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The Arlberg Snow Report 2021/2022 (Dates TbD)

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@Markymark29, @kitenski, +1. Calm, slow ride resting the legs after the descent from Madloch.
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kitenski wrote:
@Markymark29, agree that was always a lovely peaceful lift, passing over streams in spring!!


…and the Bra Tree! Very Happy
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
I think it is good to realize that instead of a 10-gondola, a 6 or 8-chair would cost at lot more trees....
Apart from that, Zug needs a secure download option, given that both skiroutes to Zug are very much affected by avalanches.
Also with this gondola it might be made possible to walk gently down all the way from Zuger Berg to Lech, even in winter. And the gondola is supposed to run in summer too.
Oh, and appearently you guys have only used the old chair in good weather....whilst the word Zug (=draft) refers to the severe western winds often blowing here.... Toofy Grin
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@Langerzug, have used it in all weathers, would always choose a chair in all weathers vs a gondola.
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@Markymark29, no you don’t. Get real! Very Happy Very Happy you clearly haven’t experienced the ‘Zug’ winds like we did.
(Don’t get me wrong, we love the pretty sunny forest ride too. But a gondola clearly is the best option for Zug now I think)
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@Langerzug,
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no you don’t. Get real!


You have no idea what i've experienced or like/ dislike, i've never met you, so you'd not know my preferences. For what it's worth however, I go skiing to be in the open air and nature not be in a plastic bubble breathing the expired co2 coming out of people like you. If that means I'd have a 3-4 minute queue that for me is preferable to being cooked up with idiots and not being able to see the underwear hanging from the trees as @ulmerhutte, reminded me.
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Markymark29 wrote:
@Langerzug,
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no you don’t. Get real!


You have no idea what i've experienced or like/ dislike, i've never met you, so you'd not know my preferences. For what it's worth however, I go skiing to be in the open air and nature not be in a plastic bubble breathing the expired co2 coming out of people like you. If that means I'd have a 3-4 minute queue that for me is preferable to being cooked up with idiots and not being able to see the underwear hanging from the trees as @ulmerhutte, reminded me.

Whilst we're on being cooked up, I object to people pulling the plastic screen down on chairs even when the weather only threatens. Everybody is kitted up anyway - goggles, helmets. gloves, ski wear, so why pull down the screen? You can't see what the weather is doing as the chair ascends. With the screen up you can assess the conditions.
Start a "BAN CHAIR LIFT SCREENS" campaign before next Winter!
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
And while we're at it, STOP THE BRUTAL GROOMING!

Actually, please don't do that because I don't go off-piste anymore Smile
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@davidthornton, agreed I also dislike chair covers, especially when people pull them down in sub-zero bluebird weather moaning they are cold. Any with no request to the other people, they just yank them down, how rude.
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@davidthornton, @Markymark29, I am afraid I am one of those folk who want to pull the the screens down as soon as it get cold and windy. I do like the fresh air (used to like the old Schindlerbahn, though it was not good in poor weather) but with the getting old thing prefer to not get frozen on a chair lift.... There are lifts that have both chairs and gondolas so folk can have a choice.
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Langerzug wrote:
@Markymark29, no you don’t. Get real! Very Happy Very Happy you clearly haven’t experienced the ‘Zug’ winds like we did.
(Don’t get me wrong, we love the pretty sunny forest ride too. But a gondola clearly is the best option for Zug now I think)


Zugerbegbahn chair lift is protected by trees from the wind most of the ascent.. its very tame almost T Shirt weather compared to

Wind blast Chair Lifts in this order

Valfagehrbahn (old 2 person Chair)
Kapallbahn 1 (old 2 person Chair)
Kapallbahn 2 (old 2 person Chair)
Albona 2 (old 2 man Chair)
The old Valfagehrbahn use to stop regular in the the fierce Wind and you could be hangin up there going nowhere for 15-30 minutes...Not uncommon


Now day's there are no lifts in Arlberg where yo will experience extreme wind & cold because of the Bubbles & safety systems & especially with good ski kit ..
The trajectory's and heights of the Pylons of new lifts are designed specifically to dip or be sheltered from historically well known Meteorological Wind Patterns.
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 And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
10 person Gondolas seem to be the lift of choice these days particularly on busy ski circuits.

I imagine the decision is to do with capacity, cost effectiveness, downloading ability, disability access and future proofing. Gondolas can carry bikes and mixed ability groups all year round. They are also a safer option in windy weather particularly if climate change means more unsettled weather and stronger winds in the alps.

I agree though it’s a shame to lose a favourite chair for the sake of ‘progress’. As an aging telemarker it’s a pain having to take skis off at the bottom of every run.
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 So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So to sum up - in the Arlberg less chairs are swinging but more hotels are.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@Markymark29, there were smilies in my posting. You are taking things too serious here. Get real!
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
I almost agree with @stanton (shock, horror!)… very rarely have I ridden Zugerbergbahn in freezing wind. Yes, it is protected for a good deal of its length, far better than the preceding lift. There has been many a time I have had my butt frozen on the Madlochbahn. There are points on that lift ride that really catch the wind.
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Zugerbergbahn runs from 1500 to 2100m.
Treeline is at 1800
Ca 50% through trees, 50% out in the open
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Plenty of construction work already under way in St Anton, Stadle, Gand ..

Hotel (Takedowns & Rebuilds)
Pensions/Gasthof Rebuilds

Plus more....

Major Excavation works near the Nassereinbahn
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