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Stop the Brutal Grooming

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Just thought I'd getting another subject going here.

Thoughts on getting back to real skiing and doing away with Piste Groomers ? Just to add more salt to the wound how about how about doing away with the lifts and return to hiking-up ?

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I don't know about the Netherlands, stanton, but you can enjoy all that in Scotland - come and enjoy, F.O.C.!
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
U can tell he lives in a flat country rolling eyes
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Is this this piste bashing Scottish style? Or isn't it raining enough?
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Sorry stanton, but as a member of the DHO I cannot agree to your proposal snowHead
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stanton, so you won't want a ride in my Kassbohrer PistenBully then? It's got a very impressive stereo, gluhwein dispenser and nodding dog.
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Very impressive. Does anybody have any idea how much these monsters cost?
Just in case this gets separated from DG's picture, I am talking about piste-bashers.
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The trouble with stopping piste grooming is that with the number of skiers in most resorts, you'd soon have moguls EVERYWHERE so you'd never actually return to the "good old days/real skiing" with soft fresh snow on all the pistes, except for just after a snowfall.

As far as getting rid of lifts, most resorts would lose at least 90% of their winter business overnight! Having said that I always like best the off-piste runs which need a bit of a walk to get to - for every 5 mins of walking required the number of punters on the run probably drops by half!
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David Goldsmith,
Isn't that a picture of a Snow Bison??
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Flat country ? Im sitting here at work 7 metres below sea level . I have to climb-up to get out of here everytime I go home which is 1 metre below Smile

If you have ever been here your know where im coming from on this topic
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I only ride in them uphill !
I got a great picture (not with we right now) of a one I rode up in Las Lenas . Off Piste off naturally !
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stanton, if I'd known that you operated submarines I wouldn't have suggested anything as boring as a ride in my PistenBully.
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Flat country ? Im sitting here at work 7 metres below sea level . I have to climb-up to get out of here everytime I go home which is 1 metre below Smile


Where would we be without dykes, eh? Wink
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
stanton, OK you get 4-5 runs per day with a total of 8-12,000 ft verticle for $119 per day for the pass including guide, but a private guide costs an additional $425 per day. mind you there's a maximum of 80 skiers per day, it still has one lift though ! Verticle of chair is only 1,900 ft

Gosh you can buy a lifetime pass for only $15,000 what a bargin ! Confused
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I know this is digressing but do you think riding around in a submarine would be that exciting ? Unless it's one of those ones with windows and sea monsters outside.
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D G Orf

Your to late .
Its guided only now . When they first put the chair up when I went a few years back you could go unguided & they only charged a few $ for the lift ride. Before then, it use to be a hike-up & that was even better > FREE !
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While we're on the subject of brutal grooming here's a couple of examples that I agree should be stopped:

Example 1......Example 2
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Sorry David Goldsmith, I must have a problem with my computer they both looked like pictures of badly groomed bitches to me Shocked
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Well who needs lifts when you've got one of these!

(mpg file - be warned)
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David's examples have given me an idea. Maybe we can compromise on the grooming issue. We can have totally ungroomed pistes, those bashed a little at the edges, the Brazilian which leaves an ungroomed strip up the middle ...
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David Goldsmith, so how do you know Gregor Attwenger?
The rest of class 3A are a fun lot.
If you want a really good example of Brutal Grooming you should look at Andreas's photo album:
Position One . Position Two . Shocked
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Position Two certainly is brutal, Jonpim!
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Japan is the extreme grooming capital. My friend who skis there says that after a snowfall they won't open the lifts till the slopes have been flattened. When he questioned this he was told that the Japanese can't ski deep snow.
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Jonpim.... that must be a Mullet...

J2Dave...
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the Japanese can't ski deep snow.
snowball, that's why all the ski bums head out there! There aren't many resorts in Japan that you can legitimately ski-off piste. Niseko being one, which apparently has powder comparable with the best resorts in Europe and North America ( I'm doing a little recce as I've been asked to 'work' in Tokyo for a couple of months). There are some interesting stories on the Ski Japan forum, which is dominated, from what I gather by the lingo, by hardcore Aussie and Canadian expats!
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Kit Wong,
I don't know about the powder being comparable with the best of Europe/America, I suspect it may be better. I went there to get a bit of late seaon skiing never having previously heard of it, wonderful ski area not expensive, loads of offpiste and really friendly. There was about 8 metres a the top of the hill in April and they hadnt had snow for a couple of weeks (apparently unusual).All this with a resort base height of about 300m and a latitude same as Barcelona I think.
They also have machine made moguls for the mogul freaks and some very old one man chairs with terrible music.
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I had some business in Sapporo in the early 1990s. When I mentioned prior to a visit in February that I'd quite like to go skiing, I was politely asked my boot size 'cos the feet of an average Western bloke are apparently beyond the normal range in Japan. Sure enough, when I got there, boots and bindings had been ordered ahead.

Only had one day skiing there, and it was snowing heavily. I seem to remember it was enjoyable, but since the après ski was at the Sapporo brewery, my memory is somewhat hazy.
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