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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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mark_s, we got to talking about grammar because the OP was rash enough to ask whether the apostrophe was in the right place. A brave move! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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anyway, as this thread proves, apostrophes are a more interesting topic than bum bags. Nobody yet wrote a best seller about bum bags.
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Megamum,
IMV the plural of James would be Jameses (don't use an apostraphe to pluralise) so it would be "the Jameses' Company".
Now, getting back to bumbags....I fear everything about me is deeply unstylish and unfashionable  ... and I wear a bumbag whilst skiing (for similar reasons as outlined by Pam W). I therefore conclude that the bumbag has no place in the armoury (or armouries) of the stylish skier (or skiers).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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pam w, only because stoatsbrother said "next question".
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My bum bag is in the back of the cupboard with my 'ski sling' in it 
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Of course there is no truth to the rumor that I was seen to wear a bum bag on the journeys to and from VT this yearand that it was one I bought on purpose for the journey. No truth whatsoever!! 
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only because stoatsbrother said "next question".
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pam w, now busy writing my best seller, the working title "Life as a ski bum bag".
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PsychoBabble, I can't wait....
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I always use a small one positioned up high underneath my shell. Keeps the insulin, glucose gels and blood test kit warm. Also makes me look like a one breasted hermaphrodite 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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pam w, Scarpa, on the subject of insulin on the slopes...( oh boy, now we really are going tangentally)
As an ID diabetic since 1975, I confess to not actually carrying the phials of my life-blood on the pistes, or indeed blood testing kit - if I'm under sugared, I have the dextrose for sure, but over sugared.. well, I can almost certainly make it back to civilization before it becomes a problem. Indeed, I suspect I spend a goodly proportion of ski trips slightly higher than at prescribed blood sugar level, but after 33 years of it, think the eyes, feet and general health are/is doing ok.
I'm guessing you are mitigating risk of being away from supplies through for example injury followed by outpatients, and hence not making it home, which is fair enough, and a point I think I should take more seriously. But testing kit? - I'm intrigued.
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JimW, I use the freestyle mini... it's tiny, uses a minute drop of blood, gives readings in seconds, has led torch and is accurate to high altitudes. As with climbing I tend to test about once an hour if I'm using a lot of energy. My levels can bounce around a fair bit (esp with a hangover masking awareness). I also top up insulin with a unit or two here and there as required. I often spend the whole day skiing away from the resort and do a fair bit of off-piste so there is a fair chance that I could end up stuck out.
It might be worth you checking out the MAD site (mountaineering for active diabetics). There's a lot of info on doing some hard core stuff whilst keeping good control.
My HbA1c results are pretty good under this regime and similar to yourself I've been diabetic for over 30 years.
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You know it makes sense.
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Oh... and I switched to lucozade tablets as they don't go as hard if left in the rucksack for months. The sachets of glucose gels beloved by runners and mountain bikers are even better as they easier to swallow on the move. One type has a screw top for multiple sips.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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JimW, like Scarpa, by OH finds his blood sugar levels vary a lot, and he can't always tell whether he is just knackered, like everybody else, or hypoglycaemic. If in doubt (e.g. because he forgot to take his testing kit) he would stoke up on muesli bars or whatever, but he does feel quite vulnerable without the kit. More than once he has done a routine test, despite feeling OK and seemingly skiing OK (given that we don't do anything very hairy) only to find his blood sugar level at something like 2.9. So we prefer to have it with us always.
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Poster: A snowHead
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pam w, Yup... and heavy exertion at altitude can often mask low blood glucose symptoms. I tend to find that if I am exercising hard I get plenty of notice, it's the times when levels drop gradually that I might not notice until it hits the twos. Funnily enough, my legs still work ok until it gets down to approaching 2.0. Oh... and you can be low and your meter reading can still be 6 - 8. There is quite a time lag at times between extremity capillary blood vs organ supplies.
Also, some resorts have runs that can drop into another valley where you may find yourself with a long taxi ride home at the end of the day. If a blizzard set in you could even be stranded for the night. I always have my kit with me.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Scarpa, pam w, Make sense. I'll check out the website - thanks for the heads up.
And yes, I too have gone for the lucozade tablets. That gel stuff? - used it doing the Great North Run - tastes foul...!
But...
still not sure the bum bag is the right solution: sometimes sartorial elegance (of a sort) takes precedence
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Scarpa, get one of the meters calibrated for testing on forearm as well as finger tip samples to avoid that lag? I presume the people with diabetes on this thread use a flexpen or similar disposable pen for skiing?
Thanks for details of the MAD site. I am always looking for resources like that and will check our local DSNs know about it.
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Oh... and you can be low and your meter reading can still be 6 - 8. There is quite a time lag at times between extremity capillary blood vs organ supplies.
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I didn't know that - explains one or two occurrences though. stoatsbrother, we shall do that, though baring a forearm on a ski slope could be even more painful than getting your gloves off! My OH uses the ordinary pen for skiing, they do slip very easily into a bumbag, but also go in the inner zipped jacket pocket, and that does keep the whole thing warmer. The bum bag did get ditched in favour of the "worzel gummidge with turnips" look, most of last season. I often have a backpack but although I am allowed to carry the insulin and spare goggles he won't be parted from the blood testing kit. When it's very cold it's difficult to keep the glucometre warm enough for it to work. I have been known to put it down my bra for a few minutes. He find skiing quite a challenge from the diabetic control point of view - an early stop for vin chaud seems to help....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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and I never even heard of Lucozade tablets - thanks. Useful place, Snowheads.
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Scarpa, met a lady in France over the summer whose hubby is a diabetic climber, he was off to the Himalayas with loads of sponsorship from the insulin manufacturers.
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Helen Beaumont,
Can one climb diabetics? Not much of a challenge, I would have thought...assuming that they stay still long enough for you to reach the 'summit'
and why the Himalayas? are there a plethora of diabetics there, just waiting to be...errrmmm, mounted?
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youspurs1, Now that they get Viagra etc for free on the NHS there is meant to be good climbing on the south slopes...
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PsychoBabble, What do you mean, still have a place. .They never did and never will
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boabski, you have thrown down a challenge there. Who can find a picture of a stylish '70s skier in a bumbag?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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pam w, while you're all looking for that picture, perhaps you could rescue the economy - probably easier rescuing the economy.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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here they are
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I tell people that I wear one... its under my jacket... honest it is.... no.... its not that my bum is big....
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You know it makes sense.
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pam w, RE: Lucozade... get em from Tesco - 47p a packet. For gels I search the web and look for special offers. I do tend to use them mainly for extended mountain biking days.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Scarpa, thanks.
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Poster: A snowHead
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stoatsbrother, My meter is set up for that... but no matter what the location capillary blood will always have some element of lag. I prefer to rely on my (rapidly diminishing according to some) senses. One thing I did notice with more emphasis on tighter controls is that the perception of hypo's becomes more cerebral. Rather than overt physical sensations I tend to have the thought of being 'low' just pop into my head, usually accompanied with a slight feeling of aprehension. Another reason why hangovers screw it up so much 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Oh... the main contact for the MAD site is Nikki Wallis, she's a dog handler with the Llanberis Mountian Rescue Team and has now started triathlons... pretty fit to say the least.
Helen.. was the guy Jerry Gore? He suddenly developed type 1 diabetes in his 30's and has set up in France now.
Trango 08 - The Team
In August the Trango team of Jerry Gore, Gaz Parry, Denis Roy, Pierre Muller, David Kaszlikowski and Eliza Kubarska set to the Trango towers. Click on a name for more info...
Jerry Gore - Leader, Big Wall climber, alpinist, cameraman, Type1 Diabetic, 46 years, British
One of the UK's leading expedition climbers over a 25 year career. New routes on 6, 7, and 8,000m. peaks across the Himalaya and South America. A Big Wall expert with first ascents of alpine big walls in Patagonia, the Pamirs, the Bugaboos, Baffin Island and Greenland. In 2000 he led the first successful ascent of Low’s Gully Wall, which achieved a world first in live streaming the action direct onto the Internet. Widely known in the outdoor world, Jerry has written regularly for the specialist press since the mid 1980’s. An insulin-dependent Type 1 diabetic, Jerry has successfully incorporated dealing with this medical condition into his busy life, and contributes actively through articles in diabetic journals, lectures to schools and diabetic groups, and as a speaker for international seminars.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 22-09-08 20:13; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I prefer to rely on my (rapidly diminishing according to some) senses.
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My OH has a "window" during which he will, if not concentrating too much on something else, be aware of his blood sugar dropping. But below a certain point it's hopeless, and indeed he can argue strongly (and to a third party quite coherently) that he's fine. fortunately I've seen a lot of hypos now, done the glucagon shots in the middle of the night (or once in the middle of a snowdrift!) and take no notice. My own observation (of a "look in the eye", a slightly slack jaw, an odd twitch of the foot in bed) is rarely wrong. But he's 61 now, and has been diabetic since he was 24, so it's been a while.
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pam w, LOL.. yeah.. we can be fairly obnoxious when the brain starts to shut down due to lack of fuel hehehe
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Of course there is no truth to the rumor that I was seen to wear a bum bag on the journeys to and from VT this yearand that it was one I bought on purpose for the journey. No truth whatsoever!! |
I bought 3lt bumbag for my motorbike tour of Europe. It's massive... I love it.
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http://www.mountain-mad.org/MADIDEA%202003/PyB.PDF
I attended the first night of this... very informative. Met up with one chap who had climbed the same ice route as me in Canada... just after the infamous Louise Falls accident I'm glad I bottled the top pitch hehehe
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pam w, I'm loving that photo in a Kajagoogoo (sp) sort of way . took me a while to spot the bumbags though!
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pam w, Scarpa, I spotted the gels when I was in Asda if that's any use to anyone - they also had lucozade still energy drink in collapsable foil packs
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going against the grain here slightly: yes, bum bags are in, but only when worn with an 80's Nevica all in one. You also have to be able to pull back flips effortlessly. Otherwise, steer well clear.
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Megamum, do posh birds shop in Asda?
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