 Poster: A snowHead
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
I don't like the look of the temperatures though, looks like rain upto quite a height.....in january !!!  especially in France.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
queen bodecia, take a look at the satellite picture of the Alps on Sat24 (http://www.sat24.com/alps) - a cold northerly air stream banging into the north side of the German/Austrian Alps - heavy snow forecast for later in the week at most resorts at the moment
(http://www.wetter.at/wetter/sport-freizeit/ski-wetter/oesterreich/tirol/scheffau-skiwelt) Even if you don't speak German, the pictograms tell a nice story 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
Wow what a horrible week. Certainly does not look good does it! Think i may go skiing in a few more weeks instead now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
nozawaonsen, this has me on the edge of my seat! Have just found this thread and am obsessed! Travelling out to Oz-en-Oisans on the 22nd Jan and have three people who have never been ski-ing before in the party so really excited for them and hoping the conditions will be good - so will be checking out this thread constantly over the next few weeks - thanks for doing this. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Looks like lots of French Alps will have lots of rain and the grass will appear in places such as Morzine and Les Gets
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rather liking the look of this evening's charts from first glance... Cold comes a little further south... Jet stream comes a little further south... 
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
hmmm, interesting stuff...even though we are not sue out to the French Alps until the 22nd, not sure i am liking much in terms of the potential washout sub 1500m in the coming few days. Fingers and toes crossed the shifts are positive in terms of a better drop in FL
Let it snow (conditionally and heavily above 1000m pleeeeeeeeease) 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"Definitely looking much colder in FI"
I am following this thread with interest, heading sking weekend of either 8 or 9 jan, will book over the next few days, is there any likelihood of favourable conditions for Andorra or is it just the alps, and what does "FI" stand for
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
fantasy island....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
kendub, Andorra is on the edge of the forecast low pressure systems as they move in to the North. So the amount of precipitation they will receive will likely be lower than the Alps (at least on the basis of recent runs). Here are some ensembles from nearby (?)
So like many places it will be mild (indeed warm) going into that weekend. Cooler on the way out.
If I was going skiing that weekend I might be tempted more by somewhere high in the Alps as it looks like that will be more likely to be snowy...
FI really just means a period where confidence on detail is increasingly poor, hence fantasy...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
The joys of mother nature....great info nozawaonsen
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
| Quote: |
| If I was going skiing that weekend I might be tempted more by somewhere high in the Alps as it looks like that will be more likely to be snowy... |
Only if you are stuck at the western end nozawaonsen, here in the eastern part we have quite cold temperatures forecast despite south to south easterly winds. The prediction is for it to swing round to a westerly air stream by the end of the week, getting warmer, relatively speaking and bringing in heavy snow at the weekend. BUT a lot can change between now and then 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
Flights booked to Milan on 10th Jan for 3.5 days skiing. Was planning on Alagna and hoping to stay in the refuge Guglielmina. Now thinking Gressoney may be a better bet with trees. Following this thread very closely and not rushing to book rooms - thanks guys keep the info coming !
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
00z Dominant high pressure should leave much of the Alps bathed in sunshine today and tomorrow before the low pressure arrives from the west... It looks like it will really make itself felt in the French Alps on Thursday with temperatures rising throughout the day. Freezing level could be 1500m first thing and 2200m+ by night. Heavy precipitation looks like it will build throughout the day snow to rain in many areas... (heavy snow at altitude). In Austria temperatures will rise though will still be 2 to 3C lower and heavier precipitation looks like being loaded towards the end of the weekend...
As before temperatures across the Alps look set to fall quite hard, by 10C or more during Monday, before rising (slightly faster in this run than the two previous ones) to seasonal averages with more precipitation flowing in for the rest of the week from Wednesday...
Some suggestions in far FI of a more blocked pattern which (if it came off) might see the Atlantic influence being diminished in the second half of the month and colder weather returning. Maybe..
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
Just praying the Temps drop further than expected, got everything crossed for this next week
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
nozawaonsenhow much will it effect Switzerland in temps and FL ?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chris Brookes slightly depends where you mean in Switzerland?
06z operational looks like it goes off on a mad dash into the cold after next weekend and into FI. Not completely sure it's credible to be honest. Also reigns in the likely precipitation...
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
One interesting aspect of 06z is that it looks like it produces a snowier outlook for Andorra which might be of interest to kendub... Must admit I wasn't completely clear whether you were thinking of skiing for the weekend (which is how I initially read it) or a week from that weekend... If the latter then it might be interesting, but 06z's operational run is a bit of a loner so you might want to see how it develops!
[to be honest though I've not been watching the weather for Andorra, have never been and don't have any feel for what is likely to happen there other than looking at the most recent run... ]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hi Nozawaonsen, will be going for 1 week leaving this weekend, will be booking over the next day or two for either the Alps or Andorra, that is interesting re the possible weather in Andorra
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
nozawaonsen, I've been reading your analysis with interest, thank you for putting so much effort in and keeping us informed.
I was wondering what the outlook is for the Dolomites, I'm heading out to Arabba on the 16th, will the Atlantic lows produce any significant fresh snow (no rain please!) for that region?
I've been looking at the wigglies for that area and it looks like a milder spell for 7-10th Jan with some spikes of precipitation, then cooling down and drier next week. In my past experience, the Dolomites tend to do better snow-wise out of lows coming off the Adriatic or Gulf of Genoa rather than Westerly/NWesterly Atlantic troughs.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yup 12z is dumping 06z and buying the Atlantic.
Very quick glance, brings more heavy precipitation in next week. Rain low, snow high.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
| nozawaonsen wrote: |
Chris Brookes slightly depends where you mean in Switzerland?
06z operational looks like it goes off on a mad dash into the cold after next weekend and into FI. Not completely sure it's credible to be honest. Also reigns in the likely precipitation... |
Jungfrau Region
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
luigi, - off out to Arabba myself on the 19th:
Another good graphic representation is the 7 day meteogram here http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/MS_120465_g05.png - (46.5N,12E is approx at the Passo Falzarago )
Rows:
1) x-section through sky (low/mid/high cloud cover)
2)Pressure
3)Wind speed & direction
4)Temp (min, max)
5)2m Relative Humidity
6)Precipitation
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
Hello Geoff
How would I find the link for Oz-en-Oisans or Alpe d'huez for the above charts? Thanks.
Rob
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
Hmm. We are all watching this like hawks, aren't we? Have already planned inviting some friends to lunch on Thursday, followed by trip down to Albertville to get some shopping in and have a poke around Decathlon. I don't ski in the rain.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
Hi Nozawaonsen, thanks for taking the time to post the forecasts, how's Andorra looking for poss snow
Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
darbyrw,
| Quote: |
Hello Geoff
How would I find the link for Oz-en-Oisans or Alpe d'huez for the above charts? Thanks. |
I tend to google for the latitude/longitude of the resort I'm after (you'll normally find some site with the lat/long details) then if you type the numbers into Google Maps you can make sure it's roughly the right place you're after. (enter the numbers as 46.5,12 for 46deg30" north, 12deg East)
Then with a bit of trial & error, change the numbers in the url of the meteogram (eg www .wzkarten.de/pics/MS_120465_g05.png - without the space after the www ) to find the nearest one that has the picture you want
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
nozawaonsen, thankyou
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I'm off to Morzine this Saturday 8th. The forecast looks abysmally bad with the already stony and icy pistes being washed clean of snow by torrential rain before I arrive. Is there any hope of a turnaround? Someone please cheer me up....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Milk Corbum, a few thoughts...
First the weather that is being forecast hasn't happened yet, so until it does it can all change. Temperatures could certainly drop a little (though they could also rise).
Secondly remember that the weather can change from one valley to another. The above at this range is all rather broad brush.
Thirdly the snow level is about 300m below the freezing level. Moreover in heavy precipitation the snow level can be found up to 600m below the freezing level.
Finally it will be snowing heavily at altitude, you just need to climb.
And if all else fails... Beer?
|
|
|
|
|
|
brian
brian
Guest
|
|
Milk Corbum, Monday the 10th currently looks like rain turning to snow right down to valley level by the end of the day. The grassy pastures around Morzine don't need much snow to be great. So that could set you up for a good middle and end of week, fingers crossed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
nozawaonsen, thanks for your insights, with Arabba at 1600m, it's gonna be a close call for seeing rain in resort, just hope it cools down enough as it reaches more eastern parts.
geoffers, thanks for that meteogramm chart, looks good for snow on the 10th as the temp falls away, the chart relates to 1778m, not much higher than resort, fingers crossed for some fresh right down in the village then, maybe 25cm worth!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
