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Can't do Atlantic flights cos I suffer really badly from air rage
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Plus you would spend at least 10X travel costs to North America than to Alps. |
How do you arrive at that?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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By plane?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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pam w; Where are you skiing?
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Yes by plane.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Last time I checked flights I think it was £60 return from London to Geneva, Vancouver about £700 return.
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And I'm not talking, "from" but actual price for a realistic time of travel, i.e Saturday at the right times.
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10x? I don't think so! By plane yes. I think it would be considerably more if it was with the Queen Mary trans-at cruise, plus transfers 
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Just did another quick check; flying out sat 11th, returning sat 25th of Jan (2014)- price £690
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Same dates; London to Geneva £59 return
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My last transatlantic flight was £392 return, all in. Booked directly on airline website. I've been quoted more than that for Pan-EU flights, although most for me are €100-ish.
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atraherne, as a headline price maybe but rarely what people end up paying (especially when carrying skis). Peak dates like New Year, half term etc, people are routinely paying £250 London-GVA. Trans-Atlantic prices are fairly constant and people tend to book them further out. The differential is probably more like 3 or 4 times in the real world. Transfer from say Denver to Vail on CME is a smidge cheaper than Geneva to say Meribel.
And, yes, by plane. I sort of suspected that.
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I use skyscanner.net. Usually finds best prices, but not always. I have flown to Denver for about £380 return but that was about 7yrs ago when flights were considerably cheaper.
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I don't travel during new year / half term. Those prices are all in. I usually rent skis. Regardless ski carry cost applies for both London Geneva, or London - Vancouver.
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Wed 31-07-13 15:45; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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| pam w wrote: |
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Can't do Atlantic flights cos I suffer really badly from air rage
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I think what it amounts to is that food and drink on the slopes in a handful of "big name" French resorts can be very expensive without a bit of local knowledge as to where to look.
For the rest - lift passes, hire of equipment, accommodation, it's much of a muchness in euroland.
I've been surprised (and pleased) at the amount of investment in lifts in our area - at least one new lift a year since the turn of the century! |
Hehe. I will ski anywhere I like the look of. This resort has just been ticking the boxes for the past couple of years for convenience more than anything. Could probably get a lot more for my money in Italy, but it would cost more to get there and level out in the end. Will probably still go though. Would love to ski in the Dolomites.
Big resorts boasting huge amounts of 'snow sure' terrain and good transport links can be silly money for eating out etc etc BUT there are always other options. Also, the pricey places tend to have the most obnoxious staff, all in my personal experience of course ( I bit one last season for being a rude prat).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Maybe someone can recommend a better flight price comparison site?
Like car insurance I don't generally like the hassle of going direct, at least initially.
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Poster: A snowHead
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atraherne, but many people do and the title of the thread is "Why is skiing in France so expensive?" not "Let's discuss atraherne's cheap holiday arrangements"
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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atraherne, it doesn't include the locos but matrix.itasoftware.com is a front end to one of the underlying airline pricing systems. Although I think it's now owned by Google. I find it quite helpful...
Otherwise Kayak.co.uk is quite comprehensive.
All that said, sometimes for a complicated itinerary, you have to go and visit a real, live, travel agent.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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atraherne, but many people do and the title of the thread is "Why is skiing in France so expensive?" not "Let's discuss atraherne's cheap holiday arrangements"
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I think I have made a good contribution to the thread "Why is skiing in France so expensive?" Part of the discussion was understanding the incurred cost of going elsewhere to therefore see some of the value of skiing in France.
You asked me to elaborate on my comment "Plus you would spend at least 10X travel costs to North America than to Alps", I did / even got some prices to back up my claim. Then you post a silly comment...
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atraherne, it doesn't include the locos but matrix.itasoftware.com is a front end to one of the underlying airline pricing systems. Although I think it's now owned by Google. I find it quite helpful...
Otherwise Kayak.co.uk is quite comprehensive.
All that said, sometimes for a complicated itinerary, you have to go and visit a real, live, travel agent.
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Are have a look into that at some point. Thanks.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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atraherne, what's "silly" is claiming it's 10x when anyone who has ever travelled stateside and to the alps knows it isn't. I took Sat-Sat 11-18 Jan on easyJet to GVA and got a price of £171 inc baggage and skis (that, I have to tell you is a typical price these days on a Saturday and it gets pricier Feb, March, April). Did same dates for Heathrow to Denver on BA and it's £774.
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seem to be missing about 2 years'worth of it here
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I just checked again. On the official Easyjet website this time; price for those dates £59.98. That said I see there are extra charges for luggage.
Last couple flight trips have been last minute packages + sometimes drive.
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Just reading it, its no different to what I thought. You have a 20kg limit plus carry on luggage. I travel within 20kg including ski boots, I usually rent skis, so that would be the price for me.
Anyway, as fun as this has been. I really need to check out of this forum and get back to work.
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atraherne, Ok, bye. I just picked lunchtime flights like you said. Add baggage at £20 and skis £27 each way. It soon adds up. But if you can go skiing with just your hand luggage and get that price on a Saturday (which is when most need to travel) then good luck to you.
If I want to get to Denver then that's the price. I don't recognise it as a lot of money (but then I put it down as business travel )
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| atraherne wrote: |
Just reading it, its no different to what I thought. You have a 20kg limit plus carry on luggage. I travel within 20kg including ski boots, I usually rent skis, so that would be the price for me.
Anyway, as fun as this has been. I really need to check out of this forum and get back to work. |
No, you pay for the luggage on EJ.
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Thanks Bode Swiller though however for making a lot of drama out of nothing!
The price you quote for London to Denver against the £59.98 is in fact more than 10X the cost! Its actually nearer to 13X
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ok I read again, give me another few mins
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They allow 20kg, included in price. I know this because I flew with Easyjet to Geneva just a few months back in April. If you are over-weight it can cost a lot on the day but there is the opportunity to buy extra bags at a "discount rate" in advance.
Really Bode Swiller. I have wasted a lot of my time on this now, I really must get back to work.
I am checking out of this forum however I am sure you will get the last word once I am gone.
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much on Wed 31-07-13 16:22; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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atraherne, I'm amazed you have a job to get back to. Try going through the motions on the EJ site and you'll see you have to add and pay for hold luggage. That's not the last word, that's just the way it is.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Still confused about the thread resurrection.
France vs not-France debate will never go away.
Anyway, I'm going to Austria. Nicer beer there.
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Poster: A snowHead
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andy, + 10x
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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atraherne, you're wrong about the EJ luggage policy - you can take quite a heavy hand bag provided you can lift it into an overhead locker and it fits in the cage. But you pay for all hold baggage - and that's been the case for quite a time. And that is also the policy for some British Air flights now - out of Gatwick, for example to Genoa.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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atraherne, I'm amazed you have a job to get back to. Try going through the motions on the EJ site and you'll see you have to add and pay for hold luggage. That's not the last word, that's just the way it is.
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Ok, I have had another look. You are right, they are charging £20 for up to 20kg. When I flew it was within a package therefore 20kg included.
Surprisingly deceptive.
£58 becomes £78, still roughly 10X.
Believe it or not you don't have my un-dived attention, I am multi tasking several things at once.
All of this drama could have been avoided had I of said dramatically more rather than 10X, even though 10X isn't such a far removed statement. Clearly Bode Swiller is an anal character who also uses the internet to make sly bitchy comments.
Before Bode Swiller the discussion was sound and on point!
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I've asked this question before, but I might as well ask it again: why are you all bothering to waste your time eating spaghetti bolognese (student fodder FFS) in piste-side restaurants when you're getting breakfast, afternoon cake and a multiple course evening meal in your chalets? No wonder you're all fat.
atraherne, I've done that Vancouver flights price comparison as well, and I'd agree with you, broadly speaking. No doubt people manage to get deals, but in general 10x doesn't seem a ridiculous claim.
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Lizzard, not everyone stays in a catered chalet you know.
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Hells Bells, true, and even if I do, I tend to have very little breakfast and no cake, it suits me better to have a rest and something to eat at lunchtime. (But not spag bol, chips and coke from a 'self' in France!)
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| Lizzard wrote: |
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In the real world it is though. Just looked at Feb half term - EJ to GVA I'm getting £495 (not including skis) yet BA to Denver is £777. You see a lot of people on here quoting £200+ for getting to/from Geneva, Salzburg etc on week-ends. Very few get away with paying £59 or whatever.
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Lizzard, and Vancouver is £736.
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Bode Swiller, who said anything about half term? European prices that week aren't normal and we all know it.
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Lizzard, Loads of people are restricted to school holidays. So that is "normal" for many. Feb half term is the extreme example, I agree, but I take your 10 times and trump it with my 1.57 times.
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