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@ski3, I love the concept of a "fully waterproof" shoe. How do I put my foot in if there isn't a huge great hole in it? Happy
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https://outdoorsmagic.com/article/best-walking-boots/

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/outdoor/1406011/best-walking-shoes-lightweight-outdoors-shoes-for-men-and-women

https://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/travel-outdoors/hiking/best-walking-boots-men-hiking-a9620056.html


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snowdave wrote:
@ski3, I love the concept of a "fully waterproof" shoe. How do I put my foot in if there isn't a huge great hole in it? Happy


Yes, I can see the anomaly there too. All the same until the water comes over the top in reality Very Happy it's always a surprise to me when anything matches fully it's waterproof claim in most materials though.
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snowdave wrote:
@ski3, I love the concept of a "fully waterproof" shoe. How do I put my foot in if there isn't a huge great hole in it? Happy
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DB wrote:


I wouldn't start with boots/footwear.


1. Go to a specialist and let him/her tell you what you need in terms of any orthotic insoles. They should also tell you what type of feet you have (low, medium high volume, pronation, high arches etc)

2. If you need insoles/a footbed then have one made.

3. Then search the 'tinternet for boots/footwear suitable for your volume foot and the terrain you will use them on.

e.g.

https://www.wellandgood.com/best-hiking-boots-wide-narrow-feet/

https://bootbomb.com/the-best-hiking-boots-for-men-and-women-comparison/the-best-hiking-shoes-for-men-and-women-with-wide-narrow-and-flat-feet-over-pronation/

https://hikingfeet.com/best-hiking-boots-for-narrow-feet/

4. Make a shortlist and find suppliers for footwear on the list.

5. Go and try various boots on with your insoles/footbeds and make a decision yourself.


@DB, Many thanks for the advice. It sounds similar to fitting ski boots. My memory is that the actual ski boot is standard but the fitter had to do a lot of pushing bits out and adding other bits in to make them fit comfortably. I might get in touch to see whether he remembers or has recorded what the issues were.


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Weathercam wrote:
.....and interesting to see that video of the Altra shoe and how that guy raves about it, and I really like, as I've already mentioned my Altra King MT 1.5 trail shoes which seemed to tick all the boxes.......


Mmmmm take that back, those trail shoes have a serious design floor in that the toe box though nice and wide, allows my big toe (nail) to rise up and it's now worn a wee hole in the shoe material, so out with the duck-tape, I've never had that happen over the many years and many shoes!!!
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Riccardo wrote:
DB wrote:


I wouldn't start with boots/footwear.


1. Go to a specialist and let him/her tell you what you need in terms of any orthotic insoles. They should also tell you what type of feet you have (low, medium high volume, pronation, high arches etc)

2. If you need insoles/a footbed then have one made.

3. Then search the 'tinternet for boots/footwear suitable for your volume foot and the terrain you will use them on.

e.g.

https://www.wellandgood.com/best-hiking-boots-wide-narrow-feet/

https://bootbomb.com/the-best-hiking-boots-for-men-and-women-comparison/the-best-hiking-shoes-for-men-and-women-with-wide-narrow-and-flat-feet-over-pronation/

https://hikingfeet.com/best-hiking-boots-for-narrow-feet/

4. Make a shortlist and find suppliers for footwear on the list.

5. Go and try various boots on with your insoles/footbeds and make a decision yourself.


@DB, Many thanks for the advice. It sounds similar to fitting ski boots. My memory is that the actual ski boot is standard but the fitter had to do a lot of pushing bits out and adding other bits in to make them fit comfortably. I might get in touch to see whether he remembers or has recorded what the issues were.


I went to a shop with a boot fitting service, and found that although my feet were pretty much standard in terms of length, width, arch etc; the issue is that the widest part of my foot is relatively far forward. As standard boots start to taper around the little toe, my feet are still quite wide and the tapering pushes my big toe into the tip. So, wide fitting. But some wide fittings still taper, so wide fitting with relatively square toe box. However my ankles are fashionably slim, so wide fitting with relatively square toe box but regular/slim heel.

The guy also taught me some laces tricks to take pressure off protruding bones, so a fantastic service and I was happy to pay for and walk out with the boots there and then, rather than mess about with trying to undercut them online. I'd thoroughly recommend Foothills of Sheffield if you're in the area or visiting the Peaks.

They didn't have what I wanted for lightweight shoes so that hunt will require more trial and error.
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@Riccardo,

Sounds like https://www.foothills.uk.com/ sorted you out.
Always easier to find another pair of well fitting boots/walking shoes once you have sourced the first as you get a feel for what fits and can compare any future footwear with the current (well fitting) pair.

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Excellent thread. Does anyone know of a walking boot that can be done up without laces ie for those of us who may have arthritic hands / fingers. (Am thinking of velcro or similar fastenings), have done lots of google searches but can't find anything
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@nahdendee, not quite a boot, but Salomon Speedcross has a pull cord and toggle type fastening. They do a Goretex version which is great as a lightweight walking shoe.
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@nahdendee,

Maybe try these

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Greeper-Hiker-No-Tie-Hiking-Walking/dp/B00IZEIVIQ?th=1&tag=amz07b-21

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N2ZEDRQ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B00N2ZEDRQp13NParams&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE4QzIySjQxRUVQU0gmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5OTE0OTgzSUpHQlYyM04zM0ZUJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5ODY4MTJCVUxVOVdQNFo3Ulkmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwyJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ%3D%3D&tag=amz07b-21

There's also the BOA system which might be easier for you
https://www.boafit.com/en-us/products/hike-mountaineering

Some more info ...
https://www.widefitshoes.co.uk/pages/shoes-for-arthritis

https://housingcare.org/downloads/kbase/2469.pdf
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@nahdendee, there used to be a product that were laced into boots thru the existing eyes then once in were zipped up. Seen them for service boots for a quick do up as the situation demanded but could fit the bill for you. Sorry, I can’t remember what they were called and haven’t needed to find them for a while, but army surplus outlets might have them.
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nahdendee wrote:
Excellent thread. Does anyone know of a walking boot that can be done up without laces ie for those of us who may have arthritic hands / fingers. (Am thinking of velcro or similar fastenings), have done lots of google searches but can't find anything


As you find, rather sparse field isn't it.

But found these from company that appears to offer constructions to meet specific demands in this area https://www.accuweather.com/shop/propet/mens-propet-r-cliff-walker-strap-hiking-boots-2b8bcb3f24bb4c3b9dc3a7e2aaf19b57-p.html

Look to be made in France but can't immediately see UK supply route.
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This sort of thing

https://www.blackwoods.com.au/footwear/footwear-accessories/oliver-zip-inserts-for-fire-and-mining-boots/c/308942815/208640178/variants
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@Riccardo, "They didn't have what I wanted for lightweight shoes so that hunt will require more trial and error."

The shoe I mentioned further up https://www.amazon.co.uk/TrekSta-Libero-Gore-TEX-Walking-Shoes/dp/B01DXJ7RVO?tag=amz07b-21 have the type of fit you've described in foot shape.

Foot shape similar to mine, I've found these an immediate good fit as I have real problems with conventional narrower and long shaped shoes.

The interior also is interesting from design point in that if you put a footprint into a sandy beach, then the shoe's structure (without the footbed) mimics this shape quite faithfully. This seems to be very good for fit and stability with minimal adapting from a shaped footbed into a more flat form shoe "hull" would make.
There's some very particular attention to detail that may warrant your interest in trying them for suitability.
Characteristic of the above description for wide forefoot equipped persons Very Happy you don't have to use a longer size to accommodate your foot shape without compromising that wider front dimension.

Keen shoes also have some styles with wider front section that may help too.
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I don't have that specific problem, but I haven't used laces for years, possibly decades. Some of my bike shoes have those "boa" things which work ok, but other stuff (mostly Keen because my feet are foot-shaped not fashion-people-shaped) I convert to the same concept. It's pretty easy to get after-market slightly elasticated "laces" with grip-lock things and those work fine for me.
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Thanks to all for your replies, will now undertake some more research with the info given
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@ski3, Many thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I can't find any available anywhere and I haven't been able to match one of the current line up as an obvious successor to that model. Interesting though...
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Riccardo wrote:
@ski3, Many thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I can't find any available anywhere and I haven't been able to match one of the current line up as an obvious successor to that model. Interesting though...


I wrote the above description before searching but found this http://treksta.com/tech/technology_nestfit.php their own way of looking ar their design philosophy, which is saying the same thing.

I've used the Libero as I by chance found and thought it was interesting in a local garden centre of all places. Certainly fulfills my view of a good design, but looks like that follows through their general thinking and probably worth trying another model.
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I couldn't find any treksta to try on but I did pursue the footshape shoe angle. The big name in this area is Altra so I rang up a local stockist to see if I could try a pair of Lone Peaks for size. Not suitable for walking I was told but there are other more suitable non-zero drop models I could order if the Lone Peaks fitted. Neither of those things turned out to be true as I'll get to in bit.

So I found another manufacturer who made shoes that did have a heel to toe drop as well as a footshape. And I found another stockist in Sheffield, Accelerate. I booked my appointment and went to try the footshape shoe on. It was easily the most uncomfortable pair of shoes I've ever worn. Undiscouraged, the guy brought out another pair of shoes, then another, and so on, until about the 9th pair which were absolutely spot on. What were they? Altra Lone Peaks after all that. What about the zero drop? Not really an issue from looking at me walk and just in case he cut me a 4mm thick bit of insole to provide a bit of drop should I need it. They've been perfect.

Another excellent in-store service, can't recommend highly enough. https://www.accelerateuk.com/
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I'm a narrow fit personally.


I've narrow feet too, find that the italian brands fit better e.g. La Sportiva & Salewa. There are also others e.g. "Zamberlan" & "Asolo" that I haven't tried yet.



Just admiring the carve stance your shoes are placed in snowHead Dynafit caught an edge maybe?! Skullie
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DB wrote:
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johnE wrote:

You have 10 pairs of rock boots as well. What do you use them for?



I play in a couple of bands; rockboots help with the performance...


Hope you have a pair of these confidence inspiring boots (they have wings!).




I just picture EJ goldfish boots?! They MUST be great hiking boots right

























I especially like these rock boots as they have the Austrian flag on the side of the sole.



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snowdave wrote:
@ski3, I love the concept of a "fully waterproof" shoe. How do I put my foot in if there isn't a huge great hole in it? Happy


Is the water clear though?
metaphorically speaking Shocked Very Happy
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Update Im running on the following for now (summer) salomon cross speed 4 for most walks, Asics gel 33 running trainers when it's flatter or my old karrimor boots or wellies if it's wet.
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