 Poster: A snowHead
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Would it help to have some video of the type of drills people would be doing in the different coaching clinics
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Iski, perhaps, but we tend not to video drills for reviewing with people as the drills themselves arent the outcome we care about but rather tape short medium or big turns before and after doing drills to highlight what the drills did or didnt do for people... there are million drills (fastman has 6 DVD's worth of em !! )
New gen do a what level am i type of video but they use an instructor pretending, if we have time we may compile a "typical" set of level x, y and Z clients making turns... but everyone has different strenghts and weaknesses, as most people will say i can do some of level x and some of level Y...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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skimottaret,
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but everyone has different strenghts and weaknesses, as most people will say i can do some of level x and some of level Y...
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Reading the comments exactly the same applies to your descrptions, there are a lot of people saying I am at level x in some parts of the description and level y at others.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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skimottaret,
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we tend not to video drills
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thank heavens for small mercies. 
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T Bar, hence the difficulty... 
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I think the level descriptions are the best I've seen....and I've seen loads this year. But the weeks experience can be misguiding....it's the quality of the experience, rather than quantity that is important IMHO.
I'm exactly a 6, even though my ego thinks I'm a 7...and there remains the problem - how one perceives oneself CAN be different to the instructor's perception.
The video examples idea is quite good.
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ALQ, I'm quite sure a 6 is a fine level to be at, in fact I'm quite pleased to be a 6 - I never ever thought to get off level 1 no more than a few years back. 
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Civilised answers? What's got into everyone? You're giving skimottaret and rob@rar far too easy a time of it if you ask me 
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Thanks for posting that. It's my favourite thread of all time!
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slikedges, I've got to be nice bearing in mind I finally get to go and see them in a couple of weeks. I don't want to give them any excuse to get me doing evil difficult things.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Megamum, They don't need an excuse 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Megamum,
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I don't want to give them any excuse to get me doing evil difficult things.
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Dream on.
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JONG, hope TGR don't get wind of this. Good , you will know yourself or learner surely? To many beginners calling themselves intermediate, not learning. The instructors on the forum must spend so much time with people who confuse getting down a red/black with true ability. Me included. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Iski, anyone would think we'd had some bad experiences.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'll probably regret asking this question, but what is 'JONG'?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I did not mean to be rude, just bored with people who cannot ski, but think they are good. Be real accept your ability and enjoy or learn and train. I play golf every week , it is not paying my mortgage so therefore not an expert, go skiing 4 times and everyone thinks they are great?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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tiffin, ah, thank you. 
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lightningdan, oh you kill joy!
however the SBS is the standard by which all shall be judged.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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As someone, think it was arno said, not sure what trying out snowboarding etc has to do with it.
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If you are reading levels 10 or 11 from an instructor point of view, the snowboarding and other stuff are important for getting your qualifications.
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Megamum, sorry, when people start discussions about skiing levels round here, it's not just a tradition but the gawdam law to give them a hard time
lightningdan, keep up the good work
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skimottaret, Been said a zillion times before ... but however many 'grades' you give it the last two (12 & 13 in your case) covers at least twenty-fold the number of grades preceding them. They are all 'Marketing Hype' , nothing wrong with that as we all enjoy pigeon-holing ourselves.
Yes, you are right. Those in the last two categories can not be arsed to respond --- and the more levels between 1 & 11 (or 1 to 2!!) catalyses us poor punters to strive for more!
Yes .. I am a cynic!
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Agenterre,
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catalyses us poor punters to strive for more
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That's a very good point. For those of us that don't want to go through the rigmaroles of BASI, these levels can act as a useful incentive to improve. I don't really know what I am now, probably a low 8, but am - I hope realistically - aspiring to 9 and less realistically to 10 (but no higher.)
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You forgot
14: You have been skiing for at least ten years and have been down every major run on four continents. You have employed the best instructors the world can provide and yet you find that none of them has been able to bring you to quite the level of finesse you desire. This is because you are a terrible skier who will never actually do what the instructor tells you and honest to god we wonder how you manged to get up the steps to get in here because you NEVER BEND YOUR KNEES!!!
You were promoted through the grading systems of other ski schools so that the intructors could get you the heck out of their classes in case whatever you have is catching.
If we take your money you will spend your time arguing with the instructors and making excuses for not doing the drills so that you go away skiing as you did before, blundering to and fro like some kind of malfunctioning Dalek who should be shot and chucked down a crevasse.
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I know you can't really tell people this, but don't you just want to sometimes ?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I'd be very happy to put myself in level 5, got me down to a tee.
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hmm "malfunctioning Dalek" sounds like a worthy addition to the list 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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To turn things around a little, where would you put your clients on the scale?
For example, I have attended 3 of your clinics but you have never seen me ski in the real world. So if you can remember any of my skiing where would you place me.
I invite anyone else whom I have attended clinics with to also grade me, I'll try not to be too upset
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Poster: A snowHead
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tiffin, To turn things round even more I asked Rob where he put himself on his scale. After careful thought he told me. I'll leave it to Rob to decide whether he weants to share his answer with the world.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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tiffin, I've just had a quick look at some video of you and I'd say you're a L6 on our scale.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Spud9, Maybe we should grade them? I'll wait till after the 15th though
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rob@rar, yeah thats about what I thought. Not so bad with only 2 weeks under my belt.
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Thu 4-11-10 10:37; edited 1 time in total
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| I'll leave it to Rob to decide whether he weants to share his answer with the world. |
After a bit more thought I'd say 11 when I'm skiing well (although I struggle to make fat skis do good things on piste ), 10 if I'm having an off day.
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| rob@rar, yeah thats about what I thought. |
Phew...
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tiffin, OK. I'm there for the clinic on 15th as well. It's probably best to be circumspect until after the skiing's finished. The topic of the day 'Balance' gives RobnScott plenty of opportunities for punishment drills. (Backwards, eyes closed, on one ski, no poles and outside edge turns all at the same time, maybe  )
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| (Backwards, eyes closed, on one ski, no poles and outside edge turns all at the same time, maybe ) |
Haven't written the lesson plan yet, but top marks that's a cracking good start...
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rob@rar, I knew you'd say that. Why not add unclipped boots to the drill as well.
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Spud9, it gets better and better...
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