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Ski hire - what "level"

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,

I cant find a thread on this - although I am sure it is out there.

I am a "one week a year" skier. I am competent on-piste doing blues and reds as I have skied frequently though not every years over the last 25ish years. I can get down blacks but have no great desire to hurtle down the mountain at high speeds and have never developed the skill to do it well. I don't go off-piste, though my daughter spent last year in Austria and has developed a taste for it.

Soooo...when renting skis there are normally 3 levels (Bronze/Silver/Gold :: 4*/5*/6* :: EVOLUTION/SENSATION/PERFORMANCE etc. etc)

I normally pick the middle one because to be honest I don't have a clue. Would I actually have the skill to make any use out of the top level of ski? In fact should I just be hiring for the entry level ski?

Many thanks
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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IME. It depends on the quality and condition of the Skis you are given. If the Gold Skis are newer, I'd go for those.

The other thing you can do, is check out the models listed under the the categories and then look at reviews on them (or ask on here)....and choose accordingly.


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The more you pay the more choice you tend to get or get to demand. I don't think there is any standard definition of what skis fall in which class - older or more "standard rental fleet" skis in lower end, newer or more specialist skis in upper end.
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My wife who is an low intermediate skier was very surprised how much difference there was between the skis she tried out at last weekend's ski test. So it may be worth risking getting the highest grade for a week if they allow you to chop and change skis and try out a few different styles.
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@pieman666, I like this idea of being able to change to actually see if I notice a difference. So perhaps the top level for me and the expert skier and middle for the others....
I still fondly remember a pair a Völkl skis I hired in Wengen - they just seemed to work for me.
@Old Fartbag, Good call I will check some the reviews of the ski models offered.
@Dave of the Marmottes, Makes sense

I will do some research!
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pieman666 wrote:
it may be worth risking getting the highest grade for a week if they allow you to chop and change skis and try out a few different styles.


This is the important bit. As long as you can change the skis during the week, the 'level' may not matter too much.
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When I hired from "Deep Snow" Ski Set shop in Val Claret, we went with Gold Standard. My Daughter was given new skis and I was given very good condition skis.

We were allowed one change in the week, which I took advantage of, as I found the Blizzard Quattros I was given, too planky for my taste (and weight) - and ended up with some Head Magnums, which I loved (though the edges could have been sharper).
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Treat yourself to some top rank skis for once and, unless you fall in love with the first pair, take full advantage of the ability to swap and try: the same ski in a different length/the equivalent ski from a different brand/a different width ski depending if it does or doesn't snow mid-week/etc.

If after a week of Champagne hire skis you can't tell any difference from the Cava or Asti Spumante skis you've had in the past, well you know to just save your money next time.
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It's interesting that many believe that the rental version of a ski is the same as the consumer version.
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spyderjon wrote:
It's interesting that many believe that the rental version of a ski is the same as the consumer version.


It's interesting that you think people could tell the difference Toofy Grin
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@spyderjon, other than maybe the rail / consumer type bindings is the construction different on rentals but same paintjob?
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Belch wrote:
@spyderjon, other than maybe the rail / consumer type bindings is the construction different on rentals but same paintjob?

Yep, that's pretty common.
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@spyderjon, You learn something everyday! Good thing I don't rent then . . .
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
If you're renting, you're a beginner, beyond that you would never use the junk they rent you.
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@CH2O, you're on form tonight bud. Back full time yet?
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 Poster: A snowHead
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CH2O wrote:
If you're renting, you're a beginner, beyond that you would never use the junk they rent you.


Guy Clarey in Tignes has a few pairs of his sons world cup race skis for hire. You are definitely not a beginner if you are on these.
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@ado, I always rent nowadays, mostly so I can try a variety of new kit and swap it several times a day if I need to.
I always try to check out which is the best ski rental shop for me, rather than rushing into the first or cheapest.
Its hard sometimes as you'll find that the shop's websites nearly always offer tempting discounts for booking in advance. Then yur stuck.
I've got a bit of a problem this season though (one of those pleasent problems Very Happy )
I'm off to Kicking Horse, taking in Banff, Lake Louise and Revelstoke.
My plan this time is to pick up something I like the look of in Banff and try them out at Norquay, and
try and get all my swapping over and done with before we move on.
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It’s a good question you’ve posed. The stress of the rental shop and the level of ski. Am I getting ripped off etc. Depends on the shop, their stock, how late in the day you get there and the time of year. I remember once turning up at On the Snow in Nendaz, late on the Saturday of New Year week, a pile of scrap left, tired and emotional shop workers who had clearly had enough. My ‘Platinum’ option didn’t get very good value for money. Drove me to buy skis 15 years ago and I happily cart them around everywhere. Currently on Elan Ripsticks for pottering around the mountain. I really like them. Strangely they are ‘handed’ which kinda makes sense and Soul 7’s for the deeper stuff and these are user friendly skis too. I have old Head Peak 78’s for Glenshee and Glencoe but they are pretty gubbed.
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@ado,
http://youtube.com/v/d7O0S-bct40 worth watching.
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CH2O wrote:
If you're renting, you're a beginner, beyond that you would never use the junk they rent you.


This is simply not true. I have been skiing for 50+ years and have never bought skis.
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pieman666 wrote:
@ado,
http://youtube.com/v/d7O0S-bct40 worth watching.


Definitely an interesting watch, although I found it strange that they said they weren't going to talk about boot fitting as it was too complicated for a podcast, but then proceeded to talk about boot fitting for 20mins of a 25min podcast. I was hoping they were going to talk about renting skis and getting the right ski for your skill level (as per the OP) but they only spent a minute or so on that - and one of the things they said was that most shops these days have new skis every season, which I'm not sure is true. I always assumed that (outside beginner or expert skis) the main distinguisher between Bronze/Silver/Gold on-piste skis was age.
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CH2O wrote:
If you're renting, you're a beginner, beyond that you would never use the junk they rent you.


Not really, for 1 week a year a pair of skis is a lot of investment + then paying to take them on a plane. £74 with easy jet.
More economical to rent the latest gear.. Even if you pay £100 to rent, that is only £26 more than taking your own, which you would have paid a few hundred pounds for.
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Mr.Egg wrote:
......More economical to rent the latest gear....

But is it the latest gear? Looks can be deceiving.


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@Handy Turnip, I must admit I posted it before I had watched it .. I agree it's a shame they didn't spend more time talking about renting skis. I don't think they script the episodes beyond a title which sometimes works well but other times they drift off...
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