 Poster: A snowHead
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| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| James the Last, are you serious? both sides will get equal contact - the inside becomes the outside on the next turn |
Only if your weight is evenly spread between the two skis. On the assumption that wear goes as the square of the weight, and on the assumption that you have a weight ratio of 2:1 between your legs, the inside edges will blunt at four times the rate of the outside ones. My suspicion is that the difference is even greater.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| James the Last wrote: |
| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| James the Last, are you serious? both sides will get equal contact - the inside becomes the outside on the next turn |
Only if your weight is evenly spread between the two skis. On the assumption that wear goes as the square of the weight, and on the assumption that you have a weight ratio of 2:1 between your legs, the inside edges will blunt at four times the rate of the outside ones. My suspicion is that the difference is even greater. |
I get the theory here, but actually, on the hire skis I was using at the weekend I don't think there was any difference at all 
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On the Sea to Sky highway, winding our way up to WB, and my mate, who's on his first ever trip is quizzing the rep about the many bars and clubs.
"What's the dress code?" He asks.
"Warm." She says.
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both sides will get equal contact - the inside becomes the outside on the next turn
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but the inside edge of the downhill ski gets way more loading thru'the turn, so will wear more...
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James the Last, gra, Yeah, I changed my mind after heidiky explained
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So, a good ski rotation system is key to edge ware equalisation. Left foot one day right foot the next. Cool now my edges will last 
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When I first started skiing I borrowed my mothers old skis and played about in the field behind the house... ski down walk up...
I signed up to get some leasons at school aged 8....
The PE teacher was trying to put me in the correct class so...
question number one: have you ever skied before?
answer: yes
Question number 2: can you go up tows?
I thought he was asking me if "I could go up toes" ie some sort of jump turn 
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| DB wrote: |
| "How do I know which ski is for the left and right foot?" |
A perfectly sensible question if you are using asymmetrical skis like ScottyBob's Bobtail design skis.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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My thoughts on starting this thread were triggered by questions to do with hosting/guiding guests on-piste (which I've worked a couple of seasons doing). It's not aimed at poking fun at beginners but people who should know better (Although some statements/questions defy logic, even from a beginners standpoint).
This exchange took place before taking a group of "ski confidently on reds".
Guest: Will you be taking us off-piste?
Me: No. I'm not qualified or insured to take you off-piste.
Guest: Can we go off-piste?
Me: Sure, if you've got the right insurance.
Guest: What do you mean? Like life insurance.
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You know it makes sense.
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Alternatively it could well be stupid answer:
Stranger to me: Excuse me, can you tell me where this lift goes
Me to stranger: Up
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jzBun, perhaps he was making a joke? I laughed...
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Poster: A snowHead
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red 27, I nearly wet myself laughing but no, he wasn't joking.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nothing to do with the thread subject, but the downhill-ski-first thing gets complicated on steep slopes: you have to place the first ski (or both if you aren't holding one) on the uphill side and cross your downhill foot over.
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"clipping into closed bindings"
Is actually perfectly possible on every pair of skis I've ever had - it never seems to make any difference to me. Though certainly mechanical sympathy indicates one should open them.
Definitely makes sense to put skis on the same feet every time, then you know you've got a fresh pair of edges if you need them.
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| James the Last wrote: |
Is actually perfectly possible on every pair of skis I've ever had . |
How? If the rear binding remains in the closed position it isn't possible. I think you mean if the rear binding released (rather than the front, sideways-releasing one).
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| I think you mean... |
What makes you think you know what I mean. Try it! It is perfectly possible with the rear binding in the closed position.
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I have tried, by accident, quite a number of times. Failed, felt stupid, reset them.
Video proof or it didn't happen.
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| James the Last wrote: |
| Definitely makes sense to put skis on the same feet every time, then you know you've got a fresh pair of edges if you need them. |
What a great point & I have never made that connection !!
My (symmetrical) piste skis were prestickered L & R by Conrad Sports & I have always clipped into them like that. After over 100 days on them, the underfoot war damage is significantly more obvious on their inside edges despite my quite rigorous and regular attention with edging tools.
It's now logged in my brain. Thanks. 
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| James the Last wrote: |
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What makes you think you know what I mean. Try it! It is perfectly possible with the rear binding in the closed position. |
Just tried it on some Fischer x14's and it doesn't work (unsurprisingly), are you sure your bindings are set up correctly re size and forward pressure adjustment?
My feeling is if you could get get your boot in in this position you could just as easily step out
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You learn something new every day! Never thought of "preserving a decent set of edges" that way. Do many people do that? Something for next season, maybe.
However, I absolutely don't buy stepping into closed bindings.
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Is there anywhere a richer mine of information than snowHeads? Brilliant. Thank you, James the Last! 
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You know it makes sense.
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Friend to me (In first restaurant in Alpe d'Huez):
"What's the French for omelette ?"
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I think Swirly posted this here some time ago. We were both there when it happened:
Verbier, Easter weekend.
Guy "We were skiing this amazing powder in a nature reserve and saw these Chamonix."
Girl with annoying voice: "What are Chamonix?"
Guy "I think they're those goat things."
Girl "Oh so that's what Chamonix means, never knew that"
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Poster: A snowHead
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Last time I posted that helpful hint I was laughed at for skiing like a Haggis, always going round a mountain clockwise...
betterinblack, always seem fine. Rental skis of course.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Despite previously never being able to get my boot into a closed binding I thought I should check....
No, it isn't possible. Neither my touring bindings or my old normal ones. Not sure how you can manage it .... Very strange, it shouldn't be possible.
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snowball, if it was possible, I'd be straight down to the shop to get it fixed. No way would I ski in them.
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Push heel backwards at 30 degree angle and attempt to hook under maybe ? Can't try it myself as no skis / boots here.
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Just putting skis into bindings in a perfectly normal fashion, toes in first, then heels at back, but without having to open them.
I take the comments of the assembled company and if it ever happens again I shall take the skis back.
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And now, back to the stupid questions.....
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Guest: "Which way do I go when I get off the chairlift?"
Me: "Go left off the chair. There's only one piste down from that chair"
Guest: "So which way is that?"
Me: "Errm, down".
I'm not a rep but friends, that I've skied with for years, have asked me this! Same friends can find their way round the mountain but once you are the person telling them which way to go they just turn off their brains.
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Definatley possible to step into closed bindings... bit of brute force and a crappy rental binding and you're in!
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This is quite probably the best argument I have heard yet for owning one's own skis.
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| heidiky wrote: |
| bit of brute force and a crappy rental binding and you're in! |
...or out! 
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