She's got a sort of adapted jump turn that does not rely on the ski edging but rather relies on the lack of front and back ski weight to enable her to 'force' the ski's round much the same way that a snow boarder that's not edging relies on the board following the direction of their shoulders. It's freaking ugly - trust me (there's a bit of a stem christie turn in there somewhere as well). When she has longer ski's, getting the mass moving for the turn proves more difficult since she has to fight the inertia rather than letting the ski do the work. It's not a 'blade' turn - I know what you mean about that (hate that feeling myself) but it's not that sudden and they rely on edging more. Like the skier in the video she's not really rising and falling much but relying on weight shift and kicking the ski's round whilst basically staying more or less upright. Needless to say it don't really fly when the speed mounts so she keeps the kph down and trundles back and foward across the slope. On the occasion of her facing the fall line her head basically remains totally level with minimal knee flex or hip articulation.
Since her primary concern is not to fall over she refuses to adapt or take any classes. I have tried to train her out of it for years and given up.
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Serriadh wrote:
fatbob wrote:
There's more progressive US ski schools offering rocker specific lessons
There's a need for rocker specific ski lessons?
Lesson 1 takes place on snowblades to help learn how not to wheelie and fall on your @rse
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clarky999 wrote:
There's been a trend for longer skis for probably the last 5 years already!
Having recently cleared a 190cm touring ski and a 210cm GS ski from the attic I for one won't be heading back up the numbers any time soon.
The trend for longer skis has been helped by rocker, I just bought some 195 powder skis, If they were fully cambered they would be tough to ski at the speeds that I ski at in Niseko, but given that only 2/3rds of them are going to be on the ground most of the time, I'm thinking they should be fine. The 190 GS skis that I have are frankly a pain to ski in the course, much prefer the 175, 17m cheater skis that I teach on.
But as for race technology filtering down, I can't see it happening too much, yeah some wannabes (me) will always buy the latest race gear, but realistically, for a recreational skier to ski on anything approaching a WC GS ski would be very unpleasant for them, it won't catch on.
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jimmer wrote:
The trend for longer skis has been helped by rocker, I just bought some 195 powder skis, If they were fully cambered they would be tough to ski at the speeds that I ski at in Niseko, but given that only 2/3rds of them are going to be on the ground most of the time, I'm thinking they should be fine.
But as for race technology filtering down, I can't see it happening too much, yeah some wannabes (me) will always buy the latest race gear, but realistically, for a recreational skier to ski on anything approaching a WC GS ski would be very unpleasant for them, it won't catch on.
Race skis have also not been 'cool' for quite some time. The marketing and fashion is all about park, pow, big mountain regardless of what joe bloggs actually skis.
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Stivoting ?? That's just an emergency stop (in order to make the turn) in disguise
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Mike Pow, most of the Scandis couldn't keep up when I was on 185s, they have no chance with 195s
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Interesting what TL had to say about the new ski lengths today...which makes sense as it was really soft when i was out in Coronet...
The burning question all summer has been how to adapt to the newly mandated ski dimensions, particularly in GS where the changes are most drastic.
“I got a good jump on it and I've had great skis from Head,” says Ligety. “It takes a lot of work and time, but I'm happy with where I am right now. I think softer snow is really where the new skis will make a bigger difference. It is basically impossible to ski cleanly on (them) when it's soft, so hopefully we'll see a concerted effort to prepare the slopes well, inject them, use the proper amount of salt and prepare the courses well... otherwise it could be difficult next year.”
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Nickski wrote:
Stivoting ?? That's just an emergency stop (in order to make the turn) in disguise
Yeah, unsure of who came up with the term 'stivoting' but 'skivoting' would be more appropriate.
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jimmer wrote:
Mike Pow, most of the Scandis couldn't keep up when I was on 185s, they have no chance with 195s
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If it helps racers go faster then they'll carry on whether it looks pretty or not.
For recreational skiers it's good to be able to carve turns and skid turns - different tools for different terrain - so I can't see what the problem is. If you have the skill to control the skid and carving elements to the degree that these racers do then you're doing well. If you only have one turn in your toolbox you're not going to get very far.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
I don't think there is a problem perse with Stivoting...it's more to do with why the Racers are having to do it.
The FIS have put in new rules re ski racing, to slow things down and create less 'G' forces on the body...apparantly.
They want to reduce injuries, which apparantly are occuring in Junior skiers, where compression of the joints through those forces are occuring.
Who knows....
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Its nothing new and I really don't think its a side cut issue. Modern race snowboards have variable side cuts but racers still have to do this (some people call it slarving) turn. Racing is about speed not looking pretty. Check out the video, not skiing but it explains the process pretty well.
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