upcoming ski season.
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