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New Transceiver for 21/21? Recs please

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Our Mammut/Barryvoxs are now rather dated and it has been suggested we really, really need to update them. In fairness, thankfully, they have never been used in anger.

Thoughts/recommendations??

Thanks!
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Get the latest Barryvox (or Barryvox S if you really want to spend the money, although I wouldn't bother).

Streets ahead of anything else I've encountered.
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I've got the Barryvox S, and in the training sessions I've been in it has been much better than most of the others, to the point I had to remember it wasn't a competition and back off to let others have a chance to find the hidden transceiver. I think (from memory, and I might have got this wrong) that the only one that had similar performance was the Pieps(?) but that wasn't as easy to use in my view.
Also sat in a bar with some snowheads and did the peer to peer firmware upgrade, as one of the guys had the latest firmware, which turned out to be straightforward too.
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Thanks folks, rather thought that might be the response!
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Barryvox is great. S if you feel like spending the extra, but it’s not vital. We have one of each (thanks to a packing error from retailer, which gave me a free upgrade to the S!).
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As per the comment above, the Barryvox S is so good it’s like cheating Very Happy

I did side by side testing of the Pieps Pro, Ortovox S1, Tracker 3, Arva Axio and my Barryvox Pulse. In my testing the Barryvox was quickest and easiest, but did have interference issues, fast moving stop messages, and the LCD screen could freeze going from jacket to -15C temperatures.

Since those issues have been fixed with the latest models, they are easily the best. The intelligent search in particular is amazing.
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Barryvox S. A few seconds can save a life!
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
I retired my first year Pulse in favour of the Barryvox last year. It's the best piece of equipment I hope never to use. Even better than the Petzl rad line I hopefully won't use either.
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Barryvox - not the S unless you are Geek and will use it a lot - the standard one is simpler to use

On my ski patrol course last November/December, Barryvoxes were proved to be the longest range and equaly the easyiest to use - just let it do its work and don't rush.

I am well practiced, but on my pro exam, any time under 3min 20, for trancivers minimum depth 50cm is considered good enough for maximum points - I managed 1min50 the fastest of the day.
With the ammount of practice we did, I though everyone would get 10point - 60% didn't......slowest time was 7 min 20, still not terrible.
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If you need to wear reading glasses then you need a display/buttons that can be read without having to dig out your specs from your pack.


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@spyderjon, a very good point!!
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@spyderjon, a very good point!!

'Back in the day' (mid 2000's) I walked in to a shop (EB's on Bold Street, Liverpool IIRC) to buy my first transceiver and asked the assistant if I could have a play with the extensive range they had on display. As he was getting them out of the cabinet I took out my reading specs from my pocket - upon which the assistant pushed all but one aside as he said that was the only one that I'd be able to read without my specs. He was right. I've had a few since then and it's the first thing I look for as my eyes have now deteriorated a lot more since my first purchase.
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@spyderjon, it is a very good point. Mine have too. Mind you I am trying progressive lenses which seem to work pretty well.
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You know it makes sense.
@under a new name, Another vote for Barryvox S.

Much better screen than the "non S", and unless you actively choose to alter the configuration it's slightly simpler to use in default mode- on screen graphical guidance and smart search aren't available on the lower model. Whilst I can see the argument that it might have redundant features, I don't understand why it gets perceived as more complex in use, it's as complex as you want to make it _on startup_. My 9-yr old had no problems, and was faster than with her Tracker 2.

In my own practice at the avi park at grands montets, it got me exactly to each target first time, every time.
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@under a new name, I wear varifocals daily and switch to 'readers' for workshop use or if I'm on my laptop for more than a few minutes. Have tried skiing in my varifocals a few times and I've been all over the show. Luckily my mid/distance sight is still fine for skiing without specs in all but the worst light but thankfully Prizm Hi-Pinks have staved off the need for specs for a few more years.
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@snowdave, interesting, thanks. I do feel the argument is circling around to the "S" ...

@spyderjon, hmmmm, when I got my varifocals the very nice Specsaver did say that they were usually a bit "Marmite". In my case I've loved them and find the progressive contacts very nice as well. Going to see the eye doctors in Annemasse in a few weeks - Mrs U wants lasering ... we shall see what's new.
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@snowdave, I haven't properly tried the S myself, it's mostly that the standard Barryvox is so good I can't really see what justifies the extra €100-odd.

My only direct experience with it was an interesting one though. I was running a training session for a family group. Dad had his own Barryvox S, Mum & kids (both under 10) were using my standard Barryvoxes (Barryvoxi? Barryvoxen?). Kids were zooming straight to the buried targets while Dad was getting confused.

As with any transceiver decision, the best transceiver is the one you know how to use WELL. If you're going to pull it out of a cupboard once a year for a ski trip and strap it straight on, get the standard Barryvox. If you're going to take the time to understand the advantages of the S properly, such that there is no chance of confusion in a panic situation, by all means get the S. I need to add another transceiver or two to my fleet and I may well get myself an S, keep the standard ones for clients.
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I was using Pieps DSP Pro before, but on beginning of season, when this thing about DSP series came out, I just wasn't comfortable enough with it to continue using it, so I changed it for Barryvox S (later Pieps changed my DSP Pro for Pro BT, which my wife got instead of her old Ortovox 3+). Luckily I didn't use it for anything but carrying it with me this winter, except for several trainings, so I can't say much more, except that their carrying system is definitely by far better then anything Pieps and/or Ortovox have. Maybe it's just me, but wih BarryvoxS I don't even know I have it on. It fits nicely that I have no issues when skinning, skiing or climbing, and it sits high enough that I have absolutely no issues when putting ABS backpack's hip belt on. So for that, I can't find anything bad. As for longest range goes. I'm not so sure about it. I believe there has been many way more scientific comparisons done, but with simple one that I did, searching with BarryvoxS one Pieps Pro BT and one BarryvoxS, and then searching with Pro BT one ProBT and one BarryvoxS, it didn't really show that much difference between range of BarryvoxS and Pro BT.
Simplicity is for me not really an issue, regardless which transceiver you take. They are all done so that 5 years old kid can use them, but yes it helps if you at least read manual before going out. So more then being slightly more or less simple, it's important to do regular trainings.
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if you need reading glasses the LCD displays can be hard to read as Jon says. the Tracker 3 may not have best range etc but super easy to use with a massive LED.. (i have an older pulse but mainly bought for exam to do multi burials, not sure I would remember how to do multi now without a refresher..)
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