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Zermatt and Cervinia 2021-2022

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Once the sun came out (really the clouds dropped in height!) it was splendid and the snow brilliant on / side piste except (again) val tournanche - we went down run 7 in a pea souped and the sow was either hard or ( Lowe down) melty with grass showing through everywhere. Needs serious snow or cold to open run to vt bottom.

Any way up top in the pm it was glorious.

http://youtube.com/v/Wj5MJwgFF7A


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8611 wrote:
Interesting, thanks. I thought they were open last year fully, but visitors from certain countries had to quarantine on arrival in Switzerland. This was assessed on the basis of the prevalence of the virus in those countries? I'm coming from Ireland so would rank as EU. Last year our prevalence was at one point ok to arrive without quarantine but then that changed.

Am I wrong in that?


Last winter, the criteria for a country to be added to the "quarantine list" was if the daily new cases per 100.000 inhabitants (average in the last 14 days) was more than "60" higher than Switzerland's. On this map you can see a comparison between Switzerland and each country: https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/international/case

That was last winter, though. Right now there's no quarantine mandate (even for countries with a much higher incidence rate), as you can see on the map below, and no clue what they might from now on.
https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/international/quarantine

John will surely have more info.
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Cervinia's website has announced the opening of the Goillet chair on Wednesday and Pancheron on Friday.

Does anyone have idea if they may open more runs at altitude without snow making?
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@Wildsmith, looks lovely. Nice bit of fresh on the sides there. Who’s that skiing in the blue jacket?
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I’ve packed already mind.
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VolklAttivaS5 wrote:
@Wildsmith, looks lovely. Nice bit of fresh on the sides there. Who’s that skiing in the blue jacket?

My wife. Pretty good under the Bontadini Ch too

http://youtube.com/v/cXoN_JhQAE4

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lapalma wrote:
Cervinia's website has announced the opening of the Goillet chair on Wednesday and Pancheron on Friday.

Does anyone have idea if they may open more runs at altitude without snow making?

Where is the goillet chair and pancheron exactly?
And do you guys think the restrictions could drastically change by next weekend?( to a point where tourists can’t arrive)
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I highly highly doubt it
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Idb1213 wrote:
lapalma wrote:
Cervinia's website has announced the opening of the Goillet chair on Wednesday and Pancheron on Friday.

Does anyone have idea if they may open more runs at altitude without snow making?

Where is the goillet chair and pancheron exactly?
And do you guys think the restrictions could drastically change by next weekend?( to a point where tourists can’t arrive)


I am having the same fear! Our trip is booked from 3 – 8 December, flying into GVA...
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Where is the goillet chair and pancheron exactly?

Thats the Z and C lifts
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Started sunny



T-shirt weather at lunch



Then the clouds rolled in around plan Maison and up to Theodulpass - vt looked better but we decided to see if they had closed the muddy gap on the blue to Cretaz (not quite - 6pm to go!). They’re testing the Cretaz chair again - I think a good chance they can get that going for the sat crowd… maybe!
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How was lunch at Etoile? As good as ever?
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Ah, well we didn’t go for the resto bit as we wanted to be outside and they hadn’t put out the chairs… coz the knew the fog was coming I assume… so short menu, no soups(!), I skipped wife had lasagne ( good) but not the real thing!! Wishing we had turned left at plateaux rosa for pm sun and chalet ventina pasta!
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On the cov restrictions front it looks ok if you are 2 x vaxxed - looks like they are not allowing recent test to count as a green pass (no idea re under 18s though!

Nb Italy ! Cervinia side!


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Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere on the thread (I checked and couldn’t find anything). We are thinking about a Zermatt trip the week before Xmas. Me, my wife and our 17 year old are all double vaxed so would be able to get paperwork sorted.

My daughter however is only 15 so a) has only had one jab b) the NHS app doesn’t show her jab so we can’t prove it.

Looking at the Canton website I think you can only be given a pass via the website with a single jab if you can prove you’ve also recovered from COVID?
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Cloudy and another tiny bit of snow - looks like I need to stay low today… !!?

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I remember the Edelweiss, Cervinia yes? Great value, homely place
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@8611, yes, homely maybe understates it but I haven’t seen ur home! Great value imv too’
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Best viz at t. Steg again! Sorry this is no better than the webcam

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Is wellness open in Edelweiss or has the big C put a stop to all such activities? Think we had it to oursleves when I stayed there, had to ask them to open it up

Were the Swedish girls in Chalet Etoile asking for me? Must have been so lonely for them during lockdown...
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Possible (just!) to ski to Cretaz now but it’s not a piste yet!
https://youtube.com/shorts/tKOVhW8inJs?feature=share
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8611 wrote:
Is wellness open in Edelweiss or has the big C put a stop to all such activities? Think we had it to oursleves when I stayed there, had to ask them to open it up

Were the Swedish girls in Chalet Etoile asking for me? Must have been so lonely for them during lockdown...

Yes and no ( I asked, gave a detailed description but nothing Smile )
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Two timing Swedish girls. I thought they only had eyes for me Confused
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Info on Zermatt.... hopefully someone there can confirm this is still up to date?

As of Monday 13 September 2021, mandatory certification will apply inside restaurants, cultural and leisure facilities and at indoor events. This decision was taken by the Federal Council on 8 September. The measure will remain in place until 24 January 2022.

1. The certificate requirement applies to persons aged 16 and over.
2. No certificate is required on terraces
3. Guests on terraces who do not have a certificate but need to use toilet facilities inside, for example, are required to wear a face mask. The same applies to guests who are waiting to collect take-away food
4. In places where a certificate is required, all other protective measures, such as the obligation to wear a mask, are waived.
5. The certificate requirement also applies to catering and leisure facilities in hotels. Certificates must be shown to access breakfast buffets, fitness rooms or indoor swimming pools, for example. Guests who only stay overnight in a hotel, on the other hand, are not subject to the certificate requirement. However, catering options for guests who do not have a certificate are restricted to room service.
6. The Swiss Alpine Club, for example, has also confirmed a certificate requirement for overnight stays in mountain huts.[quote]
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Last day for me! Up early a bit more snow on the ground in town

The snow up top was light and fluffy and skiable with only patchy cloud.



Run all the way to Cretaz again possible but only just
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If italy will close its gates to all/certain countries, usually will they give like a week’s notice or anything? or it might come out of the blue?(now with the new variant around)
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Did anyone buy their ski passes successfully on the Cervinia website? We are stuck for half an hour now on the payment being processed page....Not sure if the payment has gone through or not Confused
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Cookiemonsterhahaha wrote:
Did anyone buy their ski passes successfully on the Cervinia website? We are stuck for half an hour now on the payment being processed page....Not sure if the payment has gone through or not Confused
if u go into your account you can see your order history and see if it’s gone through
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Wildsmith wrote:
Cookiemonsterhahaha wrote:
Did anyone buy their ski passes successfully on the Cervinia website? We are stuck for half an hour now on the payment being processed page....Not sure if the payment has gone through or not Confused
if u go into your account you can see your order history and see if it’s gone through
then it hasn't...Gonna do it again when I get there tonight
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@DWJA1976, suggest asking on another non snow forecast thread. Lots on the piste. You should get more joy
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Huge queue this morning to get onto lift A and not a lot of lifts running throughout the day, prob due to the winds. Great conditions nonetheless. Some fresh snow in the afternoon too.
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Cookiemonsterhahaha wrote:
Huge queue this morning to get onto lift A and not a lot of lifts running throughout the day, prob due to the winds. Great conditions nonetheless. Some fresh snow in the afternoon too.

How strong does the winds need to be in order to shut down lifts?(25-30 km/h is decent or rather high?)
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Idb1213 wrote:
Cookiemonsterhahaha wrote:
Huge queue this morning to get onto lift A and not a lot of lifts running throughout the day, prob due to the winds. Great conditions nonetheless. Some fresh snow in the afternoon too.

How strong does the winds need to be in order to shut down lifts?(25-30 km/h is decent or rather high?)


last time i was in cervinia (early-19) the lefts were open/closed around 40-50 kph area. but thats just from memory. i guess direction has a lot to do with it as well
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Idb1213 wrote:
Cookiemonsterhahaha wrote:
Huge queue this morning to get onto lift A and not a lot of lifts running throughout the day, prob due to the winds. Great conditions nonetheless. Some fresh snow in the afternoon too.

How strong does the winds need to be in order to shut down lifts?(25-30 km/h is decent or rather high?)


last time i was in cervinia (early-19) the lefts were open/closed around 40-50 kph area. but thats just from memory. i guess direction has a lot to do with it as well

Weather for next sunday-monday shows strong winds (about 35-45 kph) with a NW direction..How bad is it? Puzzled
Also today everything is closed, anyone has an idea what is the wind conditions at the moment?(website shows 15 kph but that seems unlikely)
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according to the website its ~40kph at plateau rosa. maybe there is a demand issue for the lower lifts....

Date Time Station Temperature Humidity Wind (km/h) Wind (Dir)
29/11/2021 13:34:00 Meteo Plan Maison -11.7 42.3 13.6 NORD
29/11/2021 13:33:40 Meteo Plateau R. -20.2 85.2 39.4 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:17 Meteo Cime Bianche -12.9 58.5 8.4 SU-WE
29/11/2021 13:34:06 Meteo Cervinia -7.3 46.1 0.6 EST
29/11/2021 13:33:46 Meteo Pancheron -15.2 59.1 2.1 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:06 Meteo Salette -8.3 49.9 26.2 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:07 Meteo Valtournenche Paese -1.5 31.5 5.8 NORD
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Kj82 wrote:
according to the website its ~40kph at plateau rosa. maybe there is a demand issue for the lower lifts....

Date Time Station Temperature Humidity Wind (km/h) Wind (Dir)
29/11/2021 13:34:00 Meteo Plan Maison -11.7 42.3 13.6 NORD
29/11/2021 13:33:40 Meteo Plateau R. -20.2 85.2 39.4 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:17 Meteo Cime Bianche -12.9 58.5 8.4 SU-WE
29/11/2021 13:34:06 Meteo Cervinia -7.3 46.1 0.6 EST
29/11/2021 13:33:46 Meteo Pancheron -15.2 59.1 2.1 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:06 Meteo Salette -8.3 49.9 26.2 NORD
29/11/2021 13:34:07 Meteo Valtournenche Paese -1.5 31.5 5.8 NORD

By kph you mean kilometer per hour?So basically its safe to say 35kmh+ lifts shut down?How does things look for next sunday anyone who knows by wind direction/winds etc?
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yes kph=km/h. i dont think its as simple as that and 35 seems too low from my experience to assume that. there will be others better placed to comment but the problem weather seems to be northerly winds that pose cervinia the biggest problem and more so the earlier in the season it is. impossible to say for 7 days into the future, my only advice (for what its worth) would be to stay flexible with your options. maybe zermatt is a better option?? when i was there in jan-19 we went to Pila the day cervinia was closed and had an excellent day.
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yes kph=km/h. i dont think its as simple as that and 35 seems too low from my experience to assume that. there will be others better placed to comment but the problem weather seems to be northerly winds that pose cervinia the biggest problem and more so the earlier in the season it is. impossible to say for 7 days into the future, my only advice (for what its worth) would be to stay flexible with your options. maybe zermatt is a better option?? when i was there in jan-19 we went to Pila the day cervinia was closed and had an excellent day.

Yes seems like winds are north, just wondering how certain it is because both bergfex and snow-forecast agree on high winds next sunday.. Looks like its pretty certain, would like to hear an opinion from someone who knows to read weather pretty well, and if it’s likely for the lifts to shut..
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