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Zermatt and Cervinia 2021-2022

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MHskier wrote:
Hopefully going back to Cervinia for a day in 2022 as part of our Aosta valley tour as we did two years ago. Loved the skiing there but two questions to possibly improve it:

I see that there's a new lift being put on up to Kleine Matterhorn - is that international pass only or can you start the Ventina run from up there?

At the bottom of run 16 into Cervinia town we ended up with a tricky finish then a tarmac walk back up to the nasty big concrete lift station in order to get us up to Plan Maison. Was there a cut through bit of piste we missed as we cam down into the town?


I’d be amazed if the new Klein Matterhorn / Alpine X lift is open by your trip but I think certain it would need the int’l pass to use.

On the run 16 you can turn off earlier and end up right by the base station of the plan maison cable car. To ski from plateau rosa direst to plan maison itself you need to go via theodulpass (start northwards down the theodolite glacier and take the firsts track left)
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Just to be clear(!) you need to turn off before you reach run 16 at around the point run 13 starts - once you reach the curl to area you are locked into run 16 and the two blacks
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@JohnMo, many thanks for the constant updates! Any info on the current snow conditions up there? I would like to go there next weekend (23/10), but don't really feel like traveling all the way from Holland if the snow is crap, and the forecast is looking far from promising...

Thanks!
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Wildsmith wrote:
@albob, 16th - 31st only the lifts up to plateaux rosa will open. There is a google docs link towards the bottom of this page (ORARI IMPIANTI CERVINO SPA):
https://cervinia.it/news/cervinia-inaugura-la-stagione-invernale-il-16-ottobre?fbclid=IwAR1vA5h_NmAslo-K99DT6SJIkco8a2Zb0wxjORmmDabgfsUTJy41sA9UZkA

Of course they could open Ventina and the run down via Theodulpass without opening more lifts!



The first thing they open is the Ventina (7) down from Testa Grigia down to Laghi Cime Bianche. The latter lift station is at about the same height as Trockener Steg just over the ridge on the Swiss side. However the Italian glacier does not extend as far down as the Swiss one (the former being south facing and the latter north) so you need a longer run of artificial or farmed snow to connect the end of the glacier to the lift station. While they don’t intend to open up any more Italian lifts until 31 October they certainly would open that run if they possibly could (the Italian lift company is better than the Swiss in that regard). However they have stated they are not opening it this Saturday and the snow forecasts are pretty poor for the next few days.

I don’t think they would ever open up the Theodulpass into Italy until they can get the (3) lifts running up to there from Plan Maison. Even if in theory they could open up the top two I don’t think they would do it as the downlifting from Fornet to Plan Maison would be a major faff. At present the snow line (never mind the practical skiing line) is way higher than Plan Maison.
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Gustavo the Gaper wrote:
@JohnMo, many thanks for the constant updates! Any info on the current snow conditions up there? I would like to go there next weekend (23/10), but don't really feel like traveling all the way from Holland if the snow is crap, and the forecast is looking far from promising...

Thanks!


At present the only thing open is still the summer ski area with the addition of the run down from there to Trockener Steg. I doubt it is worth driving all the way from the Netherlands just to do that. I always regard that as a nice one day activity when I am out there doing other stuff (walking, cycling). If the Furggsattel lift opens this weekend then there is at least a fairly decent skiing area (all on piste of course).

Even when Furggsattel opens you are still 90% skiing on glaciers. The snow on the glaciers is almost always good condition. It can get a bit slushy at the bottom in the summer but we are past that now and the temperatures have been encouragingly low up top. Having said that the Trockener Steg webcam shows a fair bit of melt of last week’s snow just in front of the lift station.

It is always a personal choice but if there is no more snow this week and next (and as I said above the forecast is not great) I wouldn’t drive out.
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JohnMo wrote:
Gustavo the Gaper wrote:
@JohnMo, many thanks for the constant updates! Any info on the current snow conditions up there? I would like to go there next weekend (23/10), but don't really feel like traveling all the way from Holland if the snow is crap, and the forecast is looking far from promising...

Thanks!


At present the only thing open is still the summer ski area with the addition of the run down from there to Trockener Steg. I doubt it is worth driving all the way from the Netherlands just to do that. I always regard that as a nice one day activity when I am out there doing other stuff (walking, cycling). If the Furggsattel lift opens this weekend then there is at least a fairly decent skiing area (all on piste of course).

Even when Furggsattel opens you are still 90% skiing on glaciers. The snow on the glaciers is almost always good condition. It can get a bit slushy at the bottom in the summer but we are past that now and the temperatures have been encouragingly low up top. Having said that the Trockener Steg webcam shows a fair bit of melt of last week’s snow just in front of the lift station.

It is always a personal choice but if there is no more snow this week and next (and as I said above the forecast is not great) I wouldn’t drive out.


Thanks a lot for the response!
I'd actually go by train, but still, it's a long trip. Very sad to admit but it looks as though I'm probably better off waiting a few more weeks and going in November... argh...
Anyway, I'll keep an eye on the forecast and on this thread. Please keep us posted if you have any news!
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Ah no! Just seen this. That would be seriously disappointing.

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JohnMo wrote:
Ah no! Just seen this. That would be seriously disappointing.



I sometimes think that Sherlock Holmes would struggle working out what was opening when in Zermatt. That message from the Zermatt Facebook page looks rubbish. A couple of the chalet companies were saying they would open Furggsattel tomorrow. You can see from this webcam screenshot that that must be the case. They are running the lifts and in the bottom left you can see they have completed the snow track round to the entrance to lift entry gates.

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Oh, that's good news, thanks! I'll check back tomorrow to see if it's open.
Also, the forecast has changed it looks as though there might be some snow at the end of next week. It's starting to look a bit more promising.
https://www.bergfex.com/zermatt/wetter/berg/
Earlier today it actually showed 30cm (and considerably lower temperatures), now it's only about 10cm, but still better than nothing.
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Trockner does not look pleasant to me!. January earliest I fear.
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Yep. Furggsattel opened today (including the access from the Italian side). @twoodwar, I agree it looks very scratchy around Trockener Steg. But I think it will be fine on the glacier which is 80% of the run and 100% of the fun. I won’t be finding out until some time in November.

Still no snow over next few days. A little more hope later in the week - but little confidence that far out.

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@JohnMo, enjoy the skiing.Muddy golf for me for a while!
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