Ah, and NO Olympics in Innsbruck/Tirol now, if anyone hasn't heard
@clarky999, A lot of the locals thought this was nailed on even though they didn't all want it, and tbph so did I. There'd been some serious lobbying going on.
IMO its a good thing - the resorts are packed anyway so OK they'd enjoy a load of media/ team/ business types all on expenses and throwing money about but most skiers would go elsewhere and leave well alone, I certainly would have. I was there once for Interski and it was a horrible atmosphere, it'd be 5x worse in Olympic towns I reckon. The dodgy late night bars would be moving in and all manner of price hikes etc. I'm pretty pleased, leave the Olympics to the far east and Russia and them get on with it via their corruption fed egos', its a spent idealogy anyway, they're all professionals (or at least anyone who'se going to be in the limelight is).....
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@Markymark29, I agree it would have put me off as well.
I’m glad.
The stats break down was quite interesting. I think the city was generally about 70% NO, while some of the ski resorts were much more positive (I think St Anton voted 85% YES).
Personally I was fairly ambivalent but leaning towards no. The few weeks they were on would have been fun for sure, but I can do without all the extra crowds and faff the rest of the season.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
During the last World Championships held in St Anton..Some houses were renting there places out at vastly inflated prices (100K+) to Teams, Sponsors, Retailers, Manufactures etc.
Of course they were going to Vote 85% for that kind of guaranteed two weeks income
Volkl Ski paid 6 figures to one house for a room just to tune skis (no accom)
@Markymark29, Agreed. Good outcome from my perspective.
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
For the WC2001, originally Lech would also take part. But then the Lech people voted no.
To me, St.Anton and St.Christoph have become less and less attractive because of all this macho-infrastructure and architecture being build over the years. Both Anton and Christoph used to be very charming villages, but have changed into ugly, generic ski-industry towns. Especially St.Christoph is a disgrace compared to the magic place it was before 2000.
Lech is unchanged, but still succesfull.
(St.Anton+Lech also were candidate for WC2023. Lost that to Saalbach. Good news again!)
After all it is free
After all it is free
@Langerzug, Agree
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@Langerzug, glad to hear about WC2023.
Some of the newer apartments in St Anton, especially at the west end of the village, are depressingly bland. Those above Ōst Terminal are not much better.
Where we stay in Nassereinerstraße felt like “country” up to 3 or 4 years. Now built out, and many of the houses have turned into TO chalets. It now takes two Linie 4 buses to service what was a quiet corner.
Yes, it has lost a lot of charm. Change might be inevitable, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it all of it!
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@Langerzug, I agree in respect of the quality of some of the recent architecture in St Anton, places like Arlmont, Anthonys, Vaya Resort etc imo don't do the place justice, however I think this needs to be seen in context that the town has not previously had enough beds to meet demand, and I guess the planners have taken a view that development needs to happen and the cost to construct these places will be significantly less that say places like Hotel Post and other traditional classics.
Quite what they'll look like in 25 years time is another matter.
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Actually, Anthonys does much more for the integrity of the village than you give it credit. it reinforces the narrow street pattern
typical of many traditional alpine towns. The post with its large set back completely breaks this pattern and diminishes the quality of the village feel
completely. As I remember ,the pomodoro and funky chicken, that preceded "Anthonys" was quite set back from the street and added little or
nothing to the fabric of the village. i applaud the new architecture as there is more than enough "Kitch" in Austria to last 10 lifetimes!!
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@mcg, That "kitch" goes back 500+ years (evidenced by eg Haus Gfall in Bach if you take a wander beyond the high street, so well beyond 10+ generations) and that style is part of the fabric of the Tyrol, it's what most people like about Austria and sits aside the gemuetlichkeit (google it), ie the fact that it doesn't look like Bracknell town centre....imo Anthonys is a really good functional building and does its job (great food and i'm sure the rooms are equally good), however it, and others of the same genre just don't sit right imo, however its subjective clearly. Please take a look at Galzigbistobar building and its sister hotel above - that is a 3 year old building which sits perfectly well alongside the old, as do many others that have been sympathetically built to reflect the old style, with new inners, they cost more but these guys are locals and respect the Tyrol architecture and culture. (not saying the others don't btw, their buildings are just different)
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That building is a complete pastiche of anything traditionally Tirolean. Maybe doesn't quite achieve Kitsch( by the way google it) Status (apologies, correct spelling this time) but
at least it defines the street to the north east that leads up to the Galzigbahn. Old mountain houses had little or no balconies and stood on small footprints. What you seem to be calling traditional is only an evolution of a pastiche developed when tourism began to flourish. So unfortunately Galzigbistobar the building is of no inherent quality
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
We'll agree to differ then.....i'll leave you this, the museum (current use) building built in 1912, not Kitsch in my view and it has balconys too.
A couple of years ago they built a horrible multi story car park in ischgl so It’s perhaps not surprising that there are some urban horrors going up in St Anton.
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@Peter S, which is landscaped in a way which means it is not really visible from most views. Have you actually been there?
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