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Saalbach - Hinterglemm - Leogang - Fieberbrunn 2021/22 Official Unofficial Thread

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@Mr.Egg, I’m staying in Hinterglemm from the 11th to the 20th December. Arrive Salzburg at 2pm, will be on the first available transport out to S/H - I use the ÖBB app for Route and to buy ticket. Let me know if you’d like to meet for a beer and a chat and/or ski.
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tatmanstours wrote:
@Mr.Egg, I shouldn’t worry. Any noise tends to be concentrated around the Schattberg Xpress lift station.


Or in Otzi, Bobby's, formerly Crazy Deer or spitz if Mrs T gets going
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@kb36, those precious few weeks before Christmas are generally peaceful and idyllic - probably what skiing used to be like before it was discovered by mass tourism (as well as like most of last season). Mrs TT doesn’t get into après party mode until Boxing Day.
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Hello all,

First time poster long term lurker and reader of this thread and its previous incarnations in particular.

Couple of things I'm hoping people can help with - we visited Saalbach in 2020 just before things went wrong and really enjoyed it and are planning to head back there in January. Unlike previous skiing trips it is just likely to be me and Mrs B-H so we are going to stay in a hotel for a bit of luxury with a spa etc.

This thread has me sorted for recommendations of hotels but I was wondering what the luggage situation was likely to be on check out day - I'm planning to sort early flights on arrival day so we can sort out ski hire the day before and take advantage of the after 3pm day before bonus on the lift pass but does anyone know how realistic it is for a hotel to store our bags on departure day until mid/late afternoon if we went onto the slopes?

Second, my father in law turns 70 in March and is a skier so we are planning a family ski trip to Zell am See to celebrate. Given S-H and Zell am See are covered by the same lift pass I'm trying to work out whether purchasing the season ticket makes financial sense. I think there's not a huge amount in it from looking at the figures so tempted to go for two week passes in case for some reason we have to cancel one of the weeks. We are unlikely to be able to make a third trip unfortunately.

@tatmantours I've seen many people ask for your guide, is there a chance I can hold of it at all?


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@TomBH, welcome as a poster!

Hotels are usually set up for some degree of luggage storage on a temporary basis, even if it's just in the corner of the restaurant after breakfast, but this depends on the space they have and the number of guests they have in at the time. here's an example - https://www.tristkogel.at/home---en/rooms-prices/useful-information/
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Departure: in the same way that on arrival you would like to encounter a room that is ready for you, we ask that you vacate your room by 10.00. Please let us know if you would like to have breakfast earlier on your day of departure. There is the possibility of luggage storage facilities being available for your use on your day of departure, and also shower facilities for after your sporty antics of the day.


As an alternative, the ski lockers at several of the lift stations have double or quad lockers which will easily fit suitcases - see e.g. https://www.bruendl.at/en/services/shopping-experience/ski-depot.

For the season pass question, the break-even point is around 15 days, so two weeks of 6 days each is cheaper with individual 6 day tickets. On the other hand, the season pass is an incentive to fit in a long weekend or two wink
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ousekjarr wrote:
@TomBH, welcome as a poster!

Hotels are usually set up for some degree of luggage storage on a temporary basis, even if it's just in the corner of the restaurant after breakfast, but this depends on the space they have and the number of guests they have in at the time. here's an example - https://www.tristkogel.at/home---en/rooms-prices/useful-information/
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Departure: in the same way that on arrival you would like to encounter a room that is ready for you, we ask that you vacate your room by 10.00. Please let us know if you would like to have breakfast earlier on your day of departure. There is the possibility of luggage storage facilities being available for your use on your day of departure, and also shower facilities for after your sporty antics of the day.


As an alternative, the ski lockers at several of the lift stations have double or quad lockers which will easily fit suitcases - see e.g. https://www.bruendl.at/en/services/shopping-experience/ski-depot.

For the season pass question, the break-even point is around 15 days, so two weeks of 6 days each is cheaper with individual 6 day tickets. On the other hand, the season pass is an incentive to fit in a long weekend or two wink


Thanks very useful. Now to work out how to tag people properly in posts!

I could just buy the season pass and see how it goes...... wink
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@TomBH, you can quickly tag people by clicking on their name in the left hand column beside their post. Note click - not drag, as that scares the security hamsters by adding a JavaScript link…

Or simply bold their name and add an @ sign, as that’s all the click does
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tatmantours I've seen many people ask for your guide, is there a chance I can hold of it at all?

@TomBH, certainly, just send me a PM (click on the + symbol next to my moniker in the left-hand margin) with your email address.
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tatmanstours wrote:
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tatmantours I've seen many people ask for your guide, is there a chance I can hold of it at all?

@TomBH, certainly, just send me a PM (click on the + symbol next to my moniker in the left-hand margin) with your email address.


Thanks - have sent!
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Autumn seems to be going according to plan, with a dusting of snow above mid-station, and (after a few days of warmer, autumnal weather) snowfall forecast for next weekend. The first lifts are expected to open on 26th November. Fingers crossed.
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Looking at Zell webcams they’ve been firing the cannon on the sunny Red runs whatever that area is called. Hochgurgl going full blast for the last 2 or 3 days.
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@tatmanstours, Hi I arrive in Hinterglemm on the 11th December, do you know which Huts, restaurants, bars etc will be open then?
Thanks
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@Yorksboy,
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Hi I arrive in Hinterglemm on the 11th December, do you know which Huts, restaurants, bars etc will be open then?
Thanks

I can't be specific, but I'd guess that most will be open by then - certainly enough to cater for your needs. I have a feeling that mid-December might be busier than usual, although obviously nowhere near as busy as during the main season.
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tatmanstours wrote:
I have a feeling that mid-December might be busier than usual, although obviously nowhere near as busy as during the main season.


Just out of curiosity, why?

We’re (Dachstein West) scheduled to open around the end of the first week in December. One of my favourite times for skiing as its almost like having one’s own private ski resort Toofy Grin
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@Cacciatore,
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tatmanstours wrote:
I have a feeling that mid-December might be busier than usual, although obviously nowhere near as busy as during the main season.


Just out of curiosity, why?


Just intuition, based on the impression that so many people seem to be rattling for skiing, like
the addicts that they probably are. I’ve gained that impression from the many messages and enquiries I’ve had during the last six months, and from the level of enthusiasm here in the resort, and evident on Facebook. “Can’t wait” just about sums it up.
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Cacciatore wrote:
tatmanstours wrote:
I have a feeling that mid-December might be busier than usual, although obviously nowhere near as busy as during the main season.


Just out of curiosity, why?

We’re (Dachstein West) scheduled to open around the end of the first week in December. One of my favourite times for skiing as its almost like having one’s own private ski resort Toofy Grin


Bergfestival on the 10th, Rave On Snow on the 14th
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@tatmanstours, thanks for the reply. I’ve skied in January since 2006 and often in March as well. I did a week in December 2018 and had a great time on very quite slopes with plenty of snow - mind you it was in the run up to “snowmagedon” .

None of the big apres bars had started up, but most huts were open.

Don’t really want to dwell on COVID, but it’s obviously going to have an effect. I’ve managed to order and receive my season pass. It looks like the Austrian government are firming up their plans for winter tourism. I just wondered what the thoughts were from the businesses in the area. Last year must have been tight, hopefully we can offer our support by giving our custom this season.

I too thinks that December could be busier than normal. Not sure how many brits will get out before Xmas week as it looks like a lot of the very early season flights are being cancelled - I’ve had to rebook a few!

Anyway, I’m looking forwards to getting back in the mountains soon.
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@Yorksboy, I don’t think anyone knows how it’s going to pan out, but the local businesses that depend on tourism are obviously eager, if not desperate, for a return to relative normality, and a lot of them wouldn’t be able to afford any more lockdowns or closures.
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@tatmanstours, Sent you a message!
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Just pulled the trigger on a trip to Leogang, 15-22 Dec. Got everything crossed that we are allowed to go!
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Hi folks, started following the thread again. Our trip to Saalbach end March last year was cancelled so looking now and also considering a pre Xmas visit - backing up your theory @tatmanstours Very Happy
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Does anyone have a view yet on changes to number of flights in and out to Salzburg etc. Starting to look at trip logistics and assume a few things may have changed from last / a normal year?

Last time we'd booked to fly into Munich (as way cheaper at the time), need to check if that's now difficult with Covid rules crossing borders etc. Anyone already done the research (he says lazily) Toofy Grin
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@Rowlski, here are the flights into Salzburg, ignore BA from Gatwick they won’t be flying out of there until the end of next summer
https://ypsilon.net/flightplan/salzburg/szg.pdf
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@Rowlski, this thread is quite active on entry into Austria https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=153006&start=3120
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Thanks @radar, I am only just getting back into Snowhead mode and haven't found all the useful threads so ta for pointing me in the right direction!
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@Rowlski, as far as flying into Munich is concerned there should be little issue assuming you are fully vaccinated (this excludes the remote possibility that inhabitants of the plague ridden island are banned again). Those with teenage kids might face more of a problem. No issue travelling to Austria, not been any checks for many months. Once you are in Austria you will need a "green pass" ie an app proving you are vaccinated etc. (certainly for bars & restaurants, maybe for hotels, possibly for ski lifts). Again no issue for vaccinated adults & kids under 12 but potentially painful for teenagers (might have to have daily tests). There does seem to be an "issue" with NHS vaccine certs but this is supposed to be getting fixed in the near future.

Returning from Munich should be straight forward. My business partner flew Lufthansa to Manchester and said it was easy, documents checked at the gate with no issues. However there have been reports of having to troop off to some remote spot to get a stamp to prove you have the right bits of paper.
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Hmmmm ... @munich_irish, I fall into the troublesome category then as will have a 13 year old in tow. Reading the thread @radar posted that does seem to be a bit of a faff but probably doable. Definitely needs more careful planning with the teenager Confused
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@Rowlski
Have you investigated your flight options?
Easyjet, Austrian Airlines, BA, Jet2 are all probable options. Guess being in oxfordshire you could prob easily get to Bristol & B’rum
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@Mr.Egg, all flight information in one place, from the Salzburg Airpot newsletter https://ypsilon.net/flightplan/salzburg/szg.pdf, ignore BA Gatwick it's fiction Very Happy
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Hi all (again),

Having taken some of the recommendations from here, read some reviews and got them priced up it's come down to two hotels (partly availability and partly price). One in Hinterglemm, Hotel Glemmtalerhof and one in Saalbach, Hotel Kendler. Kendler will be £400pp more expensive though for the week.

I've read a lot about H v S and I think for us there's not much in it given for this holiday we are more likely to enjoy a quite evening in/in the spa than to head out to the bars (we might do some night skiing which favours Hinterglemm but Saalbach is perhaps a bit better located for lifts etc etc) so it comes down to whether we can justify the 25% uplift in cost for what looks like a marginally nicer hotel. I don't suppose anyone here happens to have stayed in both recently?!
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25% less & get the free bus
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