+2, on ntns myself, with boots every bit as big and burly as my previous alpine boots. 75mm can be big and powerful too, thats where i started - again big boots, active bindings (my need for big/stiff/powerful is slighly more driven by mass than ability or style
equipment development and style/technique driven by equipment development has always happened, any self-confessed "purist" aint really purist at all (ok maybe more pure than me!). ^I do like the young uns rockin the park with their lurks though!
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Me too, my NTNs are so easy I can teach alpine beginners no probs in my tele gear! Was trying the heals both being elevated at point of parallel during transition.....Ate snow lots and crashed my brains out. I found it very tough to achieve, even with fluid transition and no obvious pause at parallel. Something wrong somewhere and will try again tomorrow. Definitely in numpty tele team today
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summer, try focussing on pulling the lead foot forwards whilst pressing down on it. It was described to me as you trying to scribe an arc backwards with the front ski.
The effect is that you keep (more) pressure through the skis at transition and your heels will stay up naturally.
Cheers will give that ago and think I need to find a course too!!!! I can see the logic to the reasoning, it's just the whole making it happen without too many crashes! Let you know how it goes today as probably last tele day for a while
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Perfect merci Flying Stantoni, the pulling lead foot through and making an arc seemed to do the trick! Certainly works well on pistes where I could see what I was skiing on and over!!!
Give that a miss...telemark is giving me enough to think about without both feet strapped to a plank facing forwards!!!
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Perfect merci Flying Stantoni, the pulling lead foot through and making an arc seemed to do the trick! Certainly works well on pistes where I could see what I was skiing on and over!!!
In all seriousness, I've thought about buying a monoski just for the craic. Someone was selling two on ebay a while ago for about £60 that I should have gone for...
barry, that is simply fantastic. And I just happen to have a spare pair of NTN bindings.
"All" I need now is a board...
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You will need a pastel coloured combi before you can dare go out on the piste with a monoski, plus old school glasses and matching headband
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summer, and what makes you think that I'll have problems with that list...?
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Update:
ebay has now produced some UK size 6 T2Xs (women's) they arrived today- just under a hundred quid, the telesaurus from last year are too small! (but I still have an 8 and a 3 year old to grow into them).
Matt from telemark skiing-uk has I hope got his drill out as I type and is putting the heel pieces of some small G3 targas into some new 138cm B3s. Nice set up - but considerably more than the "tele gear for kids for less than a hundred quid" I'd hoped for (mind you he's probably worth it!).
So now I need to decide whether to just take his tele gear with us this half term- I think so- tele or die!!!!!!!!!!
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fatbob wrote:
Just to be pedantic you have to be fairly special to lead change without going through parallel momentarily?
. . . That's what I thought . . . until I twigged the concept of constant weighting change between skis and staying on the balls of the feet.
Now I'm always adjusting pressure through the carve, treating the two skis as essentially a single edge. Agulation gives me edge grip but fore/aft pressure gives me bounce for a fast lede change. For me it's just snowboarding with really sore quads . . . old and heavy
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FlyingStantoni, barry, My teleboard will be with me at the EOSB if you wish to have some fun.
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We depart this Sunday.
New tel kit for ed junior (and junior 2 and 3 in turn) now all complete.
Boots- Scarpa T2x W size 6
Skis Rossignol B3 junior 138
Bindings G3 Targa- women's version- blue springs.....
Allen and Mikes Really Cool Telemark tips read and inwardly digetsed by son- we don't have flash cards but I do test him at random moments;
'where should your flashlight be?' .....
'how do you bend over when wearing a miniskirt- and why is this relevant to telemarking?'
11) And more lead change traverses - building quickness
12) Stick is all together:
- set off in telemark "position"
- monomark turn across fall line (edge change)
- lead change down / into fall line
...and you're there.
If you've got mixed terrain (i.e. shallow pitch, steep pitch), then use the steeper pitches for traverse drills.
I like this approach because it teaches edge change before lead change from the "off". It also gives people a nice lazy way of telemarking - i.e. parallel into fall line, telemark, parallel into fall line, telemark.
Edited to better explain step 12. Which needs a diagram really...
Thanks for all the detailed and carefully though out advice- the little blighter just put his skis on (actually the hardest bit for him) ....then ripped it up.
Day 1 on piste blues and reds.
Day two off piste- steep + crust +some cut up crud, fast on reds, fastish on blacks and moderate bumps.
Some very minor falls, no aches.
back bottom.
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Not stupid at all. I suggest you have a look at this link. http://www.awsa.org.uk/telemark/events/ As this is both the Army Telemark Championships and the British Open, as it says on the page, the event is open to all. I was there this year (with around 150 others) and it is tremendous value. In the first week there is daily tuition follwed by a Selection Race. I would suggest that youngster will then race in the "Development Races." Great group of people with families and kids. Were I not otherwise "employed" next winter I would be taking my kids too. Two weeks of Telemarking, tution, race fees, lift passes and Half Board for 760 Pounds (plus transport!), you're not going to beat that. See you there in 2015?
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ed123 wrote:
...the little blighter just put his skis on (actually the hardest bit for him)...back bottom.
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barry, quality vid. They make it look so easy!
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ed123, looks a big success
(The first day I tele'd on 75mm, more time was spent trying to get skis on tha actually skiing . He might be trying to clamp the heel throw over the highest lip on the boot, it should go one below - in the obvious groove)
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Btw, easy next step for him is to think about separating thighs ie his thighs remain parallel at the moment, get them scissoring more (not explaining well but think parallel thighs = bad)
much better than I looked first time though (that's annoying!)
Did they like it?
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thanks Barry, he is having a great time. Yeserday did some monster crud- he fell over a few times, then some really quite steep powder (about 40degrees) no falls, then some steepish moguls- ragdolled down- no injuries i'm glad o say.
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Update from this year. Now 3 weeks on tele gear for my now 12 yr old. Very fast on pisted blues with angulation and smooth telemark turns. Steeper stuff and bumps skied no problems parallel and powder still tricky. Will post some pictures.
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Interesting to hear the updates on your boys progression as my 13 old wants to take it up and this is pushing me to get him set up
for our trip next month. Will let you know ... .
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another update. 2 weeks in Tignes are coming to an end. At the start of week 1 we had some good fast telemarking on easy blues and then a lot of parallel. Mid week though there was a change. He's now tele'd down Trolles, Face, Sache with tele turns more or less top to bottom and has managed Paquarettes and Silence in hard icy conditions (Paquarettes was possibly a mistae but he was fine).
barry, in fast cross-under Lede changes short carving turns you do stay low. In fact in the transition you can be lower than in the turn itself if charging very hard.
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Some short videos of the whippersnapper to date.
Things really clicked the other week. He also does bumps- quite fast. Met a few other granola eating weirdos in Tignes and generally had a ball. Only problem is I can't quite keep up. I'm not sure if that is because he is just better than me or because as an inexperienced your he is trying to find out just where the max is. In my world the max is just before where you dislocate your shoulder….Or then again I was on some rather soft skis, maybe I need some new ones??
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ed123, that all looks great. No problem starting 'em young. I see lots of very small kids on XC skis and there are regularly race meetings for kids, too - the ease with which they charge around makes me green with envy.
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barry wrote:
FlyingStantoni, ^ 5, 6 and 7, specifically the "stand tall" parts - the kool kids aint standing too tall these days it seems, been trying this recently (ie staying relatively crouched through the "transition", and it feels good if maybe not technically or classically correct(?)
I see the technique difference but isn't that just someone epic on twintips?
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Hey y'all I have no clue how old this thread is, but it is definitely possible. I self taught myself how to telemark when I was 11 and now I've been doing it for 8 years. I showed up at the hill and just practiced practiced practiced. It definitely was not the most efficient way to learn (took me two years to efficiently link turns) but now I shred the steps and will never lock my heel down again! Depending on how friendly your mountain is, if youre a little tyk on tele you will deffinitly attract a lot of attention, through this I was able to gain knowledge and experience through other telemark skiers who would give me tips. Dosnt matter if your turn sucks, anyone on telemark loves to see youth get into the sport! #spreadtelemark
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Parallel turn with the objective of dropping into telemark 
