Watched him last night on ski sunday and loved his carved skid coming into some of the gates. I'm sure there is a technical term for it that someone here can enlighten me on. In very simplistic terms it kind of looked like a hockey stop at mach 10 mid carve to scrub speed coming into a gate.
It's called a 'Stivot' turn. A pivoted skid on edge....sort of. Used more this year because of the longer ski lengths.
Have met Shred a couple of times and he's a top bloke imho.... very down to earth.
As for the position.... instead of just angulating using pressure control and steering, I believe there is an element of downward pressure from the inner thigh.... pushing downward into the ice. Heard some racers talking about it the other day. Who knows... it certainly makes him the best by far.
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Yes pretty much agree although without Ligety America would have been even further down the results table than Austria without Hirscher.
Not necessarily on Golds. Austria may not have one either of their two golds without Hirscher whereas the US would have tallied one from Shiffrin.
The results are pretty much reflective of the World Cup Season so far. The US have won 15 world cup races from 5 different skiers. Austria have won 9 world cup races from 4 different skiers. I don't think Austria should whinge too much. The expected home advantage didn't really materialise into more golds than the season's form guide may have indicated but it's hardly a shameful result. They were favoured in two events coming into the event, the team and the men's slalom. They won both. They also picked up several minor medals as expected. If there's any team that's in crisis mode right now it's Switzerland.
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IrishEskimo,
Reckon Austria would have would the team event without Hirscher but yes one Silver for the Swiss is a very bad result for them.
If there's any team that's in crisis mode right now it's Switzerland.
With the French pinching themselves wondering how they've done so well?
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Austria is not in as much s**t as Switzerland is, not by a country mile. Apart from Lara Gut's medal, they missed out on everything, the men scoring a nice consistent 0 as they have been doing in the World Cup as well.
The Austrian programme has lots of good youngsters fighting to get into the squads, it will bounce back. Once Vonn (if she makes it back) and Ligety go, all the US have on offer is Schiffrin.
There are always going to be transition years when one or another of the Alpine nations does badly. The French have gone through it repeatedly and always come back. I hope the Swiss sort out whatever is causing their drought and the Austrians need to get rid of the current ÖSV president incumbent. He is a bloody embarrassment to everyone, possibly excuseable if he is proved to be suffering from dementia. But he has to go and quickly!
I think Austria is just starving for more star power and right now all of the focus is being channeled on Hirscher (especially with Schild's ongoing injury difficulties). In the past they've typically had two, three, or even four people to soak that up. Anna Fenninger flirts with being the IT girl on the women's side but she's not really what you call a banker in any event even though she's fairly steady and always a medal threat.
Austria definitely needs to improve in speed, particularly downhill. I think the struggles of Elisabeth Görgl mean that for now only Fenninger in the Super G is much of a consistent threat for the women. The men have Reichelt and Mayer that can step on the podium on any given day in the Super G but are hardly star material for the moment though Mayer may change that at some point. But presently DH looks bleak for both men and women. If they had been better in the speed in Schladming they may have channeled it into momentum rather than a creeping sense of doom whilst continuing to pile the pressure onto poor Marcel as the salvager at the end of the Championships. But the truth is Austria did well even if it would have liked a few more skiers to reach the top of the podium.
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What about Klaus Kröll who won the DH last year, currently 3rd in the DH cup standings and was almost in the medals (4th)?
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Forgot about him. Probably because he seems to be slipping in form. He has a 2nd and a tie for third this year on the WC circuit. Compared to three wins and several podiums last year. And world champion in SG the year before. If he can rediscover similar form again it would certainly help.
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What about Klaus Kröll who won the DH last year, currently 3rd in the DH cup standings and was almost in the medals (4th)?
He was 1.65sec behind only medal that counts So being 4th is pretty much same as being 15th or going out. For Austrians, especially on home WCH, only gold counted in DH. Even though after first week, they changed their opinion, and 6 golds from team event was more important then anything
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primoz,
We are talking about who has the best chances next time round. Sometimes the older members of the team find very good form again (e.g. Cuche and Matt) Kröll won the DH trophy last year, is third in the DH Table at the moment and came 4th in the World Champs. It's who puts the best performance in on the day, hence the reason many no-names pick up medals (which I like). On that basis I'd say Kröll has more chance than most. Possibly more than Fenniger (who is 5th in the women's DH table) although I must admit he doesn't look anywhere near as good as Anna. Zettel too recieved less attention than Fenniger although her chances were probably greater (Second in the Slalom cup standings to Maze).
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On that basis I'd say Kröll has more chance than most. Possibly more than Fenniger (who is 5th in the women's DH table) although I must admit he doesn't look anywhere near as good as Anna. Zettel too recieved less attention than Fenniger although her chances were probably greater (Second in the Slalom cup standings to Maze).
Scratching my head here wondering how you could think Kröll's medal chances were greater than AF's in Schladming. Fenninger is more of a Super G/Giant Slalom skier so the odd good result for Anna in Downhill is really a bonus. I disagree that Kröll's chances to medal were greater given that Fenninger actually raced in four events to his one. Both were defending world champions heading into Schladming but only one was really skiing like it. Fenninger has been much better this year than Kröll. She is currently in 4th place in the overall and probably will finish in the top 3 by year's end after Vonn's injury. He is in 15th place in the men's overall with about half the points. Kröll has one silver and one tie for bronze this year on the FIS. Both in the downhill. Fenninger has one gold, two silvers, and three bronzes from three events. So 6 podiums including one victory (in GS). Zettel is just behind Fenninger in the overall but Anna had been skiing much better than Zettel heading into the championships. I'm sure Fenninger's looks help but as of now the results indicate that she's been the best Austrian female this season. She is much more consistent than Kröll and the odds of her securing a medal were certainly greater than his based on recent form and the fact that she's a multi-event threat.
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In response to your comment about the Austrian team ....
IrishEskimo wrote:
But presently DH looks bleak for both men and women.
When comparing Krölll and Fenniger I was talking specifically about their DH chances.
Zettel is currently 2nd in the GS Cup standings (not SL as I posted earlier ) and 3rd in the Combined, less points overall but in fewer disciplines. Fair point about Fenniger, she has been on much better form than Zettel recently.
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I see the Swiss trainer was sacked .....
Yep sadly the problem the Swiss have had this year is two big injuries the loss of Cuche and the Iceman not performing.
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DB wrote:
In response to your comment about the Austrian team ....
IrishEskimo wrote:
But presently DH looks bleak for both men and women.
When comparing Krölll and Fenniger I was talking specifically about their DH chances.
Zettel is currently 2nd in the GS Cup standings (not SL as I posted earlier ) and 3rd in the Combined, less points overall but in fewer disciplines. Fair point about Fenniger, she has been on much better form than Zettel recently.
You mentioned how Fenninger receives more attention. But really, even if Zettel and Kröll had a better chance in one specific event, Anna had a better chance of medaling in Schladming because she has more opportunities (and thus better odds). She's also secured more FIS points and more podiums than either this year so this season she has been the better skier. So she may receive additional attention because of her good looks but really on the basis of results it is also completely merited.
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IrishEskimo,
Fenniger v Kröll - as said before I was talking about downhill. Fenniger was hyped at least as much as Kröll although she only had an outsiders chance. Kröll was a real contender (4th in the actual event, only 0.16 off first pace yesterday)
Zettel v Fenniger - both had chances in 3 events. If Vonn hadn't of injured herself Fenniger's chances would have been much lower and it's possible she wouldn't have brought back the bronze. Zettel finished just behind Fenninger in that event and also achieved two top ten places in her other two events (event though she came down with an illness and wasn't 100%). Again Fenniger was hyped as if her chances were 20 times greater than Zettel.
I suspect Austria is hungry for a female skier who can finally beat the international competition (Vonn, Maze, Mancuso etc) both on the snow and in a bikini.
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I really like him. Doesn't take himself to seriously and has good sense of humour. Take a look at this clip when he and Svindall and James Hiem have a mess about.
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Brilliant! Amazing angles and such dynamic transitions. Love watching him ski.
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Jeeeeeez Rob, why don't you and Ted get a room?!
Because if you don't, I probably will
Good find, Bode.
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I was just talking with one of coaches last weekend in Garmisch, and I was thinking he was joking when said you need to set GS to 32-35m, if you even want to even come down without pushing.... after seeing this video it really looks like he wasn't joking at all...
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Great vid and that pitch change at 1m in and 2.45 looked quite...er...challenging
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3 gates of a bit steeper terrain and everything else perfectly flat, even without bumps, or rolls, is not really all that challenging Especially when considering this will be Olympic GS course and not some low level FIS race
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primoz wrote:
3 gates of a bit steeper terrain and everything else perfectly flat, even without bumps, or rolls, is not really all that challenging Especially when considering this will be Olympic GS course and not some low level FIS race
That GS course looks rather narrow in place, not much room for error and distinct lack of white stuff off the piste and for that matter netting near the trees. Apart from that great skiing to watch.
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So being 4th is pretty much same as being 15th or going out. For Austrians, especially on home WCH, only gold counted in DH. Even though after first week, they changed their opinion, and 6 golds 
from team event was more important then anything 
) and 3rd in the Combined, less points overall but in fewer disciplines. Fair point about Fenniger, she has been on much better form than Zettel recently.
at Ted pulling his pants down
