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Sorry, yes. I was looking at La Plagne.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| davidof wrote: |
For Monday Meteo France say the following
Chablais 1800 20cm Monday 25cm Sunday./evening.
Haute-Tarentaise and Maurienne (Tignes, 60cm at 1800m for the 48 hour period to Monday midnight
Isere: 40cm total snow at 1800 m for the 48 hour period
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Just to check these forecasts.
Chablais: 40 + 25 at 1800 m.
Haute-Tarentaise: 15 + 20
Haute-Maurienne: 10 + 25
Isere: 5 + 20cm
apart from the Chablais the figures were less than forecast. Note the figures are an average for a mountain area and are modelled based on feedback from piste service, weather stations etc. Obviously a lot less snow lower down.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| franga wrote: |
| Surface2Air wrote: |
| GFS ensembles showing some consensus on a couple of a fairly big precipitation spikes this weekend. Only problem is the first one seems to come with a FL of over 2000m |
As other have pointed out, can we please be a bit more specific about location / areas / regions when posting forecasts etc? The FL in the NW Alps will be different to the FL in the Arlberg for example. |
+1
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Certainly looking far better across the Alps this morning on the Alpenpanorama live webcam feeds.
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@jimmybog, sadly, at least for the Haute Savoie, below ~1,500m it's cosmetic.
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@under a new name, cosmetic enough for Les gets to open runs back to village level!
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Lots of contrasting forecasts for the week ahead - keeping a close eye as heading to Tignes on Saturday.
On the Snow gives Warm day Sunday, then cooler Mon/Tue; Snow-Forecast gives Steady snow, very cold on Monday etc etc.
Must be some different models out not resolved as to which way the various systems are going to move. (and the fact its quite a few days away!)
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@kitenski, have they? That's very impressive and pleased to hear it as we've been suffering everyone coming here from everywhere else.
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@streetsahead, automated apps just pick up the models at different times of the day.... clever folk on here seem to be better at reading the models than automated apps!
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@under a new name, yeah I guess the meadows helped them open up!!
Predicted opening Wednesday 11th January
6 lifts:
Chavannes cable car
La Croix chairlift
Les Nauchets Express chairlift
Ranfoilly Express chairlift
La Rosta chairlift
Chavannes carpet
7 slopes : (1 green + 6 blue)
Gentiane
Piste 64
Tulipe
Reine des prés
Campanule
Renardière
Violette
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I’ve noticed that the Met office weather app on my phone allows me to zoom into the north west alps in the radar view. That’s quite useful because the Met O radar now runs forward 5 days.
So another useful tool for snow prediction. Unfortunately it doesn’t cover the southern French alps or Austria.
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@kitenski,
@under a new name, is correct. Under 1500m it’s largely cosmetic. They may have opened some pistes but I’m sorry to say it’s currently warm and raining hard. Two days ago those slopes were green, and they’ll shortly be green again. Next week will hopefully be a different story. I was touring yesterday on some of the closed pistes (to avoid the rocks off piste) and whilst it looked pretty on the pictures, the reality is the grassy bottom was all too close. Probably on the wrong thread.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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This weather watching is a strange old game. It seems to go:
Please Snow. Please Snow. Please Snow. Then...
Stop Snowing. Stop Snowing. That's enough now - please Stop Snowing for My Week!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Well my Son announced at dinner that for our holiday it's going to snow every night and be sunny during the day. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| scottishandy wrote: |
| Well my Son announced at dinner that for our holiday it's going to snow every night and be sunny during the day. |
Now that I can live with.
20 - 30cm each night please, with Bluebird Days from 8am....and lifts open by 9 - 9.30am.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not to stoke things up, but wouldn't most people agree that in France, anything under 1600m is low altitude, and it's a bonus if you can ski below this level on any kind of man made snow or slush. And simply not be relied on except perhaps 6 week window from late Jan to end Feb
I have never been to PdS and would never go simply because I think most of it is too low
Grand Massif a different story, most of it is actually above 1600m (I still wouldn't go until late Jan at least though). However it seems unusually and unfortunately affected by rain earlier this year to such high levels. They are really reliant on skiing at that 1600-2100m level and if this snow is insufficient they have real problem
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@scottishandy Can I come please?
Failing that, can I borrow him for my trip on the 20th?
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@peanuthead, sounds like complete nonsense to me.
I’ve been to the PdS 6 times over the years. Les Gets, Morzine x3 and Avoriaz x2. Always had top to valley bottom skiing.
Always in Jan, and usually early in Jan.
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@MoodyFFS, yeh, tbf I am posting from place of ignorance never having been to PdS. I have been to GM a lot which i think is 1st class resort but I wouldn't go until late January. Just glad I am going to Les Arcs this year. Looking at their reported snow depths, it must be already more or less normal for time of year, at least from 2000 up
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Of course one of other issues is that often certain sectors/pistes in some resorts are rarely opened until late Jan, e.g. Gers in Flaine. Gers is up there with best bowls anywhere in Alps, that is the reason to go to GM! This is often not 100% to do with amount of snow but with other operational issues
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@peanuthead, to be fair, while what you're saying is a little extreme, I (personally) wouldn't go as far as complete nonsense.
I've been to PdS about 10 times now, and at least a 2-3 times it's been horrible skiing back down to Morzine on man-made snow. And have been rained on many times. All in the supposedly safe month of Feb.
But there's so many higher slopes it's generally only an issue on the run home. And Avoriaz is always a safe bet.
I have to admit though thatwe've tended to base ourselves a little higher these days.
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Wepowder automatic map is giving some extremely interesting, albeit unlikely, forecasts that the two places in Austria that almost always get relatively little to no snow (Carinthia and the Wienerwald) will get up to 1+ meters of snow, while the Arlberg and NW France are much more conservative.
My question is, what would it take for this forecast to come true: for far southern and eastern Austria to get slammed but the more snowier places of the alps getting much less? I have checked in with wepowder almost every day for the last few years and never seen anything like this
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@südtirolistdeutsch, NW France doesn't look too shabby from that map??
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Seems to be 1m predicted zone also
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@südtirolistdeutsch, not sure when your screen shot was that is not showing currently (or at least on the free version). However if they use GFS as the basis for their map the latest run is showing a not dissimilar pattern for about 10 days time. Very heavy snow episodes are not unknown in Kärnten and in the Julian alps though perhaps not in the Wienerwald  . However with the suggestion for proper winter cold weather for Vienna and further east then perhaps if there is warmer more humid air either from the north west or south west the boundary between such humid air and very cold dry air could mean an awful lot of snow but not so much further to the west. Someone else might have a better suggestion as an explanation
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Yeah, the low/storm highlighted on ECM in my post above drops into Med between Greece and Italy picking up moisture and chucking it back North to meet cold air over Austria and dumping it as loads of snow over mountains.
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You know it makes sense.
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
Wepowder automatic map is giving some extremely interesting, albeit unlikely, forecasts that the two places in Austria that almost always get relatively little to no snow (Carinthia and the Wienerwald) will get up to 1+ meters of snow, while the Arlberg and NW France are much more conservative.
My question is, what would it take for this forecast to come true: for far southern and eastern Austria to get slammed but the more snowier places of the alps getting much less? I have checked in with wepowder almost every day for the last few years and never seen anything like this
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Probably an outlier run but you never know.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@südtirolistdeutsch,
certainly looks good for Slovenia!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Here’s how GFS 00z op run comes out. Keep in mind that this is simply raw data drawn from the op run. So these figures are really only indicative of one scenario. They will change. Also in the west in particular the heavy snowfall is likely to start as rain on Sunday before temperatures drop considerably on Monday.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| nozawaonsen wrote: |
Here’s how GFS 00z op run comes out. Keep in mind that this is simply raw data drawn from the op run. So these figures are really only indicative of one scenario. They will change. Also in the west in particular the heavy snowfall is likely to start as rain on Sunday before temperatures drop considerably on Monday.
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And the gap between the two dark blue areas - Switzerland and Austrian Tirol - is reflected in very low snowfall forecasts on Bergfex for Skiwelt. But those forecasts also show it a fair bit cooler after the weekend; at least cold enough to top up the articficla stuff on the white bands of snow amongst the green on the valley runs
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| Gored wrote: |
@südtirolistdeutsch,
certainly looks good for Slovenia! |
They had a good dump of snow a few days ago. Being right next to the Adriatic probably helps.
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As predicted yesterday (Wednesday 11th) brought another 10cm in the French Northern Alps but the zero iso was very high, around 2400m dropping a bit during the episode, so this only really fell as snow above 1800m. It doesn't seem to have done much damage lower down but it continues the run of high altitude rain and the situation below 1800m is not great but not disasterous as some more slopes have opened up. Zero iso is back around 1000m so resorts can run snowmaking - if they can afford to.
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Weather to Ski:
...Things start to get really interesting from Sunday onwards with a succession of storms moving into the Alps from the north-west.
It will be mild at first with some rain possible to 1700-1900m early on Sunday before it turns colder later in the day and remains on the cold side for much of next week. This “conveyor belt” of storms has the potential to bring huge amounts of snow to some parts of the Alps from Sunday onwards, with more than 1m possible by mid-week, especially in the west. Stay tuned!
Snow conditions are much improved from this time last week thanks to the widespread snowfalls on Sunday and Monday (and a small top-up yesterday in the north-western Alps). However, more snow is needed lower down, especially in the north-west, where many resorts are still trying to rebuild their base below 1600m or so after December’s mild, and at times rainy, weather.
If the weather models are correct though, everything will be back on track soon…
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| jimmybog wrote: |
| Gored wrote: |
@südtirolistdeutsch,
certainly looks good for Slovenia! |
They had a good dump of snow a few days ago. Being right next to the Adriatic probably helps. |
I went there a few time when kids were learning. it tends to get infrequent but heavy dumps on the Julian Alps. Weather systems from NW tend to have petered out by they get there but the rarer weather fronts coming up from SE can easily dump 1m plus at a time. So if you time it right, it can be great as you get a mass of snow and then clear days. Sadly the big dumps haven't hit yet this season.
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@südtirolistdeutsch, as others have said, Carinthia/Karnten can get huge dumps from Southerly systems. I have very fond memories of amazing late season powder days in Heiligenblut a few years ago.
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In typical idiot fashion, I'm already looking anxiously at this thread in anticipation of a trip to Mayrhofen in mid-March. Am I right in thinking that Austria hasn't had as dismal a start to the season as France? Certainly the webcams show pretty good cover. I'm hoping a couple of good dumps coming up will help get the base up to a decent level.
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| J2R wrote: |
| In typical idiot fashion, I'm already looking anxiously at this thread in anticipation of a trip to Mayrhofen in mid-March. Am I right in thinking that Austria hasn't had as dismal a start to the season as France? Certainly the webcams show pretty good cover. I'm hoping a couple of good dumps coming up will help get the base up to a decent level. |
although "France" and "Austria" are quite general, Yes you are correct. Its also 2 months away... you could have 3metres of snow / everything washed away in a a tropical rainstorm and most things in between between now and then.
Stop panicking.
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Hey, but panicking is part of the fun! Doesn't everybody do this? (Actually, I'm not panicking, I'm working myself up into a frenzy of excitement).
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