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| Jellybeans1000 wrote: |
| @Ptspeak @Run28 ATM looks like 30-50cm to Next Monday |
@gores95 This.
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@Skiwi 55 It is just like the GFS you see on Wetterzentrale and Meteociel, allowing for Physics. It also has GEM to compare which is good. So the same reliablility as GFS, not written by any human.
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Enjoy @Tim Heeney, I've got dozens of more links like it 
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Check out the snowfall forecast to hit California over the next 7 days!
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Very windy here in Gressoney - going back to bed
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Eastern Europe is going to get absolutely blasted with snow. There already were 60-100cm right before New Years.
31.12 in Bulgaria:
100 or so more starting today.
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@Jellybeans1000, thanks for that.
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Eastern Europe has been well-documented over the past few pages, does anyone knowledgeable have any views on the next 7 days for western and Southern Europe?
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@davidof, what are the implications of "bise" conditions?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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mr_merc
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Eastern Europe has been well-documented over the past few pages, does anyone knowledgeable have any views on the next 7 days for western and Southern Europe?
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Go back a page and there are some charts including Chamonix.
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You know it makes sense.
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@pam w,
We often have bise conditions in the Alps. Cold north easterly wind that turns northerly the further west it goes to become the mistral. It's generally cold. Sometimes it leads to clear weather; we had a long period of bise for example before Xmas, and sometimes grey and overcast, like today. It normally follows a fronts passage and is often dry.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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"Avec la bise lave ta chemise" though of course that's summer, when the dry bise is handy when you hang out your washing. The bise is the north wind, and it tends to be dry. In winter, cold and dry.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| pam w wrote: |
| @davidof, what are the implications of "bise" conditions? |
Think a tad chilly 
My club still has a big ski tour for tomorrow (1,100m elevation) but I think that's a wee bit silly to attempt with the wind's that are forecast, and there will be other days, so I can wait.
There is another tour scheduled for Sat on NE slopes and it's more technical but again think will wait to see what these winds might do to what is left up top on N/NE slopes - could be that they might not be too affected by the winds from the North but there again you don't know how much snow could be transported to the ridges.
Not much wind in the valley here at the moment and just been looking up top but difficult to see as not too much snow to be blown about and too early for lifts to start up there yet.
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@mr_merc, if there has been discussion of the eastern Alps, rather than eastern Europe, that has been because that is where the snow is forecast to fall in the next week. Some of that will reach the western end of Switzerland, little will reach France, very little will get to the southern Alps. The third frame in the link below shows this well.
http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html
At present the mid third of the month suggests some possibilities of snow for the northern Alps more broadly, but it's far from certain at this point.
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@MattHugo81 on a problematic winter so far for long term forecasts.
"... A week by week scenario to be honest now no matter what may well be 'most likely' longer term. Too many failures this winter already."
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LWD Salzburg on the rapidly worsening Avalanche risk in the region as the snow arrives this afternoon (my bold).
"Heavy snowfall, storm winds, plummeting temperatures. As much as 100 cm new fallen snow in the next 48 hours. Abruptly developing snowdrift scenario above the treeline. Potential fracture points: soft, sugary snow layers inside snowpack above 2200 m and snow-covered hoar."
http://www.lawine.salzburg.at/lageberichte/lb_2017-01-04.html?lang=en_UK
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Second by second even. Zermatt website says currently possible light localised snow. Webcams showing all except the village getting a right pasting
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| ........Not much wind in the valley here at the moment and just been looking up top but difficult to see as not too much snow to be blown about and too early for lifts to start up there yet......... |
Wind kicking in now big time in the valley and can see it blowing hard up top - should imagine chairs will be shut soon, though nice and sunny but not very pleasant at all!
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| pam w wrote: |
| @davidof, what are the implications of "bise" conditions? |
Very cold ! Or in Val d'Isere's case, the lifts are partially closed today at altitude.
Other than that, wind loading onto south facing slopes, there is a lot of facetted snow around after the unprecedented dry, cold period.
Be very careful if any snowfall predictions come true when skiing off piste, it will be explosive, as we saw on the French/Italian border last week after the retour d'est - the weak layer was so fragile there were even some large hard slabs being triggered above Serre Chevalier and lots of remote triggering. Really this is not a time to be "storm chasing" but more of hunkering down and maybe skiing the meadows where there wasn't snow previously.
Hard slab on north side of Granon
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 4-01-17 10:07; edited 1 time in total
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@twoodwar, Bergfex has 20-30cm at altitude for Zermatt over next couple of days and about half that in the valley.
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After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January.
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From Meteo Chance Based on arepege model:
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QUANTITIES OF SNOW EXPECTED BETWEEN WEDNESDAY 18:00 AND THURSDAY 12:00:
- 5 to 10 cm of snow from 800 meters on Haute-Savoyard reliefs, including Aravis, Aiguilles-Rouges, heights of Mont-Blanc (less in the valley of Chamonix), Haut-Faucigny, locally 15 cm on the heights of Haut-Chablais,
As well as on the North-West of the Vercors (Massif des Coulmes).
- 2 to 5 cm of snow from 1000 meters on Lauzière, Bauges, Vercors, Chartreuse, Beaufortain, Belledonne, Vanoise, Tarentaise. Locally 10 cm on the north slopes of the Beaufortain and the North of Belledonne (Haut-Bréda sector).
- 1 to 3 cm everywhere else or even just a few flakes that float in Oisans and Haute-Maurienne through the Maurienne.
In plains and low-valleys the flakes should simply flutter from time to time although a small sprinkling is not excluded from the Annecy side, from the Haute-Savoyard plains and up to the Nord-Isere.
Let us note that these are estimates and that the precipitations are mainly orographic in nature, that is to say that they will mainly affect the massifs oriented to the North clearly leaving the valleys just below.
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basically PdS will be a bit whiter and much more skiable on piste, elsewhere, not so much.
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| nozawaonsen wrote: |
| After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January. |
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Drew Carey wrote: |
| nozawaonsen wrote: |
| After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January. |
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!). |
Hear hear, I have a trip to Alpe D'Huez booked for the 21st and am growing increasingly worried... At this point I'll take whatever snow I can get!
Thanks to those who post the daily updates and forecasts though. Although I'm going insane reading them, they are very interesting none the less!
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Could this be what MF have picked up on?
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You know it makes sense.
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Drew Carey wrote:
nozawaonsen wrote:
After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January.
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!).
Hear hear, I have a trip to Alpe D'Huez booked for the 21st and am growing increasingly worried... At this point I'll take whatever snow I can get!
Thanks to those who post the daily updates and forecasts though. Although I'm going insane reading them, they are very interesting none the less!
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We are arriving in Alpe D'Huez the same day! Agree that this thread is very useful, just praying for a big dump in the next two weeks.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Now side debate - is it clutching or grasping at straws - and are said "straws" dried grass or drinking accessories
Top lifts now shut and resort gondolas now shut - going out for a windy walk with Les Chiens - though they did do nigh on 12km yesterday
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Drew Carey wrote: |
| nozawaonsen wrote: |
| After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January. |
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!). |
I think it's going to eastern/northern Alps and not France - Austria main beneficiary this week and next it would seem at the moment
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buchanan101
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Drew Carey wrote:
nozawaonsen wrote:
After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January.
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!). snowHead
I think it's going to eastern/northern Alps and not France - Austria main beneficiary this week and next it would seem at the moment
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Isn't the Northern Alps in France? PdS?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
| I think it's going to eastern/northern Alps and not France - Austria main beneficiary this week and next it would seem at the moment |
GFS / GEM both showing more than a sprinkle for next week for Trois Vallees (looking at the Ventusky website Monsieur Jellybean provided). Various apps / websites which use this data also showing the same thing......obviously, a week away - will likely change and be dry / warm and everything melted!!!!
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| mheadbee wrote: |
Isn't the Northern Alps in France? PdS? |
very much western Alps in my opinion...
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| Drew Carey wrote: |
| buchanan101 wrote: |
| I think it's going to eastern/northern Alps and not France - Austria main beneficiary this week and next it would seem at the moment |
GFS / GEM both showing more than a sprinkle for next week for Trois Vallees (looking at the Ventusky website Monsieur Jellybean provided). Various apps / websites which use this data also showing the same thing......obviously, a week away - will likely change and be dry / warm and everything melted!!!! |
This site that someone posted is fascinating, and indeed showing a bit more, but Switz and Austria seem to be getting the most. Still a week away, and the two main engines seem to be differing a fair bit
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=46.5;4.3;4&l=rain-3h&t=20170111/12&m=gem&w=0QEQYp_5B
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buchanan101
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Drew Carey wrote:
nozawaonsen wrote:
After the snowfall arrives this evening and tomorrow GFS has a further band of snow for the eastern Alps on Monday before a more substantial fall of snow across the northern Alps on 10/11 January.
Its this band forecasted on 10/11 that really interests me......keeping everything crossed that it gives the Trois Vallees an aesthetic sprinkling at the very least (as a newbie going on 15th, just would love my first trip to not resemble going down monochromatic golf fairways!!!). snowHead
I think it's going to eastern/northern Alps and not France - Austria main beneficiary this week and next it would seem at the moment
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Isn't the Northern Alps in France? PdS? |
Northern Alps are anywhere on the north side of the main alpine chain (further split into west, east and central). However more generally refers to Austria, simply being more north than pretty much anywhere in the French Alps. PDS would be the northern part of the western Alps in my book - and apparently too west to do particularly well from this particular storm.
Personally I'd split it roughly like this (some would probably move the west/east divide further west, but in a weather context I'd personally put the Arlberg more in north west than north east):
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 4-01-17 13:44; edited 1 time in total
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clarky999
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Nice one.
I am more looking at the hopeful 11th Jan one which is saying potential to the Northern Alps. I think this immediate one might turn a few roofs white is the the PdS.
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Any website that is claiming the northern alps are solely in France is completely wrong. Check the map in my post above.
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