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Linds, Genepi mumblings are even more perfound 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I must admit to being something of a perfectionist - if I can't 'crack it' within a reasonable time then I won't enjoy doing it. I'm not used to finding something I can't do. It was like that with the advanced driving test - I wasn't keen on the instructor - he quite got up my nose and made me really annoyed. In the finish I thought don't get annoyed get even - learn to drive the way he wants you to. So I got my head round it and was soon driving in the approved way. Skiing will be the same - when I get to point when I get cross with myself for being incapable of sorting it out the fear of the fall line will vanish - I'm sure when it happens the technique will rapidly develop.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The other way around. Tail wagging dog currently.
Technique will give you control.
Control will give you confidence.
Confidence will give you speed.
Speed will encourage you to embrace the fall line.
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I ski for many reasons, mainly enjoyment but wish to improve so I can enjoy more.
The idea that you should only ski those runs on which you can fluently link turns though does not ring true with either what I do or what I enjoy doing.
I dont disagree that practising technique on runs that you can link turns on may be sensible but there is a lot more to skiing enjoyment than practising technique. Surely you should be learning how to deal with runs wher you can't link turns because you are bound ot come accross them and the tactics and techniques for coping with these are just as much learning to ski as are the techniques of linking turns. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| I must admit to being something of a perfectionist - if I can't 'crack it' within a reasonable time then I won't enjoy doing it. I'm not used to finding something I can't do. . |
Oh how I identify with that!!
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Well maybe I'm a slow learner but I reckon it took me 8 years of 2 or 3 week's holiday a year before I felt anywhere near having "cracked it" as you put it. That was when I started doing more "specialised" clinics than yer ESF etc. and realised that I had only just started to "crack it". Still learning and doing courses 15 years later.....
As for being "lazy", all I can say is that flowing down the fall line is a lot less tiring than fighting the mountain all your way down. Mountains usually have a size advantage and can be quite patient. So it's well worth learning to do it properly if you're a lazy sort.
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Megamum, find a child you need to watch. Seriously. I was skiing with my niece and nephew the other day in the following order: dad - son - mum - daughter - aunt. The need to keep an eye on my niece meant I couldn't do anything *but* look down the fall line. Genius. My skiing came on no end as a result. I didn't put a foot wrong (technically, I possibly did, but I mean I didn't wobble, I didn't worry about what I was doing, I just got on with it).
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clara_jo, Mmm...I see that. I was actually surprised to find that I could ski without looking at my feet when my instructor got me to look at him. Also, I found when my kids were on the same slope I was actually able to watch them and then didn't think about me so much. Whether for those moments my skiing improved I couldn't tell you!
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Umm my babies are 23 and 26 and both have left the nest! Mind you it'd be really good if my sister & tribe could afford to go skiing again - she's got three young'uns of 6, 8 and 10!
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| T Bar wrote: |
I ski for many reasons, mainly enjoyment but wish to improve so I can enjoy more.
The idea that you should only ski those runs on which you can fluently link turns though does not ring true with either what I do or what I enjoy doing.
I dont disagree that practising technique on runs that you can link turns on may be sensible but there is a lot more to skiing enjoyment than practising technique. Surely you should be learning how to deal with runs wher you can't link turns because you are bound ot come accross them and the tactics and techniques for coping with these are just as much learning to ski as are the techniques of linking turns. |
Oh, my! Please don't misunderstand me!
You can ski wherever you want however you want and enjoy yourself. There's no "right" or "wrong" in skiing.
My suggestion was simply that if you wanted to improve, linking turns is a key part of that, and it will likely mean dropping back in the difficulty of the terrain to practice some movements before taking them back to the steeper slopes. This is true at all levels. The US Ski Team spends time on groomed blue terrain skiing very slowly because it amplifies the weaknesses in their technique. I will often ski blue and green runs to practice movements before taking them to the blacks and double-blacks.
I did not mean to imply any sense of exclusivity. Only a recommendation of how to ramp up one's skill level.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| veeeight wrote: |
The other way around. Tail wagging dog currently.
Technique will give you control.
Control will give you confidence.
Confidence will give you speed.
Speed will encourage you to embrace the fall line. |
Excactly! Well said, veeeight. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Oh, my! Please don't misunderstand me!
You can ski wherever you want however you want and enjoy yourself. There's no "right" or "wrong" in skiing.
My suggestion was simply that if you wanted to improve, linking turns is a key part of that, and it will likely mean dropping back in the difficulty of the terrain to practice some movements before taking them back to the steeper slopes.
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Apologies, I probably did slightly misunderstand you or the tone of the thread. I just thought the tone of the thread was mildly censorious towards skiing in any way other than linking turns. It just struck me as somewhat didactic. I'm not disagreeing that this is a desirable way to ski and practise.
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You know it makes sense.
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Yoda, I agree. Especially if the turns are primarily rotary in nature (turning the feet to direct the skis in a new direction). It takes very high level skills to turn both feet at the same rate (making them appear parallel), and this is why many folks will wedge even when they aren't trying to do that.
However, when one learns to arc (carve without any skidding component), it can actually be more difficult to do it without parallel skis, since both skis are following an arc. So, if you are learning an edge-biased approach to skiing starting early, you may find yourself more parallel than you otherwise would be.
FWIW, the latter is my typical instructional path unless there are reasons to approach it differently.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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FAQ
Picking up on the above, apropos of the beginner's desire to "ski parallel" I believe it is actually technically very difficult to "ski parallel" at slow speeds. The forces that help you are just not there in sufficient magnitude, so more "skier input" is required. A skillful skier can do this in a subtle way so that most onlookers probably don't realise what they're doing.... 
