 Poster: A snowHead
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@Markymark29, @kitenski, +1. Calm, slow ride resting the legs after the descent from Madloch.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| kitenski wrote: |
| @Markymark29, agree that was always a lovely peaceful lift, passing over streams in spring!! |
…and the Bra Tree! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think it is good to realize that instead of a 10-gondola, a 6 or 8-chair would cost at lot more trees....
Apart from that, Zug needs a secure download option, given that both skiroutes to Zug are very much affected by avalanches.
Also with this gondola it might be made possible to walk gently down all the way from Zuger Berg to Lech, even in winter. And the gondola is supposed to run in summer too.
Oh, and appearently you guys have only used the old chair in good weather....whilst the word Zug (=draft) refers to the severe western winds often blowing here.... 
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@Langerzug, have used it in all weathers, would always choose a chair in all weathers vs a gondola.
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@Langerzug,
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no you don’t. Get real!
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You have no idea what i've experienced or like/ dislike, i've never met you, so you'd not know my preferences. For what it's worth however, I go skiing to be in the open air and nature not be in a plastic bubble breathing the expired co2 coming out of people like you. If that means I'd have a 3-4 minute queue that for me is preferable to being cooked up with idiots and not being able to see the underwear hanging from the trees as @ulmerhutte, reminded me.
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| Markymark29 wrote: |
@Langerzug,
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no you don’t. Get real!
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You have no idea what i've experienced or like/ dislike, i've never met you, so you'd not know my preferences. For what it's worth however, I go skiing to be in the open air and nature not be in a plastic bubble breathing the expired co2 coming out of people like you. If that means I'd have a 3-4 minute queue that for me is preferable to being cooked up with idiots and not being able to see the underwear hanging from the trees as @ulmerhutte, reminded me. |
Whilst we're on being cooked up, I object to people pulling the plastic screen down on chairs even when the weather only threatens. Everybody is kitted up anyway - goggles, helmets. gloves, ski wear, so why pull down the screen? You can't see what the weather is doing as the chair ascends. With the screen up you can assess the conditions.
Start a "BAN CHAIR LIFT SCREENS" campaign before next Winter!
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And while we're at it, STOP THE BRUTAL GROOMING!
Actually, please don't do that because I don't go off-piste anymore 
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@davidthornton, agreed I also dislike chair covers, especially when people pull them down in sub-zero bluebird weather moaning they are cold. Any with no request to the other people, they just yank them down, how rude.
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@davidthornton, @Markymark29, I am afraid I am one of those folk who want to pull the the screens down as soon as it get cold and windy. I do like the fresh air (used to like the old Schindlerbahn, though it was not good in poor weather) but with the getting old thing prefer to not get frozen on a chair lift.... There are lifts that have both chairs and gondolas so folk can have a choice.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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10 person Gondolas seem to be the lift of choice these days particularly on busy ski circuits.
I imagine the decision is to do with capacity, cost effectiveness, downloading ability, disability access and future proofing. Gondolas can carry bikes and mixed ability groups all year round. They are also a safer option in windy weather particularly if climate change means more unsettled weather and stronger winds in the alps.
I agree though it’s a shame to lose a favourite chair for the sake of ‘progress’. As an aging telemarker it’s a pain having to take skis off at the bottom of every run.
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So to sum up - in the Arlberg less chairs are swinging but more hotels are.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Markymark29, there were smilies in my posting. You are taking things too serious here. Get real!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I almost agree with @stanton (shock, horror!)… very rarely have I ridden Zugerbergbahn in freezing wind. Yes, it is protected for a good deal of its length, far better than the preceding lift. There has been many a time I have had my butt frozen on the Madlochbahn. There are points on that lift ride that really catch the wind.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Zugerbergbahn runs from 1500 to 2100m.
Treeline is at 1800
Ca 50% through trees, 50% out in the open
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Plenty of construction work already under way in St Anton, Stadle, Gand ..
Hotel (Takedowns & Rebuilds)
Pensions/Gasthof Rebuilds
Plus more....
Major Excavation works near the Nassereinbahn
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ticket Prices for the coming season the Lift Company say's will be announced in the coming days.....
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Zürs
FIS Parallel Races are again pencilled in to take place early before next season officially opens.
Dates 13. und 14. November 2021
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@stanton,
Had to check the calendar to see if it was the first of June or April today.
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Looks like it was a fun day.
Been too long since I was last on skis.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Makes sense the new Madloch base station is on the other side of the lake (I have seen pictures of folk queuing across the frozen lake from the 1950s). Are they remodelling the piste beside the lift to get rid of the very dull plod up to the little col at the end? I am sure @stanton, would be happy to walk
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You know it makes sense.
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Construction New Madlochbahn..
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Beautiful day!
@munich_irish, moving the load to that side of the lake will also make it safer. Have seen many collisions and near-misses on the uphill section. Some people run out of speed (or confidence) on the uphill section and then suddenly turn/stop, leaving people behind them, still on a high-speed tuck, with limited options to avoid a collision.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ulmerhutte wrote: |
Beautiful day!
@munich_irish, moving the load to that side of the lake will also make it safer. Have seen many collisions and near-misses on the uphill section. Some people run out of speed (or confidence) on the uphill section and then suddenly turn/stop, leaving people behind them, still on a high-speed tuck, with limited options to avoid a collision. |
Yep, that's a problem elsewhere as well. Timid skiers are a danger to everyone.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@ulmerhutte, @davidthornton, you both need to learn the FIS rules.
In case you missed it, they are used in court as well. And timid skiers tend to get the judge’s sympathy, not the less timid.....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Langerzug wrote: |
@ulmerhutte, @davidthornton, you both need to learn the FIS rules.
In case you missed it, they are used in court as well. And timid skiers tend to get the judge’s sympathy, not the less timid..... |
As usual, you have missed the point. Are you really that thick? You are certainly that arrogant.
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| Langerzug wrote: |
@ulmerhutte, @davidthornton, you both need to learn the FIS rules.
In case you missed it, they are used in court as well. And timid skiers tend to get the judge’s sympathy, not the less timid..... |
Well aware of the rules and obligations, merely acknowledging a common problem on the schuss.
Perhaps a lane demarcation could be marked out to separate slow/inexperienced skiers from the faster/competent ones.
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@davidthornton, @ulmerhutte, fast is not competent, competent is not fast
if you think timid skiers are the problem, you probably need to become more timid yourselves.
@ulmerhutte, what then is your point? For now I'm only detecting machismo from your side. Timid skiers can never be the problem. Talking about arrogance!
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| Langerzug wrote: |
@davidthornton, @ulmerhutte, fast is not competent, competent is not fast
if you think timid skiers are the problem, you probably need to become more timid yourselves.
@ulmerhutte, what then is your point? For now I'm only detecting machismo from your side. Timid skiers can never be the problem. Talking about arrogance! |
I told you that you missed the point - as usual.
I suspect you do not actually ski. You certainly do not seem to recognise the realities of skiing and one of those realities is that there will always be a mix of skiers out on the slopes; a mix in terms of competence, attitude, risk appetite, sober or otherwise, tired or full of energy, etc, etc. Resorts recognise that and, all things being equal, will try to design pistes, lift access & unload, etc to minimise the risk of accidents between skiers and skiers & hardware. They also try to design for convenience- where possible. Those 2 factors are evident in the decision to move the Madlochbahn load to that side of the lake. That was my point.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Tue 3-08-21 11:22; edited 1 time in total
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Actually the original plan was to relocate the new Madlochbahn base station adjacent to the Muggengratbahn but the new lift trajectory was a problem & permissions for new Avalanche barriers were unlikely to be granted ....
As for Ski Pistes.. They should STOP this environmental disaster !
This is what it looks like ..... Zurs Ski Race Piste Preparation..
STOP THE BRUTAL GROOMMING..
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@stanton, ...... *burp*
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