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Another update.

Now been back in CH for 48 hours, and received an email from the Bern contact tracing service:

Dear Sir / Madam

You have entered Switzerland from a region that the Federal Office of Public Health has designated as having an increased risk of infection.

You are now required to quarantine and to report your arrival in Switzerland to the Canton of Bern as specified in the leaflet attached.
You can find the registration form here: https://contacttracing.ctbern.ch/Inbound.

If you have already registered, you can disregard this message.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
COVID-19 Contact Tracing Bern
+41 31 636 80 00, corona.ct@be.ch
Department of Health, Social Services and Integration, Office of health
Rathausgasse 1, P.O. Box, 3000 Bern 8
www.be.ch/gsi


There are hefty fines for failing to quarantine, so I replied, to the effect that I am fully vaccinated and therefore shouldn’t have to quarantine.

I got the following reply a few minutes later:

Dear Mr. telford_mike

Thank you for your e-mail.

This e-mail is an automatically generated message for everyone flying to Switzerland. But in your case, you are right that you don’t have to quarantine.

We are sorry for the misunderstanding and wish you a nice stay in Switzerland.

Kind regards,


CT 274, Contact Tracing


So, if you travel here by air, you can expect a scary email from your canton telling you to quarantine, whether you actually have to isolate or not!
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@telford_mike, Bern is always super keen, I bet Appenzeller Inner hasnt even got email
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Basel-Stadt is even keener. My partner returned last night and this afternoon got a more detailed version of the above which included the dates he has to quarantine for and all sorts of links to the various applicable laws/rules. Except the important one that says he doesn‘t have to quarantine as he‘s fully vaccinated! The covering email did include the line
Quote:
If you have an exception from quarantine, you may ignore this mail.


But no link to what constitutes an exception. rolling eyes

He also got what he assumes is a related email saying:

Quote:
Thank you very much for downloading the COVID Care App of both Cantons of Basel and for your help in containing the COVID-19 epidemic


Together with his login information for above said app, which he‘s not downloaded and which neither of us have ever heard of before. Puzzled

So be aware, the cantons don‘t seem to have caught up!

@Nadenoodlee, didn‘t everyone in Appenzeller Innerrhoden already get it last summer from some super-spreading yodelling festival? wink
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@Gämsbock, that was Schwyz, jesus last Summer was wild Very Happy but it was probably a Heidi festival or something or the weird stand and vote in the town square stuff in AI
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@Nadenoodlee, Laughing
I‘ve just remembered, it‘s Appenzell Ausserrhoden I‘m thinking of, it was the wedding where they all agreed not to get tested so that no one would have to quarantine…
https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/corona-alarm-in-ausserrhoden-coronafall-an-hochzeit-gaeste-liessen-sich-extra-nicht-testen

All of them are on my „special“ canton list and I get them confused. Laughing
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Apologies if I have missed it on this or another thread but I'm trying to work out the position of someone returning to the UK from Switzerland by road via France under the new rules which require quarantine for people arriving in the UK from France. I seem to recall that last year, at a time when France was also in a higher risk category than Switzerland, you would be effectively treated as arriving from Switzerland even if you had driven through France so long as you effectively drove straight through without stopping except for fuel. Does anyone know if this same rule still applies under the new arrangements?
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@whollymoley, unfortunately not, it‘s entry from, i.e. includes transit.

Government website
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fully-vaccinated-arrivals-from-france-to-england-must-continue-to-quarantine

Quote:
France is on the amber list for entering England. From 19 July anyone arriving from France to England must continue to quarantine for 10 days at home or in other accommodation, even if they are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.


BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57869880

Quote:
The government announcement means that anyone who has been in France in the previous 10 days will need to quarantine on arrival to England in their own accommodation and will need a day two and day eight test, regardless of their vaccination status.
This includes any fully vaccinated individual who transits through France from either a green or another amber country.


In case it is relevant, note also that the UK considers Basel airport to be France.
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Thanks for the reply - even if it's not what I wanted to hear!
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@whollymoley, you‘re welcome and sorry about that Sad
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I know all the information is above. I have read that and I have read the various Swiss sites. However i just want to quadruple check. I am (finally after 18 months) flying out to Switzerland a week on Wednesday (abandoned driving so only need to concentrate on one country). I am double jabbed (couple of months ago -:AstaZeneca). I have the following:

1. Proof of vaccine on NHS app plus a print out.
2. Swiss entry form completed plus a print out.

I think that is all I need. Grateful for anyone agreeing/disagreeing.
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Thanks for asking this question, as I was reading on the gov.uk website that
“Switzerland has not yet confirmed that it will accept the UK solutions for demonstrating your COVID vaccination status.”
I wondered what that means in practice, as I’ll be travelling to Geneva from Dublin on an Irish passport but vaccinated in NI.
However, the questionnaire on the Swiss government page suggests it is fine for me to travel and isn’t specific on the type of proof it requires.
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Sounds like good news for returning Brits
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9825779/Double-jabbed-British-expats-travel-rules-eased-month.html
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Rois1980 wrote:
Thanks for asking this question, as I was reading on the gov.uk website that
“Switzerland has not yet confirmed that it will accept the UK solutions for demonstrating your COVID vaccination status.”
I wondered what that means in practice, as I’ll be travelling to Geneva from Dublin on an Irish passport but vaccinated in NI.
However, the questionnaire on the Swiss government page suggests it is fine for me to travel and isn’t specific on the type of proof it requires.


Can you upload your NI status into the French app (England vaccine status works for this) and then use the French app?
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Ahhh I’ll try that @snowdave , thank you. That’s when I get my NI cert - the only people who can get one at the minute are those travelling before 31st.
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JohnMo wrote:
I know all the information is above. I have read that and I have read the various Swiss sites. However i just want to quadruple check. I am (finally after 18 months) flying out to Switzerland a week on Wednesday (abandoned driving so only need to concentrate on one country). I am double jabbed (couple of months ago -:AstaZeneca). I have the following:

1. Proof of vaccine on NHS app plus a print out.
2. Swiss entry form completed plus a print out.

I think that is all I need. Grateful for anyone agreeing/disagreeing.

I hope so, because I'm flying to GVA tomorrow and working on the same basis!
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Rois1980 wrote:
Thanks for asking this question, as I was reading on the gov.uk website that
“Switzerland has not yet confirmed that it will accept the UK solutions for demonstrating your COVID vaccination status.”
I wondered what that means in practice, as I’ll be travelling to Geneva from Dublin on an Irish passport but vaccinated in NI.
However, the questionnaire on the Swiss government page suggests it is fine for me to travel and isn’t specific on the type of proof it requires.


They said in one of the gov press conferences it might take a while for mutual recognition of all the apps. The recommended in the interim to carry a printed copy of the vaccine certificate. I’ve heard of lots of people getting into CH from UK with no issues so as long as you’ve got this you’ll be fine. I’ve not heard of anyone having issues at all.

The text sounds like the UK government trying to pretend that the Swiss government is the issue in mutual vaccine recognition. rolling eyes
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@Rois1980, the Swiss government website says quite clearly here (my bold):

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/empfehlungen-fuer-reisende/quarantaene-einreisende.html?fbclid=IwAR17GdCtsG1RbM11mamHaRLst3XNGBuyBXYcHyx1797D_HidkJ7BqrzrJJc#1355154378

Quote:
COVID-19 vaccination requirements
People who are fully vaccinated are exempt from many health-related measures at the border. These exemptions apply to people who have been vaccinated with one of the following vaccines:

Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2 / Comirnaty® / Tozinameran)
Moderna (mRNA-1273 / Spikevax / COVID-19 vaccine Moderna)
AstraZeneca (AZD1222 Vaxzevria®/ Covishield™)
Janssen / Johnson & Johnson (Ad26.COV2.S)
Sinopharm / BIBP (SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine (Vero Cell))
Sinovac (CoronaVac)
Do you not have a COVID certificate that is recognised in Switzerland? In this case, in addition to your last name, first name and date of birth, your proof of vaccination must also include the date of vaccination and the vaccine used.


I believe the NHS vaccination certificates include all that hence no issues.
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We went into Switzerland from France last week using a series of lifts and walking. We did stick our passports in the backpack and had our vaccine double jabbedness on our phones. Had a cup of coffee and a drink and returned to France for lunch.
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Thank you @Gämsbock, still can’t generate my NI cert but hoping they have followed the English NHS in format!

The south of Ireland opened bars and restaurants today (indoor) where you need proof of double vaccination. As most in the North don’t have the certs yet, they are accepting the little hand written cards from the vaccine centres.
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iainm wrote:
JohnMo wrote:
I know all the information is above. I have read that and I have read the various Swiss sites. However i just want to quadruple check. I am (finally after 18 months) flying out to Switzerland a week on Wednesday (abandoned driving so only need to concentrate on one country). I am double jabbed (couple of months ago -:AstaZeneca). I have the following:

1. Proof of vaccine on NHS app plus a print out.
2. Swiss entry form completed plus a print out.

I think that is all I need. Grateful for anyone agreeing/disagreeing.

I hope so, because I'm flying to GVA tomorrow and working on the same basis!


Depending where you’re flying from, I would highly recommend getting an antigen test before you check-in. We certainly needed this flying from Manchester.
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@telford_mike, just read back your post about flying on 12th to try to figure this out. My partner flew back from Manchester to CH the day after you and didn‘t need the antigen test, though he had got one just in case. He was 15 days post second jab, was it only because your vaccination certificate wasn‘t recognised for being 7 days post second jab that they asked for it? I‘m wondering because we both have to go over next week and were thinking not to bother with the pre-flight antigen this time.
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https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/empfehlungen-fuer-reisende/quarantaene-einreisende.html

no quarantine nor test required if fully vaxxed, even from UK, India or Nepal
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@under a new name, oh but if but actual rules and check-in interpretation of rules were always the same thing wink, not to mention airlines having their own rules rolling eyes. I think that @telford_mike and my partner flew the same route a day apart, and both decided to get antigen tests as backup „just in case“ - and then my partner was not asked for his whereas @telford_mike was. Based on my partner‘s earlier experience we‘d more or less decided not to waste money on yet another bl00dy COVID test for our upcoming trip but I‘m now wondering based on @telford_mike‘s experience. But if it was only required because he wasn‘t 14 days post second jab then I think we‘re ok.
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Gämsbock wrote:
@telford_mike, just read back your post about flying on 12th to try to figure this out. My partner flew back from Manchester to CH the day after you and didn‘t need the antigen test, though he had got one just in case. He was 15 days post second jab, was it only because your vaccination certificate wasn‘t recognised for being 7 days post second jab that they asked for it? I‘m wondering because we both have to go over next week and were thinking not to bother with the pre-flight antigen this time.


Yes our second jabs were only a few days old. But they were also asking for all sorts of random stuff like residence permits (which we had) so they weren’t up to date with the Swiss requirements at all. Hopefully they've improved by now.
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snowdave wrote:


Can you upload your NI status into the French app (England vaccine status works for this) and then use the French app?


Thanks again for this - just got my NI cert and it uploaded really easily with the fireworks to tell me it was successfully done.
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@Rois1980, glad it worked! Slightly embarrassing how easy the interoperability seems to be for some providers Happy

P.S. I love the fireworks.
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@telford_mike, my partner was also asked for his Swiss residence permit, at multiple points on the journey. However despite showing it in Amsterdam en route back to CH, they still insisted on stamping his passport to demonstrate the date he entered Schengen and were under the impression he should have had an exit stamp when he left Puzzled
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Ok, so my understanding is that from the UK to Switzerland, vaccinated parents are OK, but un vaccinated kids are still obliged to quarantine regardless of negative test?
To complicate matters, what is the case if you go UK to France, stay in France for 2 weeks then drive to Switzerland (which we plan to do). Does this mean un vaccinated kids will be OK?

So confusing!
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@ish303, if you spend two weeks (or even 10 days) in France then your unvaccinated kids can enter Switzerland with no problem. Switzerland care about where you have been the last 10 days so if you were in France for that time the fact that you were in the UK before is of no importance. See here:
https://travelcheck.admin.ch/check
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