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How to ski, versus how skiing works...

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I would think talking about how to ski and how skiing works on the internet is an entirely different beast to a lesson on a mountain.

Hurrah!

Another lightbulb moment!!!!!! Laughing

Amazing though, how some folk think and expect those two things to be one!! Laughing
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Lots of snowHeads talk a good game.

There are quite a few snowHeads that I've been genuinely impressed by when I've skied with them, or have had instruction from them.

The venn diagram of these two sets would be interesting.
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I don't know about persecuted pedant, but persecuted is right. Time to lighten up and be glad that it is snowing..
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I would think talking about how to ski and how skiing works on the internet is an entirely different beast to a lesson on a mountain.


agreed fully, Hence the thread

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Maybe we need a glossary thread for technical terms so that when terms are discussed or used an explanation in more simple terms could be added to the glossary and an appropriate link made from the more technical thread


excellent suggestion, could we persuade a moderator to creat a WIKI or sticky on the BZK's section..
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rob@rar,
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If there were a couple people in a bar having an unnecessarily complex argument would you tap them on the shoulder and ask them to work a bit harder at simplifying their language and concepts?

Again, an inappropriate analogy. But if you wish to pursue that analogy, the context was more like a bar where a whole load of people were having a discussion, two or three of whom, but not all, were talking gobbledegook. In that instance, I would certainly feel justified in voicing criticism of the gobbledegook.

If I see threads which do look like exclusive technical arguments between geeks, then I do indeed leave them alone, except - as I did in the ILE thread - to ask for some slight clarification if I am, in fact, quietly following the thread, and trying to get something out of it for my own skiing technique. Which request for clarification was, incidentally, met with gratuitous rudeness.
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skimottaret, I think there already is a Wiki on here somewhere!
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skimottaret,
Only if these terms are universally accepted or then you might be getting into a US/Europe can of worms...

It might be funny though...
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Wear The Fox Hat, I do recall finding it once too!! Have been and looked, but can't remember what I was up to the day I tripped into it. If I find it I'll come back here.


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skimottaret,
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she seems to be the only one who can answer you in terms you like or understand.

Provably not so, in fact.
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skimottaret,
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there is a place for discussions on how skiing works as opposed to how to teach skiing

Indeed. I have not changed my mind on that.
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Hurtle, who are you to judge that it is an inappropriate analogy? From what I see the analogy of the pub, or apres ski bar, is the one which is most often used to describe this forum.

I condemn any gratuitous rudeness around here, especially if it is in response to a genuine request for information or help. But I do note that your request for clarification did follow on immediately from this
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Because she's wonderful and clear-headed - and, most importantly, doesn't get off on the sound/look of her own prose.
referring to easiski. Is it any wonder that you request was ignored (if that is what you are describing as rudeness).
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skimottaret, I think there already is a Wiki on here somewhere!


There is but very hard to find, i actually bothered to upload some info once but it never gets looked at.... A stciky might be better but then as JT says it would be a bun fight over the definitions.....
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Krispy Kreme, or Eccles cake?
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rob@rar,
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you request was ignored (if that is what you are describing as rudeness).

No, it wasn't.
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Hurtle wrote:
skimottaret,
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there is a place for discussions on how skiing works as opposed to how to teach skiing

Indeed. I have not changed my mind on that.


Please remember that when you are making such critical remarks of people who are trying to learn how skiing works.....


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Hurtle wrote:
rob@rar,
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you request was ignored (if that is what you are describing as rudeness).

No, it wasn't.

OK. Perhaps if you hadn't got your retaliation in first your question might have elicited a more helpful response.
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veeeight, didn't Two Tonne Ted find stale pork pies very effective!! Sorry, off topic but I'm trying to lighten the mood a little.
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Megamum, poor Ernie.
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Megamum, thanks for trying to lighten the mood, but this discussion has descended into an arguement just like all the technical how to ski discussions do, ...... have a re read of the opening post and see if any names fit the profile.....
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rob@rar,
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who are you to judge that it is an inappropriate analogy? From what I see the analogy of the pub, or apres ski bar, is the one which is most often used to describe this forum.

The inappropriateness I was referring to was tapping the shoulders of two people having a quiet/private conversation. That does happen in a bar, but doesn't happen here.
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skimottaret,
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critical remarks of people who are trying to learn how skiing works.....

No, I would not - at least not intentionally - criticise anyone who was trying to learn.
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Hurtle wrote:
rob@rar,
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who are you to judge that it is an inappropriate analogy? From what I see the analogy of the pub, or apres ski bar, is the one which is most often used to describe this forum.

The inappropriateness I was referring to was tapping the shoulders of two people having a quiet/private conversation. That does happen in a bar, but doesn't happen here.

So every thread has to take into account the level of interest/understanding/expertise of all 8,000+ members of snowHeads, just in case they are lurking and possibly might want to join in?
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Megamum,

I wouldn't worry, Hurtle is more than capable of holding her own....it will lighten up soon. or we will all go to bed...
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Hurtle, i take that to mean with learn in italics that you feel that i am not actually here to learn and have some other motivation.


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...it will lighten up soon. or we will all go to bed...



Sorry mate, you're just not my type.
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I have to say that IMV a lot of these discussions descend into willy waving.
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JT, wink

rob@rar,
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So every thread has to take into account the level of interest/understanding/expertise of all 8,000+ members of snowHeads, just in case they are lurking and possibly might want to join in?

No, indeed not. As I said above, I would generally steer clear of a technical conversation that was being pursued exclusively between experts. But that wasn't happening in the thread in question, and doesn't seem to happen at all often anyway.
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Kramer, Erm, haven't actually got one. Shocked
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Must be a strap on then.
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Hurtle, I know, and it wasn't you I was referring to.
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veeeight, congratulations on 2000 posts! Some challenging the establishment, some relevant, some irrelevant. You may get a lot of abuse here, but I appreciate your slant on things. snowHead
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skimottaret,
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i take that to mean with learn in italics that you feel that i am not actually here to learn and have some other motivation.

My remark was not directed at you personally. I was merely saying that I would not intentionally criticise anyone who was trying to learn - as opposed to someone who appeared to be preaching or, as Kramer has just so graphically put it, waving his willy.
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Foxy, snowHead


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Hurtle wrote:
I would generally steer clear of a technical conversation that was being pursued exclusively between experts. But that wasn't happening in the thread in question, and doesn't seem to happen at all often anyway.

I don't think it matters whether the participants are 'experts' or not. If they are happy to continue a discussion using a particular style of language and way of describing skiing what is the problem? If you or I wanted to have a different type of discussion surely starting our own thread or asking our own questions is a much better than criticising other people's style of discourse? It just puts people's backs up and makes then overly defensive or rude.
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Ah c'mon....some good gags in there...!!! must have got one or two laughs
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Hurtle, exactly who are you referring to?
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Hurtle wrote:
My remark was not directed at you personally. I was merely saying that I would not intentionally criticise anyone who was trying to learn - as opposed to someone who appeared to be preaching or, as Kramer has just so graphically put it, waving his willy.

Have you been appointed Willy Waving Police for the Bend Zee Knees section?


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Early start tomorrow, inspection of a psychiatric ICU. So, on the way from one madhouse to another, I'm off to bed now. Pax, guys?
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