 Poster: A snowHead
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@Scarlet,
It‘s a mystery to me why certain areas are the highest during certain times in one wave but lowest during another.
I was vaccinated (2nd) on 24/06 but wanted to get a booster before Christmas.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| Had a very gloomy email from Crystal regarding our Xmas ski holiday. Basically saying future very uncertain in Austria and offering refunds. I’m starting to feel tempted if I’m honest. But go where else? |
Get paid out on the refund and then you can just do a DIY trip wherever with the bunce.
My trip to Fernie for Jan got cancelled with them last Sat I had the £2k back in my account on Mon!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Remember just because they don’t really want to go there now due to lack of numbers or whatever (it could be on the bookings they have at the moment they will make a loss or next to no profit if they run the trip so that’s why they are now offering refunds) doesn’t mean you can’t go under your own steam. Loads of other options there’s plenty of accommodation going all over the place.
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I skied today on the Kitzsteinhorn at Kaprun. To start with my Salzburg SuperSkiCard wasn't accepted at the turnstile for the Gletscherjet 1 gondola. And the same happened for the friend I was skiing with. Before we were let through there was a check that we satisfied Covid 2G requirements (a new requirement since 16th November, I believe). Having finally just yesterday read in on my phone a new pdf file confirming that I am double vaccinated I was at last able to get the Austrian Grüner Pass app (green passport) to work and all the lift operator at the gate needed was to check my ski pass and the Covid QR code. No Internet connection was required. That all went smoothly and only took a couple of minutes. I am hoping now that the details have been associated with my ski pass, so that it isn’t necessary to go through the same procedure every time. After that there was nothing to stop us enjoying a good day's skiing - and we even had blue skies and sun by about midday. Not too busy either.
One positive side effect of this new check was that there was less checking being done in the Alpincenter restaurant at lunchtime. Not that that had ever been a problem previously.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@espri, yes I think they must have put a block on like with lost or stolen ski passes maybe to get you to go to the desk and then once they’ve seen your evidence the block is taken off.
Perfect! Good to know you had a nice day.
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
| Remember just because they don’t really want to go there now due to lack of numbers or whatever (it could be on the bookings they have at the moment they will make a loss or next to no profit if they run the trip so that’s why they are now offering refunds) doesn’t mean you can’t go under your own steam. Loads of other options there’s plenty of accommodation going all over the place. |
Sorry just re-read it and it says we can change now plus 10% off new holiday or move it to next year. OR wait till 14 days beforehand and go(if our vaccination status is ok)/change/refund. Now have no idea what to do.
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@bambionskiis, I reckon if they are offering you that now then they are already thinking they are going to cancel it. Why don’t you price up a DIY trip somewhere including the flights and see what that comes to for the 3? of you. If it’s cheaper than what you’ve already got then you could move the Crystal trip to next year knowing if you want to go you can DIY it. Almost all flight carriers are offering free amendments so if you choose a Salzburg flight for example you can use that next summer for something if you decide not to go at all.
By the way they’ve not cancelled my trip to Cervinia on 12th Dec yet and I’ve had all the stuff through telling me what I need to do before going so it sounds like some places are working out alright for them.
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@bambionskiis, if you do decide to do your own trip somewhere you can do 17th Dec to 27th Dec or whatever so you don’t get stung on the weekend flights.
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Do you know which airline you are flying with?
Sometimes TUI will use EasyJet & easyjet have been cancelling a lot of flights. So can be out of their control.
You should be able to check the schedule on the airports
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@Mr.Egg, yes, I booked a flight to Munich with EasyJet for Hintertux last week and they cancelled it within 2 days so I booked Lufthansa instead.
That wasn’t the first time either so I’ve avoided them since.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| Had a very gloomy email from Crystal regarding our Xmas ski holiday. Basically saying future very uncertain in Austria and offering refunds. I’m starting to feel tempted if I’m honest. But go where else? |
Macron and Castex (his side kick) both adamant that no more lock downs, and definitely a ski season. But reserving the right pour encourager les vaccinations*
* I can speak better french that what that wos
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I just received an email from Crystal re our trip to Zell am See on Dec 20th. Doesn’t seem like they’re trying to get us cancel at all. Perhaps they’re less certain about particular dates? Email I received below:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR HOLIDAY
Hi Mr XXX,
We hope you're looking forward to your ski holiday.
Before you go, you'll need to make sure that you comply with entry requirements for the country you're travelling to and for when you return to the UK. You'll find this information in our Travel with Confidence hub which covers:
Entry and vaccination requirements for your destination.
Any testing requirements for your destination.
Important information about traveling with children.
Local requirements and restrictions in your destination.
Re-entry requirements for when you return to the UK.
Please read everything carefully, in particular:
Right now, adults aged 18 or over can only go on holiday to Austria if they're fully vaccinated. The rules for children are different - please see our hub for full details.
This information is kept up to date, but travel advice can change quickly, so please check the page regularly in the run-up to your holiday. And for the most up-to-date government travel advice, please visit the Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office (FCDO) website.
And don't forget, we've got you covered with our Crystal Holiday Promise which includes our:
Red list pledge.
Easy and affordable COVID-19 testing.
Package holiday refund guarantee.
Crystal standards secured.
Fee-free changes*.
And because you're departing within a month, you're eligible for fee-free changes up to 21 days before your departure date.
We can't wait to welcome you to the mountains.
Your Crystal team
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
Sorry just re-read it and it says we can change now plus 10% off new holiday or move it to next year. OR wait till 14 days beforehand and go(if our vaccination status is ok)/change/refund. Now have no idea what to do. |
Bambionskiis any chance you can post the (anonymised) text of you email from Crystal?
We’ve not had anything yet.
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You know it makes sense.
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@coxy84, not sure they have sent you accurate information. As I understand it (happy to be proved wrong) the regulations for being fully vaccinated apply from 12 years old not 18.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @coxy84, not sure they have sent you accurate information. As I understand it (happy to be proved wrong) the regulations for being fully vaccinated apply from 12 years old not 18. |
I think you are correct - the main problem for British holidaymakers will be if they have children between 12 and 18 who are only single jabbed (or not at all) in the UK (as that has been the policy), unless they can have been shown to have recovered from Covid - someone posted yesterday about ringing up a lift pass company in the Wilder Kaiser area (?) to check the "recovery" option.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Any idea about transiting through Austria by car - No stopping? Is any documentation required?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Frosty the Snowman, as long as you are fully vaccinated no issues entering Austria for whatever purposes whether you stop or not. I dont believe Austria has a health form. Germany does but it is not required for transit. Switzerland also has one and is required for transit.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @Frosty the Snowman, as long as you are fully vaccinated no issues entering Austria for whatever purposes whether you stop or not. I dont believe Austria has a health form. Germany does but it is not required for transit. Switzerland also has one and is required for transit. |
Flying into Munich from Dublin, what documents will be required, thank You
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Lockdown just announced for Salzburg and Oberösterreich.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Mankei wrote: |
| Lockdown just announced for Salzburg and Oberösterreich. |
IF no Austria-wide lockdown is announced. Reading the tea leaves, one might expect not just SBG and OÖ... Haven't read/heard exactly what they mean by lockdown this time though..?
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@coxy84, that’s just the standard email I had the same one for my trip to Cervinia (with text adjusted for Italy of course) so it sounds like they are going ahead with your trip. I believe they have up to 20 days before departure to cancel it though for whatever reason.
Bambionskis must have had a different one by the sounds of it.
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Press conference this afternoon apparently. It's not looking positive. is it??
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@2waterford, You will need your vaccination certificate (Germany has no issue with J&J). There is a German plf https://www.einreiseanmeldung.de/#/. This is not required for transit but you might find check in is easier if you have done so (you might have to make up a German address so you can fill in the form as there is no transit option as far as I can remember).
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Flying into Munich from Dublin, what documents will be required, thank You
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If you're transiting into Austria from MUC just show your accommodation details, as you can't fill in German DEA without German address - absolutely no problem at passort control 
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @2waterford, You will need your vaccination certificate (Germany has no issue with J&J). There is a German plf https://www.einreiseanmeldung.de/#/. This is not required for transit but you might find check in is easier if you have done so (you might have to make up a German address so you can fill in the form as there is no transit option as far as I can remember). |
Yes there is definitely no transit option on the list of exemptions from quarantine section, presumably because those in transit (up to 24 hours in Germany) are not required to fill in the form. However I have heard anecdotally that the airline check-in process is trickier without the form (which is slightly concerning for me as I'm also transiting via Munich - if we get to go at all that is!)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Press conference this afternoon apparently. It's not looking positive. is it??
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Not if you're unvaccinated - or caught by the need to have a booster when you don't actually qualify to get one yet...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Lufthansa want you to upload the form before travelling to enable easier check in. You could simply put in an address of an airport hotel to allow you to complete the form.
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I didn’t have any problems going from LHR to Munich on 6th Nov. Check in lady asked me for the PLF but I said I’m going to Austria though and she said ‘ah that’s fine then’ and didn’t ask me for the accommodation booking in Austria.
At Munich the border policeman did ask me where I was going i.e. not staying in Germany and asked if I had skied in Austria before, which resort I was going to and the name of the hotel but didn’t ask to see any proof.
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You know it makes sense.
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Its just been announced here Salzburg is going back into lockdown, along with Upper Austria for "many weeks" whatever that means. Im so angry.
Details to follow at a press conference this afternoon.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Kooky, 
Sorry to hear that
Maybe they are thinking until Christmas before the main tourist season starts to get the numbers down?
God knows.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'm travelling with BA who I've been told anecdotally also want the form to uploaded in order to complete online check-in. I do actually have an address in Germany because I'm staying the night in the airport hotel before travelling to Austria on the train the following day (well within the 24 hour time limit and I have my train tickets as proof). However my complication is that I am travelling with a child who, if we did not meet the 24 hour exemption from quarantine, would normally be required to quarantine in Germany. However there is nowhere on the form to actually say this as the transit exemption does not appear on the list of exemptions from quarantine section (presumably because those in transit are not actually required to complete the form!) My plan is, if pushed came to shove and required to do the form just to check in, to lie and tick the 72 hours reuniting with first degree relatives exemption. We'll be travelling just before Christmas on German passports so totally believable, but not actually true so I'd rather not do this if possible.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@VolklAttivaS5, I actually think it will be a nationwide lockdown, but if it isnt we are definitely locked down again.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Kooky wrote: |
| @VolklAttivaS5, I actually think it will be a nationwide lockdown, but if it isnt we are definitely locked down again. |
Is this for everyone though or just the unvaccinated proportion of the population?
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Well looks like we may have to press the cancel button
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Press conference this afternoon apparently. It's not looking positive. is it??
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Not if you're unvaccinated - or (worse as the unvaccinated can get vaccinated at will) will be caught by the need to have a booster when you don't actually qualify to get one yet... 
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
| Kooky wrote: |
| @VolklAttivaS5, I actually think it will be a nationwide lockdown, but if it isnt we are definitely locked down again. |
Is this for everyone though or just the unvaccinated proportion of the population? |
There is already a nationwide lock down for the unvaccinated, Salzburg and OÖ have just announced the lockdown for everyone, nationwide lockdown for everyone seems likely to follow soon.
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@clarky999, what’s the point of being vaccinated then….
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@VolklAttivaS5, In Salzburg it is for everyone. What indeed was the point of getting vaxxed, it really sends out the wrong message.
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Does anyone know how long this lockdown is supposed to be for?
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That is the big problem the Government faces, if they do lock down the whole country then that will reduce any chance of ever achieving a high enough vaccination rate. Unless they can maybe spin it as lockdown for x no weeks because of insufficient numbers then only release those that have at least started the process.
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