 Poster: A snowHead
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Ah buggerations. I'm still unsure whether or not to book something this weekend, for 19th/20th for a week. And if so, VT, Meribel, or around the 1850 area.
When both funds and ski time are limited simple decisions like this become all bloody consuming!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@t40ora, come! There's plenty of good snow about. Base yourself in Meribel and you'll have easy access to wherever has the best conditions each day 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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06Z shows similar to 00Z, around the 15th precipitation, but FL still a little high for the lower resorts
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| Raceplate wrote: |
| @letsgetpiste, VT in Dec /Jan can be very cold, windblown and suffer from low cloud so yes, yellow lenses can be good. Trouble with 3V's though is that the weather can change dramatically over 2-3 hours so photochromic lenses are the best. I recommend Bolle modulators. |
Even with modulators I found myself confined to watching Zig & Sharko on French TV when I was there in January. A better skier might have been able to make more of the conditions, but there was so little definition in the snow that I just couldn't ski at all 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Raceplate,
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@t40ora, come! There's plenty of good snow about. Base yourself in Meribel and you'll have easy access to wherever has the best conditions each day
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That is sort of becoming my thought. There should still be enough about to get me out of Meribel? I don't mind taking the lift back in during the evening....
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@t40ora, you won't have any problem getting out of Meribel and you won't need to take the lift back. There is copious snowmaking and they always keep some key pistes closed until Xmas week specifically to make sure they're not worn out.The main route in to the Chaudanne from Courchevel is fine at the moment but the other side is closed to protect it. There is snow on it, though.
If you're concerned at all book Mottaret rather than Meribel. Even better access but less nightlife. They've remodeled the access this year too so it's much friendlier at the end of the day
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Surely if the snow is not so good for Christmas week people will all travel from Meribel to VT so basing yourself there just means you get stuck with the crowds in the morning/afternoon?? Mottaret or VT must make more sense for that week if booking now.
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| Millom wrote: |
| Surely if the snow is not so good for Christmas week people will all travel from Meribel to VT so basing yourself there just means you get stuck with the crowds in the morning/afternoon?? |
The uninitiated will. The clever ones will follow the sun around the Meribel valley and then ski Les Menuires in the afternoon. The snow in both those places will be better than VT unless it dumps down. I'm out here now and LM has easily got the grippiest snow plus as usual it's dead The snow in VT is very hard packed and icy in comparison.
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@Millom, would agree. If this year is panning out like last year then that will be the case. It's been both warm and pretty light on the snow. If next week's forecast snow doesn't dramatically change things then VT would have to be the place for a 3vs trip imho.
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@Raceplate ... or might the really initiated and clever ones actually stay in VT and then ski in the 4th valley earlier in the day returning to VT once some of the crowds head back home to their own valleys! 
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@Millom, I would ordinarily agree but this time last year Orelle was nearly unskiable. I will be there tomorrow or Saturday so will try to have a look at as much of the 3vs as I can.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Millom, if it doesn't snow the runs off Bouchet will be lethal and there's no base to ski off the back. The red off the top of Bouchet is the only place I've ever seen the French restrict access to one skier at a time because it was so icy!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Cool Raceplate...where did you go? I'll be in La Tania Sunday and am wondering what direction is best?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Millom wrote: |
So where in Meribel/Les Menuires is the new lift to 3241m? |
Cime Caron or Sommet Des 3 Valees.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| matejp wrote: |
| Millom wrote: |
So where in Meribel/Les Menuires is the new lift to 3241m? |
Cime Caron or Sommet Des 3 Valees. |
These are in VT and 4th Valley Raceplate doesn't go there.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Millom, I suggest you re-read my posts. I haven't said I don't go to VT, I said it doesn't have the best snow at the moment. That won't change unless it dumps which the forecasts say is unlikely.
It also has very limited options on bad weather days because everyone is going the same way. If you stay in the Meribel valley you have options every day and people choose different directions.
Enjoy your ignorance. 
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| Raceplate wrote: |
| @Millom,Enjoy your ignorance. |
Ouch!
P.S. Planning a few hours in Dubai ski dome next month. Followed by week in Tignes, and week in VT.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| maddness wrote: |
| Cool Raceplate...where did you go? I'll be in La Tania Sunday and am wondering what direction is best? |
I'm around LT from Sunday too. Somewhat Billy no mates, so up for a ski if you like. I'm happy on most of what will be open
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| Raceplate wrote: |
@Millom, I suggest you re-read my posts. I haven't said I don't go to VT, I said it doesn't have the best snow at the moment. That won't change unless it dumps which the forecasts say is unlikely.
It also has very limited options on bad weather days because everyone is going the same way. If you stay in the Meribel valley you have options every day and people choose different directions.
Enjoy your ignorance. |
Let's see how the weather does for Meribel in the next 2 weeks. Don't contradict yourself then you won't sound silly.
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VT's chairs aren't nicknamed the freezer and the icebox for nothing
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Ahh but its not the same now, wasn't there a chair up where the Grand Fond Funitel is now? I went up it. Once. And then ignored that whole sector for several years.
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Well that's done then. Meribel it is, flying out on the 20th. Save some wrote stuff for us please.
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*white*
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| andyrew wrote: |
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VT's chairs aren't nicknamed the freezer and the icebox for nothing
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Ahh but its not the same now, wasn't there a chair up where the Grand Fond Funitel is now? I went up it. Once. And then ignored that whole sector for several years. |
It was two chairs and then a long push at 3000m into Roseal!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| stevew wrote: |
| andyrew wrote: |
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VT's chairs aren't nicknamed the freezer and the icebox for nothing
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Ahh but its not the same now, wasn't there a chair up where the Grand Fond Funitel is now? I went up it. Once. And then ignored that whole sector for several years. |
It was two chairs and then a long push at 3000m into Roseal! |
I always thought the nicknames referred to Moraine and Col which are both still there and both still slow and freezing. I'm not a VT local though so happy to be corrected?
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You know it makes sense.
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Deep joy. Trip booked, arrivée on the 20th.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@t40ora, good for you. Plenty to ski and lots of options from your base. Merry Xmas! 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Arrived in VT today, though not had chance to ski yet; i will try to report back what I find during my stay.
If anyone fancies an amble about during the week I'd by happy to meet up.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Raceplate, thank's. Irrespective of the conditions, I'll be having a bloody good Christmas.
And a merry one to you too!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowsmog wrote: |
Arrived in VT today, though not had chance to ski yet; i will try to report back what I find during my stay.
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Enjoy your trip @snowsmog!! Looking forward to some more first hand reports!!  [/b]
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| t40ora wrote: |
| Deep joy. Trip booked, arrivée on the 20th. |
Got yourself a white Christmas!! Enjoy!!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| offpisteskiing wrote: |
A few piccies from around Val T today
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Thanks for the photos @offpisteskiing!!
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And I can sadly confirm the existence of the Lory piste... oh well...
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@letsgetpiste, the 3 Vs already have an alleged 600kms of piste*
The Bouchet Valley via the Col Pierre Lory was a classic mellow off piste route that required a little bit of effort to get in to. Even after the high Orelle chairs went in it was still a quiet off piste route, with some good steeper variations available from the chair. Now there is not only a zip line over the top but a piste down the middle. Why the need for the constant expansion when the area is already massive. Why not leave some long off piste runs for those who don't want corduroy?
Next they will be pisteing the Lac du Lou and Combe Sans Nom.
(* there is a whole can of worms to be opened regarding claimed piste lengths in various resorts but that is for another time...)
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@offpisteskiing, My only experience has really been on "cordurouy", so pisted slopes are my only real measure when it comes to a resort.
I get the impression that the Bouchet Valley was an old favourite of yours and that there was little benefit to spoiling it...
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What a pity the Lory route is now pisted. Kind of counter intuitive, more and more people on fat skis and less and less off piste routes left natural.
Maybe the lift company wanted another way back to Orelle in case the Caron cable is not available?
Leave the Lou alone!!!
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@letsgetpiste, so anything skiable should be pisted and there should be no off piste left? It's not like there is a shortage of pisted runs to enjoy in the three valleys.
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The Bouchet valley was/is my favourite route in the 3v. The feeling of solitude and really being away from it all was terrific so I'm in the disappointed camp too
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