 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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skimottaret, I'm on the disabled list at the moment but could possibly do some videoing.
DaveC, I know you'll be ok unless the Griz fails to cough up the goods at all this year (painful memories of the WROD a week before Xmas in Fernie but he sorted us by the following week)
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fatbob, soz didnt know, your knee still playing up? i was joking about the video, with a massive 3 hours of telemarking under my belt might be a wee early for critique... 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| fatbob, soz didnt know, your knee still playing up? i was joking about the video, with a massive 3 hours of telemarking under my belt might be a wee early for critique... |
You'd probably be able to see quite a lot as soon as you get past the Bambi on Ice stage though. I spent a day rebuilding on a bunny slope last year when the main mountain was crapped out by wind and found it was a worthwhile investment of time.
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After almost a year the list of terms is pretty well defined so has been made a new separate thread from the original creation thread to make it easier to use.
Please use this thread for any questions you may have, clarification of definitions that dont make sense and any graffiti or abuse that you may wish to post.
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skimottaret, I'd just like to say well done mate. And add, as only i would, that should some of these terms and phrases be as common as some believe, there'd be no need for them in the glossary. Nice one. 
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Forgot there are a few more terms tbd
Rise Line - the opposite of Fall line. The rise line is an imaginary line running directly uphill from any point on the slope. This term typically used to define a point above a racing gate representing where a turn should begin. How high up the rise line a turn should begin is dependent on slope steepness, conditions and where the next gate is located.
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oh forgot the secondary definition
Rise Line - the point at which fellow snowheads get irritated and lose interest in inane childish arguments and just go back to what they like discussing.
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oh and some more pedandtry...
BOOT SOLE LENGTH - the length of your boot (in millimetres) measured at the bottom of your boot and including the lugs that hold your boot into the binding. This measurement is important and used to determine your DIN setting on your bindings so that you release correctly.
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Rise line - how high up the turn should begin also depends on the ability of the skier, with better skiers turning closer to the gate - I think this comes from "The Athletic Skier".
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Snowboarding should be added as a heretic activity.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Derek Jackson, good point
Rise Line - the opposite of Fall line. The rise line is an imaginary line running directly uphill from any point on the slope. This term typically used to define a point above a racing gate representing where a turn should begin. How high up the rise line a turn should begin is dependent on slope steepness, conditions, where the next gate is located and how skillful the skier is as the faster racer will typically turn closer to the gates.
Any better?
should modify the secondary definition
Rise Line - the height to which snowheads will rise to the Bait when being abused. Also known as the bait line.
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skimottaret, I agree with szk great work.
How about Phantom Foot.
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You know it makes sense.
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demos, i dont board so havent done any boarding terms. go for it if you fancy getting involved 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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skimottaret, I agree with szk great work.
How about Phantom Foot. |
Im not sure SZK is the biggest fan of this exercise but the publicity has got things moving again. 
Phantom foot is a great one. I am assuming you mean injuries or are you referring to Mr. Harbs move? have a go.....
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Poster: A snowHead
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| demos, i dont board so havent done any boarding terms. go for it if you fancy getting involved |
I don't either. Therefore the simple addition to the skiing terminology is needed.
Snowboarding: A heretic activity mostly practised by youth. Includes smoking of a great amount of tobacco and other more interesting stuff as well as sitting in the middle of the piste.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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demos, put that on the "alternative" thread
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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skimottaret, That's my business, PR.
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skimottaret, happy to, but I am away on holiday for three weeks, if someone wants to have a go or I can do it when I get back.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Phantom Foot Injury - A common knee ski injury, termed the "Phantom Foot" due to the leg and foot being rigidly attached to the ski effectivly increasing their overall length. Phantom Foot injuries can occur when the tail of the downhill ski, in combination with the stiff back of the ski boot, acts as a lever to apply a unique combination of twisting and bending loads to the knee and typically results in a torn ACL during relatively slow falls or movements.
Three types of situations typically lead to the Phantom Foot Injuries:
Attempting to get up while still moving after a fall.
Attempting a recovery from an off-balance position.
Attempting to "sit down" after losing control.
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Thu 18-09-08 10:31; edited 1 time in total
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skimottaret, Just reading through some of the glossary I've noticed that it's also lacking terms to do with cross country skiing. Whilst I'm far from an expert, I might be able to contribute a few terms if you wish . It might take me a short while though. There may be others who know more...
Also I'm just wondering if you should distinguish between crampons (that attach to directly to boots and worn without skis) and ski crampons (or couteux/harscheisen). Not that I've done ski mountaineering but I could imagine those that do might use both.
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skimottaret, try "touring" skis....
I understand the term very differently to the way use it.... My friends stick me on touring gear and it is XC gear - not traditional or skating skis... but not as heavy as tele skis.... A light touring set up is light for traveling a long distance and climbing with - but they will have metal edges so assist hold ... binding 3-pin or more often Nordic Norm IIRC ..... commonly they are patterned base (for climbing undulating terrain) and you fit skins for steeper climbs....
Alpine touring is another critter again (equiv to Randonnee = French for can't tele)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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peura,
I was told the concept is .... skate step 1) arms go forward.... skate step 2) pole with both hands - so both arms go back....
So the arms go back and forward - one full cycle to each TWO skate steps...
skate steps - just like alpine ones... push and glide bringing foot back under body
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You know it makes sense.
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little tiger, my impression is that they use different ratios of arm push to leg kicks and other subtle differences depending on the nature of the terrain. I have seen these called "gears" but obviously that's only a metaphor.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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peura, could be.... what I wrote was just the instructions they gave me when they sent me off....(they know I can alpine ski).... I've never managed to be in right place at right time for a lesson (stupid that.... I have a tele/bc examiner wants to teach me and I keep not working out the logistics).... I'm going to have to try to be in USA at same time as one of them is around - seems my best bet as they don't spend much time with groups there....
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little tiger, were you "ski touring" or XC skiing at that time? From my limited knowledge I thought that "ski tourers" used a form of diagonal striding, but perhaps without a glide. If you've got a free heel, I'd have thought trying to skate would be a bit  .
This http://www.roberts-1.com/xcski/skate/motion/index.htm provides some help on the skating.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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peura, yep and the time stops when you finish the beer - not when you cross the line... so a real contender has to be able to ski fast and drink fast...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skimottaret, excellent glossary list - thanks
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little tiger, I don't think I'd be any good at that sort of race. No good at doing either fast  .
Anyway are the definitions any good anyone?
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peura, they look fine, i'm wondering whether or not to stick them all under a section on cross country skiing or to spread them out alphabetically... not sure which would be more useful
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I'll place some jumbled thoughts down and let you turn them into something sensible
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thanks  as ive never been on cross country skis not sure i can help there... any other XC skiers in the house?
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Erm.... can I ask what 'stoke' means please?
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that won't have helped with the technique 
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