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Anyone got an AHC for their pet yet?

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Just back from our French Vet. He says the two requirements are 1) French address, and 2) get the microchip registered in France. No 2 involves posting a form and a wait of around 2 weeks. Will let you know if we are successful!
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@Matt1959, like I said before it's quite a long meeting/process to get the French passports, and would help if you know the vet well as maybe they are bending the rules a little to accommodate non French residents.

And you have to fill in various forms for the microchip switch and send a cheque, all a tad ironic in bending the rules n'est pas ? Laughing
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@Weathercam, yet others have visited different vets and got the passports very quickly for a very reasonable fee. Apparently the vet in Bourg D'Oisans is very clued up on it all according to a friend over that side of the Col.
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@Hells Bells, so how many Snow Heads have actually done this, what sort of numbers are we talking about elsewhere, were they residents or not?
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@Weathercam, Debit card for us! Mind you, the young assistant Vet was having to show the boss how he could use the scanner to scan the AHC and attach it to something in the system.
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Like I say I do think it all mildly ironic given the shite I was given on here for traveling to France on the basis of having potential French residency, or not, and how now it seems ok to try and bend the rules to achieve Euro residency for their pets Laughing Laughing
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Our pooch has been flipped to French passport. €51 euros for the appointment and then the worming fee to come back.
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@Hells Bells, so how many Snow Heads have actually done this, what sort of numbers are we talking about elsewhere, were they residents or not?


Some second home owners and non-French
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@Weathercam, not all my friends are snowHeads.
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Might try this if we ever get back over with the dog
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@Hells Bells, so are they official French residents (Carte sejour) or just second home owners, if not French Residents it's bending the rules in it ? Laughing
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Just got our 2 dogs French passports at the local vets, but there is nothing in the rabies section? Seems to think as they are in trhe UK one, that will be fine for when we come back.....hmmmmm
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@Philip1972, I'd double check that if possible as the passports for our two have all the rabies data transcribed across, I'll post a pic later.

And was thinking that if you have a Euro passport will all future jabs have to be non UK administered.

And I'm just back from our vets who rang me up explaining (or at least trying to as I could not understand), even though I gave the phone to a friend who said they needed the paperwork/passport by end of play today. So rushed down only to be told it was another Brit who had a problem with theirs, why the feck they couldn't call me back Puzzled

@Philip1972, your surname isn't Pickles and you don't have a dog called Oscar ? Laughing
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No I am not a Pickles, but I do often find myself in them Very Happy
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For a stay of more than 3 months under a visa it is a legal requirement to get a French (EU) document for your dog, according to their DEFRA equivalent

https://www.i-cad.fr/articles/brexit-delivrer-passeport-francais-chien-chat-furet-titulaire-passeport-royaume-uni

https://www.i-cad.fr/articles/importation-animal-france-pays-tiers-demarches

My French vet told me in January he would be able to issue a passport for my dog in August when we usually go for a month, but once done it can only be updated with new vaccinations in France. If you let the vaccine lapse the titre test would need re doing. He didn't ask if I was resident, but knows I have a French address.

I also phoned the Pet Travel helpline to check there wouldn't be any problem from our Government's view if my dog travels on an EU passport and she said most people that travel often have EU passports for their dogs, it is no problem. I haven't yet contacted the French, but it is the ferry company that checks documents, so plan to just ask them when I go out in August with my AHC to make sure I wouldn't have trouble in December, ie. Uk residents on a visa for 4 months with a French passport dog.
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Ju st being reading the back end of the thread, does this mean that if you are a 2nd home owner in France yiu can get a French pet passport rather than use the ahic?
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Just back from the vets where pup was getting some more jabs and I asked her about French passports and residency and she said that as far as she knows there's no need to have French residency and how in fact it's much easier than before end of December to do the passports!

She also said dogs could get rabies jab in UK and that vet could enter details in the French passports sans issue.

@ajc2260626 obviously you're going to have to get an AHC to get to France but once here you can then get the passport.
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@Weathercam, good news then. At least once we manage to get to France we will be able to get the passport issued.
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@Hells Bells, well you wouldn't Adam and Eve it!!!!

Get back home and OH checks the post, not something we do every day, and there's a letter from I-Cad dated 15th July giving us 48hrs to respond as on our application (which the French vet did) there's a missing health certificate for one of the dogs!!

So rush back to the vet and this time of year on a Friday holiday traffic is a PITA and I've had to leave everything at the vets as the two receptionists couldn't work it out, so awaiting the vet to call me.

So it's all by no means devoid of issues, and I'd say you'd probably need more than a couple of weeks to make sure all is well?

Maybe two dogs swapping over just makes it more compliqué Puzzled

Further Edit vets rang and they've emailed to I-Cad the missing paperwork and there's no need to worry, still means I have to go back down tomorrow to get all the passports back!
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@Weathercam, @Hells Bells, We've been told differently about the rabies vaccination-that it will need to be done in France. However, I think there is still a high degree of confusion and uncertainty. Our UK vets phoned us while we were away saying that they had been informed that the way they had stamped AHCs was wrong and that we might have difficulties. However as we were already going down the pet passport route we didn't need to worry too much.
A mate in the 3V who got their pooch a pet passport at a vet in Moutiers, was told at Eurotunnel Pet Check In that it was wrong and he had to take the dog to a vet in Calais to sort it before he could come home!
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@Perty, yes I'm not relying on follow up rabies jabs in the UK, ours run out in Nov so we'll get them done here in France just before we come back when we get them checked out for retour anyway.
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@Philip1972, I'd double check that if possible as the passports for our two have all the rabies data transcribed across, I'll post a pic later.

And was thinking that if you have a Euro passport will all future jabs have to be non UK administered.

And I'm just back from our vets who rang me up explaining (or at least trying to as I could not understand), even though I gave the phone to a friend who said they needed the paperwork/passport by end of play today. So rushed down only to be told it was another Brit who had a problem with theirs, why the feck they couldn't call me back Puzzled

@Philip1972, your surname isn't Pickles and you don't have a dog called Oscar ? Laughing


I was concerned about this so I popped back to the vets this morning. I explained to him, he shrugged and said "it is not necessary, but i can do it", so he did. I am much happier now Very Happy
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@Perty, the next jab will have to be done in France, but the current one is OK if it was done before the 31st Dec 2020.
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@Perty, @Weathercam, @Hells Bells, there is a LOT of confusion (on both sides of the channel it seems) but be VERY clear, UK vets cannot fill in an EU passport to certify rabies vaccination. If you get an EU passport (sensible), it will need to be kept valid by doing rabies vaccines in the EU. A Pre-brexit EU passport filled in by a UK vet pre brexit is fine, a uk pet passport is scrap paper (except if an EU vet will transcribe it into an EU passport for you)
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@gilo, does this mean if I take my old pet passport to an eu vet, they will make an eu one?!?! But all rabies shots need to be done in the the eu rather than the uk?
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@gilo, I know they can't, I'm not sure why anyone is actually thinking that I said that?
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@gilo, I've just noticed properly what @Weathercam said. If you have a rabies jab in the UK after 31.12.20 you need an AHC. My question now is, if you have done this (and it doesn't apply to my dogs) and go to France with an AHC, can the French vet enter that vaccination on the new EU passport?
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@ajc2260626, they may…… the “rules” for getting an EU passport seem pretty nebulous and applied very differently by different vets. But yes, the old uk passport should be good proof if they’re minded to accept it. Or they may insist on vaccination again and a restart

Re the 2nd part of your question, yes, all rabies vaccination will need to be done and certified in the EU. This might be every 3 years in some places but could be annually in eg Spain.
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@Hells Bells, apologies, was just including you in the conversation, not attributing any statements to you.

I don’t know the legalities but EU vets certainly can and do transcribe AHCs to EU passports. Having an old UK passport is probably even smoother but essentially they contain the same information so if a french vet is minded to be helpful then either should suffice. The massive unknown is if or when french or EU bureaucracy will tighten the rules, issue fresh guidance or close this glaring loophole…….. The aggro over the NI protocols probably won’t help.
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@gilo, my apologies too. Bit stressed after major emergency with one of our dogs.
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While the rules may be nebulous there are a number of real world situations where someone who is not resident - or even has a second home - in the EU can end up with an EU Pet Passport. If you import a dog into the UK from the EU they come with a passport…..
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Matt1959 wrote:
.... If you import a dog into the UK from the EU they come with a passport…..


And that then raises the question can a UK vet then do the rabies jabs and enter those into the EU passport, or do you have to go back to an EU country as per what @gilo, stated Puzzled

Went back to the vets yesterday to get the passports after the mistakes I mentioned, that was 5 X in four days, imagine that on your two-week break!
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Matt1959 wrote:
While the rules may be nebulous there are a number of real world situations where someone who is not resident - or even has a second home - in the EU can end up with an EU Pet Passport. If you import a dog into the UK from the EU they come with a passport…..


good point, well made.
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@Matt1959, that’s a whole new can of worm…….. Technically they should never have come with a passport, even pre brexit but certainly not post. Of course they have been, and spectacularly abused by “rescues” (read puppy farmers conning gullible brits to part with hard cash for Eastern European sob stories). I’d expect it will get tightened up, especially if the EU stick with AHC requirements for long.

@Weathercam, the same will apply, a UK vet CANNOT make any entry in an EU passport (except to certify tapeworm treatment for the very few countries that demand it prior to entry)
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