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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| under a new name wrote: |
@johnE, mine invariably takes the turning leading to the next valley over, and I only notice once I'm well below it  |
Mine always appears so happy as she does so.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I made a credit card size copy of passport and carry that in ski wallet. PLus copy of EHIC. If required I can always produce the real things later.
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| James the Last wrote: |
| Judwin wrote: |
| And whilst I do "own" a passport (obvs), I've no intention of carrying it with me on the piste or out to bars/resturaunts. |
Under French law you are required to carry proof of identity with you at all times. Or produce it at a police station within four hours of the demand. So no Frenchman will be surprised to be asked to produce his identity card on the piste. |
Same in Switzerland and I would guess many other countries. however the french also have a credit card sized ID card as well as a passport. In Switzerland, my (cc sized) driving license is accepted as valid ID, so on the basis that I'm not at the beach in my Speedos and always have my credit cards and phone with me, it's really no hassle. I also really don't see the hassle of wearing a mask in lift queues and on enclosed lifts, compared to the hassle of the resorts being closed.
The UK has some funny ideas. An aversion to carrying ID, clunky paper driving licenses (do they still exist?) and bizarre attitudes to making minimal concessions to get on with life during a pandemic that has cost millions of jobs, money and lives.
The poster who doesn't carry ID, I'm wondering if they don't carry cards either and slap their pockets saying "sorry no cash" when it's their round. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@adithorp, that would not surprise me and would also perhaps be contributing to lowered admissions, etc.
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| colinstone wrote: |
| I made a credit card size copy of passport and carry that in ski wallet. PLus copy of EHIC. If required I can always produce the real things later. |
For anyone with an Irish passport you can get a credit card sized passport card that allows travel in the EU. Not sure if there is something similar in the UK. Just back from New York and every restaurant it was Vaccination Cert plus photo ID to sit down. Driving licence was was fine. I get the sense that we will all need to be carrying photo ID and vaccination certs when travelling in order not to be caught out and to cater for different local rules and interpretations thereof.
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Glad to hear driving license is acceptable. I never carry my passport around on holiday, but mostly have a wallet.
Transferring the license to the wallet containing Euros is easy enough.
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I wonder if they would accept my Bus Pass as photo id? 
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| snoozeboy wrote: |
| James the Last wrote: |
| Judwin wrote: |
| And whilst I do "own" a passport (obvs), I've no intention of carrying it with me on the piste or out to bars/resturaunts. |
Under French law you are required to carry proof of identity with you at all times. Or produce it at a police station within four hours of the demand. So no Frenchman will be surprised to be asked to produce his identity card on the piste. |
Same in Switzerland and I would guess many other countries. however the french also have a credit card sized ID card as well as a passport. In Switzerland, my (cc sized) driving license is accepted as valid ID, so on the basis that I'm not at the beach in my Speedos and always have my credit cards and phone with me, it's really no hassle. I also really don't see the hassle of wearing a mask in lift queues and on enclosed lifts, compared to the hassle of the resorts being closed.
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What happens in CH if you don't have a passport (as in have never applied for one because you don't travel abroad), and don't have a driving license (as in haven't taken/passed your test)? Presumably there must be some kind of Govt issued (photo?) ID card that every citizen/subject is issued with? It's that (photo) ID card we don't have in the UK. Sure we have National Insurance Numbers, NHS numbers, Tax numbers and a myriad of other numbers, but few people know these off the top of their heads.
If the police suspect you of committing an offence in the UK, then you can be arrested/detained if the police officer isn't happy with the name, rank and serial number (actually name, address, DOB and home address) you give them. Section 25 of PACE. Most of the time they will just radio in to check the name & address are valid, but if they have suspicions you're lying to them you'll be off down the nick until they are satisfied you are who you say you are. Happens a lot in those Police Camera Action type programs - usually when someone is fibbing and pretending to be the owner of the car, rather than a "friend/relative" of the owner driving the car with no license, insurance etc.
If the gendarme won't accept a scan/print of your passport, and demands to see the real thing then they must be really suspicious of what you're doing. If you're really up to no good, giving you 4 hours to "get down the station" would just give a criminal a 4 hour head start to do a runner.
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| Timc wrote: |
| I wonder if they would accept my Bus Pass as photo id? |
Easyjet do for internal flights from (say) Bristol to Edinburgh. Not quite the same as a police man agreed, but all the police are really trying to do is establish that the person stood in-front of them have given their real name.
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There’s actually no legal requirement for Swiss nationals in Switzerland to own or carry ID - and I believe foreigners only have to own, not carry.
Do French authorities usually accept driving licences? Germans often don’t but I’d rather not carry my passport either.
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https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/local-laws-and-customs says that ID "can be a passport, a photo driving licence or other documentation provided by a government body" but in the same paragraph, it links to a French page which declares that "For a stay of up to 90 days, the foreigner must present a passport [...]". I imagine a passport would be required by authorities and I hope that venues and lift queues might be content with driving licences. The checking app doesn't say what sort of ID should be used to validate the Covid certificate.
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Never having had the need to change my old paper driving licence I'm beginning to wonder if that's a mistake as I really don't like skiing with my passport
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You know it makes sense.
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@stevew, It's a formality to get a new photo license. Not sure of the current times, but would expect it to be back before Christmas.
Worth applying for if you intend skiing this season.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| LittleRos wrote: |
There’s actually no legal requirement for Swiss nationals in Switzerland to own or carry ID - and I believe foreigners only have to own, not carry.
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I bow to your superior knowledge re the Swiss, but for foreigners I was told by the rozzers that pulled me over and fined me for crossing a solid white line in the road on a bicycle, that it was mandatory for me to carry ID. Whether that was because I am a foreigner, I didn't ask.
Following the Swiss unwritten law, if it isn't mandatory to carry ID, then I guess it must be forbidden.
Anyway, my point was that the Swiss have ID cards (since the 90s apparently) and they carry them, without fuss. They wear masks in lift queues, they get vaxed, they accept vax passports to go to places. And last year they also had a ski season.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Wed 24-11-21 20:22; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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| stevew wrote: |
| Never having had the need to change my old paper driving licence I'm beginning to wonder if that's a mistake as I really don't like skiing with my passport |
Are the old paper licence not invalid nowadays?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Jonny996 wrote: |
| stevew wrote: |
| Never having had the need to change my old paper driving licence I'm beginning to wonder if that's a mistake as I really don't like skiing with my passport |
Are the old paper licence not invalid nowadays? |
Nope - still valid. I don’t have a photo license either.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Jonny996 wrote: |
| stevew wrote: |
| Never having had the need to change my old paper driving licence I'm beginning to wonder if that's a mistake as I really don't like skiing with my passport |
Are the old paper licence not invalid nowadays? |
As long as you've had no need to change it then, no, still legit.
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Still valid as long as you haven’t moved house or had any points since March 2000 & are under 70.
Fair to say that’s a small pool
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Jonny996 wrote: |
Still valid as long as you haven’t moved house or had any points since March 2000 & are under 70.
Fair to say that’s a small pool |
Small pool of 6 million, according to a website I read recently. That's 5,999,999 plus me! 
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| snoozeboy wrote: |
Anyway, my point was that the Swiss have ID cards (since the 90s apparently) and they carry them, without fuss. They wear masks in lift queues, they get vaxed, they accept vax passports to go to places. And last year they also had a ski season. |
It’s true that 'proper' Swissies don’t have to carry ID (though the vast majority do, as it makes life easier). For us immigrants though, it’s dead easy, as everyone has a residence permit with photo and biometric info. It’s credit card sized, so no problem to carry, but again, it’s not compulsory to have it on your person at all times.
For tourists, passport highly recommended. And yes, we had a season last year, but we're straying off topic.
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And back on topic, or mostly anyway,
Pass Sanitaire: checks to be reinforced, test validity down to 24 hours from 72h, "booster" jabs available for everyone (notably, appointment rate for additional jabs doubled in a week, which is excellent).
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If that's the case and they apply it to ski lifts, that's us out for Les Menuires on the 11th. With two 12-15yos, I could put up with a 72 hour testing window but no way daily.
My kids would be well p@ssed off given everything they'd had to put up with over the last two years. It seems chronically unfair that their triple vaccinated (and could prove it) grandparents could go skiing without restrictions, whilst they (at tiny personal risk to covid) cannot.
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Just curious is this something that has been formerly announced, or a prediction of where things are headed?
| under a new name wrote: |
And back on topic, or mostly anyway,
Pass Sanitaire: checks to be reinforced, test validity down to 24 hours from 72h, "booster" jabs available for everyone (notably, appointment rate for additional jabs doubled in a week, which is excellent). |
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@RCM, wot the gov spox said yesterday formal announce today
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@snowhound, blame your government. No-one else in Europe has this issue, afaik …
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You know it makes sense.
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Thank you. I suspect that is going to put a whole lot more British tourists off.72hrs was just about ok, 24 hrs is going to be a total pain.
| under a new name wrote: |
| @RCM, wot the gov spox said yesterday formal announce today |
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@under a new name, I blame them entirely! Although I do question the entire principle behind vaccine passports (given the limited effect vaccines have on transmission), it is each country's right to make its own decisions and at least they are being applied consistently to both nationals and foreign tourists. It is UK's fault for not keeping up.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 25-11-21 10:29; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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The 24hr thing not a done deal yet. Should find out in the press conference at 11:30GMT.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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24 testing would be a bit of a PITA, but something that I would be prepared to do if required. I'll only have 1 kid in that bracket by the time we go skiing.
I'm still holding out hope that even that won't be required if he can access his covid status (as per my lengthly post in the 'taking teenagers skiing' thread).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Timmycb5, 72 hour testing would be 'a bit' of a PITA. Daily would be a huge PITA with the hassle of getting a test each day, getting the pass validated daily .....an hour a day of time minimum. And around 150 euros each too for the week.
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@snowhound, I was staring down the barrel of having to get 3 teens tested every 72 hours. The older 2 will now be fully jabbed before we go, so it's basically the same cost/time but spread out over 6 days.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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if it is 24hr then I am out. You would think the ski resorts would see that this will have massive impact on them as they will not be losing 1 UK teen but the entire UK family, you would think they would do something like a day pass & day test package for say 50E
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We have two teenagers, 13 and 15, and I really hope it will be sufficient for them to do an antigen test every 72 hours. Even if my 15 year old was to get a 2nd dose before we go to France at Christmas, there is currently no way for him to prove that he has had a second dose, as he won't get a QR code.
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Whilst this does not help on the ski lifts, or going into restaurants I was interested to be told by my hotel in Morzine that they would check my child's test negative test on arrival and that was ALL that would be required for the week. That would allow her access to pool, restaurant etc etc. The Grande Pharmacie in Morzine currently charges 25eur for an antigen test - like the other posters I can cope doing that every 72hrs, but every day is another matter.
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Oldest one now fully jabbed but 13 yr old only had one with no prospect of another before feb half term. Daily queuing at a town chemist in Italy for an expensive LFT sounds like a bit of a potential show stopper...:-<
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I am getting slightly lost on this. I think that not 24/72 hr test is required if I have the booster jab and it shows on my NHS app. Is that correct?
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| Motherofthree wrote: |
| We have two teenagers, 13 and 15, and I really hope it will be sufficient for them to do an antigen test every 72 hours. Even if my 15 year old was to get a 2nd dose before we go to France at Christmas, there is currently no way for him to prove that he has had a second dose, as he won't get a QR code. |
In Scotland you can get children's status and a QR code via NHS Inform website, so not sure why it is still not possible in England?
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