 Poster: A snowHead
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@sugarmoma666, daleboot UK is run by Richard and is on the corner of the market place, James works from a garden office in Radley www.bootsure.co.uk
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Snowysarah - January 2023 wrote: |
| Sorry back to a crazy work week and ish resurfacing. Will reply soon ! |
| Snowysarah - April 2025 wrote: |
I wanted to update this thread.
Daleboot refitted them for me free of charge and they are now perfect. Best I’ve ever skied in. I LOVE THEM. Thanks James ! |
That must have been one hell of a week at work!!
Also, great news that the boots worked out in the end. Was there something really obvious that needed tweaking?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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They were too big. They sorted and downsized.
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At the risk of derailing this particular thread, I didn't want to create a new one for a very similar topic:
My wife had boots fitted for her prior to a recent trip from a very reputable fitter recommended by many people on this forum. I'll keep them anonymous for now.
Background; 7 years ago my wife got some rental boots that were too big, she had windscreen-wipers for skis, fell, broke her knee badly and hasn't been since.
This year she finally got round to going back so to mitigate the rental boot problem we got her her own boots fitted.
After 2x2hr lessons on the slopes she was in indescribable pain on the lower shin. Both lower shins just above the ankles were red and angry after the second day's lesson to the extent she couldn't even touch the skin. "I'm not sure whats more painful; this or breaking my knee" she said at one point.
We asked the advice of the instructor and also went to see a couple of places in resort to see if there was anything they could do, but to no avail so we ended up with a rental pair that enabled her to ski the remainder of the week. We were told at the fitting that the boots are supposed to be 'snug' and so assumed any discomfort would improve with wear on the slopes.
Everyone we spoke to in resort was surprised that
a) she was fitted in mens boots. Apparently female boots have different 'shape' to better fit ladies calves and ankles? In particular the liners?
b) she was fitted in 100 flex. Apparently this is far too stiff for all except expert / advanced female skiers.
Based on what we heard I'm a bit surprised she wasn't fitted in female boots with a softer flex. Wondering what folks think?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@yllen, probably better going back to the bootfitter and asking them - was there a fit guarantee in that adjustments could be made later?
re the flex, it depends on the boot - 100 flex in one make will not be the same in another make. It can certainly be suitable for an intermediate, but it depends
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They are Salomon S/Pro Alpha 100. They do have a fit guarantee, but I don't know if that stretches to an exchange to a different boot, i.e. the female version.
And I did notice that in terms of the liner, the tongue is not 'overlapped' by the two sides anywhere near the same degree that my own overlap. And indeed her rental boots overlappped. The two sides of the liner barely meet the edge of the tongue. My assumption here is that her large calves are filling out the liner too much (due to being a smaller, male, liner)
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Wed 9-04-25 15:35; edited 1 time in total
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a) a good fitter will match your anatomy to a shell and liner as a starting point - whether or not a boot is labelled male or female is largely irrelevant.
b) without knowing the skiers ability, height and weight it is hard to know if 100 flex is relevant or not. Flex also varies from boot to boot and can be massively influenced by the tongue in the liner.
Not enough information to be critical of the fitter in my opinion. You also have to realise that a fitter is only as good as the feedback they get from the client, albeit education of the client on how to give feedback is part of the job.
Glad your wife now has comfortable feet!
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| yllen wrote: |
They are Salomon S/Pro Alpha 100. They do have a fit guarantee, but I don't know if that stretches to an exchange to a different boot, i.e. the female version.
And I did notice that in terms of the liner, the tongue is not 'overlapped' by the two sides anywhere near the same degree that my own overlap. And indeed her rental boots overlappped. The two sides of the liner barely meet the edge of the tongue. My assumption here is that her large calves are filling out the liner too much (due to being a smaller, male, liner) |
tell them the problem, let them propose the solution
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@yllen, contact you fitter and have a discussion, if it is a boot we have fitted we want to know and want to make adjustments to make it work (having checked back i can't see any of that boot sold to any female in our store)
what i can say (whoever the boot came from) is the following
there is technically no such thing as a mens boot, they are unisex or womens
in the S Pro alpha the difference between the unisex and womens model other than colour is the flaring of the back of the cuff of the shell, and the cut of the back of the liner collarina, these two things are to accommodate a larger lower calf muscle but don't generally affect the area that you are talking about........ the tongue is the same cut on both models,(although the tongue on the wms model as it is deemed higher in the range is removable and can be repositioned and adjusted a little more) where the the tongue was overlapping more on the rental boot that is down to that model specific liner not the difference between two versions of the S pro Alpha
in terms of flex, flex should not be considered as something related to skier ability, it is much more about body weight then lever length and biomechanics, and finally skier level
the area of the tongue just ahead of/above the ankles is where there are some meaty big tendons, if there are some biomechanical issues then the Anterior tibialis can "pop" and cause this type of pain, without seeing he foot it is impossible to say but if there is an issue there, depending on the biomechanical situation and how well the foot is supported it is unlikely it would show up in the store so is difficult for the fitter to pinpoint an issue that doesn't show. the solution normally involves some surgery of the boot tongue to create a pocket for the tendon to sit into without being compressed, but it is normally one area that if someone flags up an issue in store we would investigate a different model of boot from the outset, there are times when this happens in all boots, but due to the nature of the modification being fairly complicated its one you try to avoid if you can
hope that helps, if your fitter can't help reach out and we can certianly take a look
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the left side was much worse than the right.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| yllen wrote: |
the left side was much worse than the right.
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Difficult to tell from that picture but some of that redness looks like it could be a reaction to the sock/boot liner material, it’s not quite where I thought it was form the original description
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If she's not been skiing for 7 years are you sure this isn't just a skin reaction to being clamped in boots for the first time and that the subsequent rental boots worked by being sloppier?
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Boot huh! The bane of a skiers existence.
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You know it makes sense.
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That looks very painful but agree it seems more like a rash/reaction. I got similar the first time I skied because I was silly enough to put my long johns down to my ankles
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I use thin arm sleeves under the socks to get rid of the shafing from them.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Hawkey61 wrote: |
| I use thin arm sleeves under the socks to get rid of the shafing from them. |
we have some of those; and I think she used them on the day this photo was taken; so two layers between boot and skin (shin protector, which she has worn before, and sock)
Have gone back to the fitters and we're booked in early May for a refit. So will update post that!
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