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bambionskiis wrote:
She detests technology which is a real shame and as I’m pretty sure she has dementia, I think that ship has sailed!! She’s desperate for a cat so I’ll get back onto that search. I had been holding off but I may crack on with that now.

Our family has had some experience with dementia, so I hope you don't mind me butting in here. If you don't already have it, it would be sensible to set up a power of attorney while your mum is still switched on enough to sign it. This will make your life way easier just for simple things like sorting out her electric bill if she can no longer manage. You can't get permission from someone who doesn't have the capacity, so sooner rather than later is better.

Then, try and get her a diagnosis. This may open up some avenues for assistance if you need it.

Finally, I'd be wary of getting a cat. In the short term if she can look after it that's fine, but if she deteriorates the cat may suffer from lack of or inappropriate care. My nan was feeding hers all sorts of things like sandwiches, while the cat was never sure where his next meal was coming from so ate anything that was available. He got a bit tubby to say the least!
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holidayloverxx wrote:
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I suspect @geoffknight isnt fully cognisant of the facts


Clearly not, please accept my apologies
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@geoffknight, Very Happy
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Apologies for the amount of drivvle I may.post on Snowheads.

Please don't apologize, or we'll all have to do it!

@bambionskiis, it sounds as though your mum would benefit from a cat, especially as she is unable/unwilling to communicate in other ways. I am not a pet lover by a long way, but it can be a life line for some people. Undemanding, uncritical, unconditional affection. Some care homes have a suitably tolerant and affectionate dog, and people with dementia can get a lot of pleasure out of them. However, one care home near here replaced a much loved dog that died with one which just didn't behave itself and had to be kicked out - one of the care staff nobly adopted it. There's enough unpredictable aggression from some people in care homes, without adding a nervy dog into the mix!
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Apologies for the amount of drivvle I may.post on Snowheads.

Please don't apologize, or we'll all have to do it!

@bambionskiis, it sounds as though your mum would benefit from a cat, especially as she is unable/unwilling to communicate in other ways.


Excellent advice.

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I am not a pet lover by a long way,


I always knew there was something odd about you.

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but it can be a life line for some people. Undemanding, uncritical, unconditional affection.


Cats can be very demanding.
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I made this today.
Totally made up on the spot but interesting conclusions
I use a spreadsheet to model Coronavirus spread.
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http://youtube.com/v/GYLDe9bBZUU
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@cameronphillips2000, Do you have tldr version if you don't mind me asking?
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@cameronphillips2000, Brilliant......brings things into sharp relief. Thank you.
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@cameronphillips2000, I didn’t have time to watch it and was wondering what the conclusion was?
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@cameronphillips2000, Too Long Didn't Read. Sometimes written as TL;DR.
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if you watch after about 45 minutes you see the effect of transmission rate on current cases and death rate

I was changing it between about 0.1 and 0.3

Two weeks ago in central Europe, they were getting about 30% extra cases a day. At this rate it spreads alarmingly and the death rate per day reaches hundreds of thousands at it's peak.
Lat week it was down to 0.2
Hopefully now, it's more like 0.1 in most countries. - this gives it a much longer spread and far fewer cases per day to deal with.

I hadn't thought of it but there's a rate where new infections is less than people coming out out of the other side cured - at this rate the total infections soon falls and things get under control.

I we say it takes and average of 14 days to cure then that's effective about 0.074 cure rate per day on current cases.
There is, of course a lag in the system of 14 days. If we had 96% cured from 14 days ago - let's say 100 people, then the infected rate today may be 1000 people - so you cure 96 people that day but you've got new cases infected by the 1000 infected today.
Putting the number is into my deeply flawed spreadsheet gives and infection rate of about .07-0.08 per day per infected person to have a massive decline in cases
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cheers, food for thought.
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I cant help but think when you see all the politicians that have caught it and proved by test there must be many thousands probably tens of thousands of normal folk who have had very mild or non existent symptoms and thus not tested, the chances of these great and good getting it and not us plebs is so small the virus must be far more widespread than official numbers
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robs1 wrote:
... the virus must be far more widespread than official numbers
At the time of the first No.10 press conference with the PM and his science advisers (about 10 days ago), confirmed infections in the UK were around 500. The Chief Science Adviser said that they believed the actual number of infections in the population were in the range of 5,000-10,000.
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My insurers tell me that the whole resort closing isn't counted as "curtailment" for insurance purposes. They are a reputable company, but we are self-bookers, self-drivers and dont' have a "travel company" to turn to, which is what they are telling us to do.

Is this general for holiday insurance or can anyone recommend a good insurance company for skiing that does cover resort closure?

It looks as if our 2-elders annual European policy, taken out not long ago, is now basically waste paper - not sure if I can do anything about that Sad (Not really a good bog paper substitute either Smile )
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My memory is that lift pass costs were refundable on some policies if all the lifts were shut. But just because you can't ski, that doesn't mean your holiday has been "curtailed". Same if you couldn't ski because you were injured on the first run of the first day. They would meet the costs of the injury, insofar as their policy allows, but not the fact that you can't ski for the rest of the week. I have an annual policy too - expensive because extra cost for pre-existing medical conditions. No use to me now!
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robs1 wrote:
I cant help but think when you see all the politicians that have caught it and proved by test there must be many thousands probably tens of thousands of normal folk who have had very mild or non existent symptoms and thus not tested, the chances of these great and good getting it and not us plebs is so small the virus must be far more widespread than official numbers


I think Germany is the country to look for to get the true death rate.
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Looking at the Gernay death rate to ours, it would suggest any e 50 000 in the UK have it.
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@cameronphillips2000, reckon there's 2 out of the 4 of us in this house have it as coughs and fevers have been all the rage since Wednesday. Given we don't know of anyone else first hand with symptoms, I'd be surprised if it's as low as 50,000 if you include those no symptoms.
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If there was 5000 ten days ago and each one infects only one person a day on average then those 5000 have infected 50000 now sp the true number now must be pushing a million which is probably why the gov is cracking down on pubs etc as on a week we are going to see the serious cases being admitted to hospital, I reckon we will know by Easter how bad things will get here and deaths peak by the first week in may, got to pray they are less than italy
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Wet wrote:
My insurers tell me that the whole resort closing isn't counted as "curtailment" for insurance purposes. They are a reputable company, but we are self-bookers, self-drivers and dont' have a "travel company" to turn to, which is what they are telling us to do.

Is this general for holiday insurance or can anyone recommend a good insurance company for skiing that does cover resort closure?

It looks as if our 2-elders annual European policy, taken out not long ago, is now basically waste paper - not sure if I can do anything about that Sad (Not really a good bog paper substitute either Smile )


If they have rejected your claim, you can approach the financial ombudsman service to consider it independently. It is free for consumers.
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Thanks. Alas I think I will be stymied by the small print. I'll be reading other policies with interest to see how they deal with this kind of thing, but I suspect they mostly protect themselves ..

This was an unexpected situation only a few weeks ago.
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robs1 wrote:
If there was 5000 ten days ago and each one infects only one person a day on average then those 5000 have infected 50000 now sp the true number now must be pushing a million which is probably why the gov is cracking down on pubs etc as on a week we are going to see the serious cases being admitted to hospital, I reckon we will know by Easter how bad things will get here and deaths peak by the first week in may, got to pray they are less than italy


It's very hard to tell. I know Germany has hadcextebsuve testing and their figures are erica Kyle the most accurate
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
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It's very hard to tell. I know Germany has hadcextebsuve testing and their figures are erica Kyle the most accurate

Erica Kyle? Is that rhyming slang?
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
robs1 wrote:
If there was 5000 ten days ago and each one infects only one person a day on average then those 5000 have infected 50000 now sp the true number now must be pushing a million which is probably why the gov is cracking down on pubs etc as on a week we are going to see the serious cases being admitted to hospital, I reckon we will know by Easter how bad things will get here and deaths peak by the first week in may, got to pray they are less than italy


It's very hard to tell. I know Germany has hadcextebsuve testing and their figures are erica Kyle the most accurate


Looking at the figures sausage side (Germany) I note a high number of cases with relatively low death and recovery rates. They've got lots of people tubed up on oxygen then?
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
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It's very hard to tell. I know Germany has hadcextebsuve testing and their figures are erica Kyle the most accurate

Erica Kyle? Is that rhyming slang?


Yep, for sieg heil.
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I know so many people who have the right symptoms; 111 has told them they probably have it if they've called. Given the numbers of random celebs, politicians, sportspeople etc who are confirmed and presumably have access to testing that most of us don't, I'd say the numbers are indeed well into six figures if not more. I also know somebody who was tested a week or so ago (for research purposes, no suspicions) and was positive and seriously had NO symptoms. So on the plus side, it probably means the mortality/complication rate is a lot less than we think, but on the minus side, it means it's probably too late for most people to avoid it now unless they'd been locked up for a month.
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@Gerry, yebut people don’t die the day they are determined to have the virus. You have to compare numbers that are 2/3 weeks apart. Then the ratio looks much worse.

It’s instructive to look at the daily rates for Italy:
https://covid19info.live/italy/
..then expand the CDR:daily to full screen an then select a log scale.

Deaths are still heading north at an alarming rate. Expect ~1000 per day by Monday and ~2000 by Thursday. At least the curve is starting to flatten - albeit slowly.

The UK curves seem to be about two weeks behind. The rate of increase might not be quite as steep but it’s difficult to be sure at the moment because our smaller figures are still noisy.

All very compelling support for the need for isolation, IMV.
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https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/ischgl-oesterreichisches-skiparadies-als-corona-hotspot/
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Gerry wrote:
pieman666 wrote:
cameronphillips2000 wrote:
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It's very hard to tell. I know Germany has hadcextebsuve testing and their figures are erica Kyle the most accurate

Erica Kyle? Is that rhyming slang?


Yep, for sieg heil.


do many others in life think you're an idiot?
Sausage eaters and Sieg heil, what century do you think youre in?


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@Mother hucker, you have a really stupid name that only an idiot would choose.
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Hmmm does reverting to childish playground name calling earn a block or just pity? Puzzled
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Question: is it racist to blame Chinese live markets for the spread of this virus? Isn’t it just a fact? The PC brigade seem to be working very hard to deflect blame and rebrand this virus as a ‘something that was overdue anyway’.
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New information helps answer my question for me.
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pam w wrote:
Same if you couldn't ski because you were injured on the first run of the first day. They would meet the costs of the injury, insofar as their policy allows, but not the fact that you can't ski for the rest of the week. I have an annual policy too - expensive because extra cost for pre-existing medical conditions. No use to me now!


I have an annual policy through Insure & Go for me & the hubby, with extra cover for pre existing conditions for me (arthritis/back injury/IBD). Comes in easily under £100 a year. Have claimed twice for ski injuries & they have been great.

The cover for list passes & injury is included - “Q3 - Ski pack What you are covered for We will pay up to the amount shown in the table of benefits for a percentage of the cost of your ski pack (if you have already paid and can’t get the money back). We will do this if you are ill or injured while you are on holiday and you are not well enough to use it. You must get a medical certificate to prove that you were not well enough. A ski pack includes ski-school fees or ski-instructor fees, hired skis, ski boots and bindings, snowboards, snowboard boots and bindings, and the cost of any lift pass you have booked.”

And it works. Got taken out getting off a lift 3 years ago - they refunded everything left on my lift pass as the doctor gave me a not fit to ski note. Absolutely no quibble on that or my rescue/medical costs from the top of the mountain down to the medical centre in resort.
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@motyl, can't park your left wing ideology?
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Hmmm does reverting to childish playground name calling earn a block or just pity? Puzzled

i didnt bother responding to the comment, just didnt seem worth a dialog getting involved in.
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