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Things I don’t get about (other people) skiing

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Oh it's well developed. I'm a middle aged, menopausal wumman. I just try and hide it a bit better on holiday. Toofy Grin
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ElzP wrote:
massistar wrote:
groups stopping just at the exit points of chairlifts


I don't get this! Just shift along a bit if you need to faff!

I don't understand people who like to tick off the most difficult pistes in a resort, even if they've just 'got down them' and probably caused a danger to themselves or others. Toofy Grin I don't understand where the fun is in doing something that is terrifying (though maybe that's the trick - they don't find it terrifying!)


the most annoying is people they gather together and wait before a steep part of slope. You stopped also....they do nothing. You decided to go, the do the same

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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turms2 wrote:
ElzP wrote:
massistar wrote:
groups stopping just at the exit points of chairlifts


I don't get this! Just shift along a bit if you need to faff!

I don't understand people who like to tick off the most difficult pistes in a resort, even if they've just 'got down them' and probably caused a danger to themselves or others. Toofy Grin I don't understand where the fun is in doing something that is terrifying (though maybe that's the trick - they don't find it terrifying!)


the most annoying is people they gather together and wait before a steep part of slope. You stopped also....they do nothing. You decided to go, the do the same

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


Absolutely!! And if it's steep and they're all perched across the top, it's just enough time fighting through them for my head to wonder WHY they've stopped and what monster lurks down that slope... Evil or Very Mad
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massistar wrote:
Oh it's well developed. I'm a middle aged, menopausal wumman. I just try and hide it a bit better on holiday. Toofy Grin
I am all of the above, I hide it all the time.
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massistar wrote:
pisteoff wrote:
Twin tip skis (without very good reason) ...


Very Happy My son skis in twin tips with no poles. You'd really hate him. In his defence he does a lot of jumps and tricks.

That's fine - It's good to see enthusiasm etc ... in the category of 'what I don't get is' - I don't like following someone on twin tips (spray) who doesn't use them, nor the faff of loading into a gondola etc ...
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Twin tip skis (without very good reason) ...
I constantly curse my twin tips and the grief they cause me with gondolas, but spyderjon insisted that in every other respect they were the perfect ski for me and he was right. Sorry.
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ElzP wrote:
massistar wrote:
groups stopping just at the exit points of chairlifts


I don't get this! Just shift along a bit if you need to faff!

I don't understand people who like to tick off the most difficult pistes in a resort, even if they've just 'got down them' and probably caused a danger to themselves or others. Toofy Grin I don't understand where the fun is in doing something that is terrifying (though maybe that's the trick - they don't find it terrifying!)


One person's terrifying is another's moderately exiting Very Happy
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@tangowaggon, and I guess one person's perfect (a long, wide, empty and snowy blue/mild red, yes please all day long!) is another person's boring!
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massistar wrote:
pisteoff wrote:
Twin tip skis (without very good reason) ...


My son skis in twin tips with no poles. You'd really hate him. In his defence he does a lot of jumps and tricks.

That's fine - It's good to see enthusiasm etc ... in the category of 'what I don't get is' - I don't like following someone on twin tips (spray) who doesn't use them, nor the faff of loading into a gondola etc ...

Is me. Hope you're recovered from Gressoney @pisteoff
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pisteoff wrote:

That's fine - It's good to see enthusiasm etc ... in the category of 'what I don't get is' - I don't like following someone on twin tips (spray) who doesn't use them, nor the faff of loading into a gondola etc ...


If you're close enough to get roosted you're too close. Though it is quite amusing to cut sharply in front of a friend on a spring slope.
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People referring to powder as 'pow-pow'. It makes my teeth hurt.
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People refering to any new snow as "Powder", or even worse resorts referring to conditions as "Powder Hard" rolling eyes
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ElzP wrote:
@tangowaggon, and I guess one person's perfect (a long, wide, empty and snowy blue/mild red, yes please all day long!) is another person's boring!


I don't really find any slope boring if it is empty, I just do different things. Crowded slopes are boring/irritating but there are usually alternatives.

Probably the least enjoyable slopes are pisted blacks, too steep to be carving without hitting warp speed (unless they are very wide) & not really challenging otherwise.
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People faffing. Do not understand how it can take so long to get "ready" for skiing. Some people fuss far too much.

Lapping the same short piste over and over. I much prefer getting to the peak and then skiing as much vertical as possible.

People wanting to go home and get ready before going for a drink. That's not apres.

Hot tubs.
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tangowaggon wrote:
ElzP wrote:
@tangowaggon, and I guess one person's perfect (a long, wide, empty and snowy blue/mild red, yes please all day long!) is another person's boring!


I don't really find any slope boring if it is empty, I just do different things. Crowded slopes are boring/irritating but there are usually alternatives.

Probably the least enjoyable slopes are pisted blacks, too steep to be carving without hitting warp speed (unless they are very wide) & not really challenging otherwise.


I sort of agree. Except when they have narrower sections or camber which adds some variety and fun. That said I do quite enjoy aggressive short turns on a consistent steep pitch which a pisted black often provides, By that I mean grippy turns, essentially carving the last third.

But I am with you, no slope is really boring unless crowded and as you say it simply a matter of adjusting how you approach it. For the same reason I don't get the obsession with 100's of kms of piste, as if repeating a run is boring. Utter nonsense in my view.
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Things I don’t get about (other people) skiing

Lack of spacial awareness is pretty much the main thing for me.

So spacial awareness. Big subject, here's just three examples. Obviously I'm not talking about beginners or those out of control for any reason.
People seem to switch off their peripheral vision. For example they have no idea, or just don't care at junctions if there are others on a collision course. Just think about driving through a crossroads without looking.
They set off without first looking (would you pull out of a junction without looking when driving your car?)
They veer about all over the place with their brains tied to a seeming random curve generator. Would you do this on the road?

Honestly people, just use a bit of common will you?

I suppose one more thing I don't get is I don't get why people say they love skiing but don't get lessons to improve beyond the ability to snowplough. A thing is so much more enjoyable the better you get at it surely?

Everything else I understand, might not agree with but I can understand it.

Just me ranting!
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I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,
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biddpyat wrote:
I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,


Best mountains
Biggest choice
Best culture
Best language
Best apres (controversial but it's less forced for me/more organic and just as lairy if you go to the seassonnaire spots)
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Ryunis wrote:
biddpyat wrote:
I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,


Best mountains
Biggest choice
Best culture
Best language
Best apres (controversial but it's less forced for me/more organic and just as lairy if you go to the seassonnaire spots)


Oh dear. I had previously commented that it was surprising we had got to page 3 of this thread without this type of comment, sadly we didn't make it beyond page 5 Sad

In the interests of a balanced argument, I hate everything about France wink
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@ajpaul, @pam w, @PowderAdict, yes indeed. Although it does have the advantage of immediately spotting the jerrys, who pile into the Rosee Blanche at 4.30, banging on about the pow when it hasn't snowed for weeks (or is rotten heavy leg breaking stuff) , and invariably still proudly wearing their transceivers at 6pm.
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gixxerniknik wrote:
Just think about driving through a crossroads without looking.
They set off without first looking (would you pull out of a junction without looking when driving your car?)
They veer about all over the place with their brains tied to a seeming random curve generator. Would you do this on the road?

Honestly people, just use a bit of common will you?

Unfortunately drivers do all of these things, at least where I drive.

I've long had a theory that people walk how they drive, and this probably applies to their skiing as well. The old "Mirror, Signal, Manoeuvre", has largely become "Manoeuvre, Mirror", with the mirror part only applying after they nearly hit or are hit by something.

As for common sense, it really isn't that common rolling eyes
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Helmets with stick-on Mohawks or animal ears on anyone over the age of 8.

@Ryunis, I’ll see your hot tubs and raise you saunas… pointless, sweaty, wooden boxes. Probably invented in WWII as a means of torture.

People who buy bottled water at the top of a mountain.

Mrs dode wants to add that she doesn’t get:
1. Mile hungry braggers that never stop to smell the roses and are constantly posting their app data on social media.
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biddpyat wrote:
I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,

Serre Chevalier, last week on the sopib
No queues
Perfect range of pistes from well groomed cruisers to gnarly, unpisted blacks.
Large amount of lift accessible offpiste.
Affordable apres ski 6 -7 €/pint
Nice villages & towns to stay in

The only downside is the affordable mountain food is typical for most French resorts, only edible if you really need to eat, though having said that, I had a massive, enjoyable assiete montagnarde for 22€
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@Legend., I’m not saying anything about enjoying only what I want, just not imposing my choices on others.
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People that use "Epic" and "Awesome" to describe an average to good day.

Skiers who have been skiing a good few years who.........

Merrily happy slide down a slope without even remotely think of trying to engage an edge.

Same said skiers that will think that they can actually carve.

As above skiers who make no attempt to face down the fall-line, happily twisting their torso in the direction of their skis across the slope.

As above, who make no attempt to unweight a ski in the turn.

Same said skiers who buy a new set of skis thinking that somehow that they will now magically carve the slope Laughing
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Precise, neat side slipping. A greatly underrated skill these days. snowHead
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my pet hate are those who have to tick off every run in the resort and can tell you the neme of each one years after
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Weathercam wrote:


As above skiers who make no attempt to face down the fall-line, happily twisting their torso in the direction of their skis across the slope.



Comedy Gold
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Ryunis wrote:
biddpyat wrote:
I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,


Best mountains
Biggest choice
Best culture
Best language
Best apres (controversial but it's less forced for me/more organic and just as lairy if you go to the seassonnaire spots)


I don't get people who think there is any such thing as "best" when it comes to mountains, language or culture. Preference I can get, but not blithely stating one country is "best".

I don't get people who are unable to see past France, or who think there is more skiing available within France than outside it. And who happily give "expert" advice to others on where they should go skiing, by default from a less than "expert" perspective.

France is a great country, I like the culture, language and food. And there are some amazing mountains and ski resorts there. But a quick check of the map would suggest much of the Alps are not in France, and that other mountain ranges also exist in Europe, let alone all the choices available in North America (or South America for that matter), Japan, Lebanon the list goes on and on.
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zikomo wrote:


And who happily give "expert" advice to others on where they should go skiing, by default from a less than "expert" perspective.



There are many on here who that applies to about skiing in general
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Skiers who sneer at people they feel are less skilled than themselves.
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gixxerniknik wrote:
Quote:

Things I don’t get about (other people) skiing

Lack of spacial awareness is pretty much the main thing for me.

So spacial awareness. Big subject, here's just three examples. Obviously I'm not talking about beginners or those out of control for any reason.
People seem to switch off their peripheral vision. For example they have no idea, or just don't care at junctions if there are others on a collision course. Just think about driving through a crossroads without looking.
They set off without first looking (would you pull out of a junction without looking when driving your car?)
They veer about all over the place with their brains tied to a seeming random curve generator. Would you do this on the road?

Honestly people, just use a bit of common will you?

I suppose one more thing I don't get is I don't get why people say they love skiing but don't get lessons to improve beyond the ability to snowplough. A thing is so much more enjoyable the better you get at it surely?

Everything else I understand, might not agree with but I can understand it.

Just me ranting!


Laughing Laughing Laughing

How do you know, for example, if that skier “veering” all over the piste isn’t a local who understands the terrain and knows where the best snow/skiing condition is on any given day or time of day on a piste they may know like the back of their hand. Unlike a road, there aren’t lanes along which one has to ski…. Laughing
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pam w wrote:
Skiers who sneer at people they feel are less skilled than themselves.


Yeah, that one is definitely difficult to understand. Sad
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DaveD wrote:
my pet hate are those who have to tick off every run in the resort and can tell you the neme of each one years after


They're just weird! I know someone like that, definitely on the spectrum Laughing
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pam w wrote:
Skiers who sneer at people they feel are less skilled than themselves.

This…
Andy.
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Restless native wrote:
pam w wrote:
Skiers who sneer at people they feel are less skilled than themselves.

This…
Andy.


Anyone who sneers full stop.
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Ryunis wrote:
biddpyat wrote:
I don't understand why everyone wants to ski in France, huge ques, all of the listed whinges apply to france,


Best mountains
Biggest choice
Best culture
Best language
Best apres (controversial but it's less forced for me/more organic and just as lairy if you go to the seassonnaire spots)


All a bit subjective. I'll also subjectively add in "support" of France

Expensive or crap or both, food on the mountain
The French
Worst of the English
^^ see also university ski trips
Big resorts get hugely over-crowded at popular times
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tangowaggon wrote:
+1 for saunas, after sweating on the mountain all day, why enter a place specifically to sweat even more?


I love a good sauna after a hard day on the slopes, and I'm now wondering if that's part of why a lively après scene is something I'm not fussed about. An hour or two of sauna cycles (sweat; dunk in cold water; relax with something to read; repeat) while rehydrating well does wonders for my muscles (and exposed skin) after a hard day (even more so if I've still got any lingering stiffness from the journey). After that I'm ready for an aperitif, but I certainly don't want more than a single drink (if that) beforehand.
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