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Scotland snow reports 2020/21

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bambionskiis wrote:
When is the best month usually to ski in Scotland? If we don’t get to Canada again at Christmas I’m happy to tootle up North. Is it worth the trek?


Not at Xmas, that's for sure. Often the season is just about starting now. March / April often the best.
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Great thanks for that kitenski
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@bambionskiis, although this season, snow cover is currently deteriorating (having been excellent for most of the season so far), and the medium term outlook is poor for snowfall prospects.
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Ah right that’s a shame then. Just your luck year-on-year I guess. With the resorts being shut I’ve not been able to keep up with snow depths etc so I wasn’t sure
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@bambionskiis, your also best deciding the night before based how much wind/rain/snow is forecast even if there is enough snow on the ground
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@bambionskiis, your also best deciding the night before based how much wind/rain/snow is forecast even if there is enough snow on the ground


Righty ho. I’m the sort of person who is quite happy pootling about so would find other stuff to do if the conditions weren’t great so this doesn’t bother me. It looks such a beautiful part of the world I’d just be happy with the scenery. Thank you Smile
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Not been for a lot of years, but used to book a week off feb/mar and go up to Aviemore. Get there before 5pm, and find a b&b via local tourist office.

Took ski gear, but hired skis. But just in case no snow, took hiking gear as well. Usually got lucky and got 4/5 days.

Conditions always best described as "variable" Very Happy Very Happy

The only thing you could guarantee were wind and cold.
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Sounds good to me brian.

Variable sounds like you’re being generous Very Happy

And don’t us skiers laugh in the face of wind and cold?!! We’ve done a few trips to Norway and Finland (-21 yoiks) and yes it’s not ideal but hey, it is what it is.

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bambionskiis wrote:


And don’t us skiers laugh in the face of wind and cold?!! We’ve done a few trips to Norway and Finland (-21 yoiks) and yes it’s not ideal but hey, it is what it is.

Cheers


Yes, but minus 3 on a Scottish Hill in horizontal gale blown sleet kicks the back bottom of -20 in the alps or elsewhere. Shocked
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Not at Xmas, that's for sure.
Not sure at all. Historically, Cairngorm has often had skiing in December - with skiing fron November not uncommon.

Can't remember if the lifts were open (seems like a past life now... Confused) but there was enough snow for us to ski tour there between Christmas and New Year in the last two Decembers before lockdown.
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Nicola Sturgeon's just been on: Strict restrictions to remain in place in Scotland until at least the end of April - ie no possibility of getting up to the Highlands until some time after then Crying or Very sad

May is therefore looking unlikely - the last snows of June now looking like our last hope for ski touring?? ... Confused
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Once went on a weekend coach trip to Aviemore. Set off Friday night. Arrived in time for slopes opening. Day skiing. Evening meal, B&B. Day skiing. Return when lifts closed. Home about midnight.

Snow was great. No 2 runs the same conditions (always the case in Scotland). 2nd day, wind got up. Was chucking lumps of ice the size of golf balls at us. Not pleasant on a T bar into the wind. Called it a day about 2.30. Mountain closed at 3 due to winds.

Long weekend, lots of traveling, but well worth the trip. Very Happy Very Happy

Just remember to take plenty of thermals. Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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Snow on CG is almost gone.

Few more pics of Ben wyvis.










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@Ram80 said
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Snow on CG is almost gone.

Skiing in Glenshee still looks
remarkably good - if you can get there Confused
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Any aspect facing West. North West above 700 meters has lots of snow left

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Ram80 wrote:
Snow on CG is almost gone.


Think your definition of almost gone is very different to mine!! Loads of depth and width on the White Lady



This was the white lady in May 1994, lots of depth in the gullies to hold snow.

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kitenski wrote:
Ram80 wrote:
Snow on CG is almost gone.


Think your definition of almost gone is very different to mine!! Loads of depth and width on the White Lady



This was the white lady in May 1994, lots of depth in the gullies to hold snow.



You would come all the way up from Leeds for that amount of snow in 1994 pic?

I'll need a lot more snow just for the whole experience.
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You would come all the way up from Leeds for that amount of snow in 1994 pic?
I'll need a lot more snow just for the whole experience
That's the thing about Scotland. Snow cover is just not like The Alps. It's the gullies that hold the snow - the whole mountain does not need to be all white for runs to be complete and skiable. Kitenski's pic actually shows the iconic White Lady run with virtually full snow cover.

Based on that photo, other gullies on the mountain - such as Coire Cas and Coire Na Ciste would have had full cover and the Ptarmigan area at the top of the mountain would also be complete. So very decent cover (and skiing) overall. All resulting in at least 400m of vertical from the top to mid-mountain area.

Mrs MA and I have regularly made the 600 mile round trip to ski similar - or less - cover at Cairngorm. We once drove up in August to ski a great 200m snow patch that we'd seen photos of online - it took about 90 mins to hike up to it but we had a great time summer skiing wink
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You would come all the way up from Leeds for that amount of snow in 1994 pic?

Imagine having to drive 200 miles in the other direction for no snow at all Shocked
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Blimey that was in May?!! Probably not possible these days because of global warming. Great pics.
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Sounds as though the 5th April might be the earliest the centres could re open?
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Ram80 wrote:

You would come all the way up from Leeds for that amount of snow in 1994 pic?

I'll need a lot more snow just for the whole experience.


yup was a great weekend, lower slopes I'd not really ski even if open. Also had a day at Nevis.

I think you are missing how Scottish skiing works, big deep gullies and fences hold snow, so anything cosmetic often disappears.

A lot more snow and Scotland don't often come together, some of my best days have been on the upper mountain at Glencoe with no snow at all until you get to the plateau.
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Nevis range pic from 14th May 1994, the goose was running and loading at first pylon from memory as well as top tow!



and another from Cairngorm on 13th May! I live in hope for a repeat!

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19th May 2013, climbing back to the lifts from skiing off-piste down to Loch A'an behind Cairngorm (White Lady still complete and full width for the majority of it).
That was the last day the ski lifts ran, that season. Forgot to pack the suncream with obvious results. Since gone over to pin bindings.


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Great cover at Glencoe.
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Does today's news mean late-season skiing might be possible, after all, at least for locals?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56337475
Outdoor sports permitted (with conditions) from 12th March.
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More snow at the Coe snowHead
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As I understand it, an announcement about re-opening (or not re-opening) is going to be made by Nicola Sturgeon on Tuesday.
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@JohnHSmith, or at least an indicative date. Might be tied to the level system again? We are starting to run out of season for at least some of the ski areas though...
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This is the official announcement. We shall have to wait and see IF anything is permitted and if so, what.

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denfinella wrote:
@JohnHSmith, or at least an indicative date. Might be tied to the level system again? We are starting to run out of season for at least some of the ski areas though...


This is where the regulations have become a bit of a muddle - because legally we still are in the levels system, it's just level 4 has become 'enhanced' level 4 through various statutory instruments. It would actually have been better I think if we'd gone to a new 4+ or 5, so had Level 4 - Lockdown, and Level 5 - Stay at Home. That way individual local authorities could return to level 4 as it was pre 8th January, but currently because of the enhanced level 4, the gap to level 3 is quite a bit bigger than it was so the threshold for getting out of the current enhanced level 4 is tighter.

At the start of the season (and the season did start even if that seems a long time ago) uplift was permitted upto and INCLUDING Level 4 - so for local(ish) skiers getting rid of the explicit shutdown of snowsports centres added to level 4 in early January would be a start. The way this unfolded is rather galling not just because of the good snow and weather lost to lift served snowsports, but because 3 of the areas put in very substantial time and money preparing for the scenario of operating under Level 3 and Level 4 restrictions. Certainly it was working well in a controlled and safe manor at Glenshee and Glencoe and there are numerous comments around from people who were impressed with how access was being managed.

From what is being said on the grapevine and the state of the current snow cover, taking into account the continuing omnishambles that is Cairngorm and the fact we are moving on in meteorological spring, it looks likely that if we are going to see lift served riding to any significant extent again this season then it will be Glencoe and the Lecht likely to lead the charge. It is worth pointing out that while the Lecht maybe the smallest and lowest area, it is most likely to gain significant snowfalls on Northerlies as we go deeper into spring and has in the past come back from nothing to open even in early May!

If we do get the greenlight soon, then even if restricted to Highland, along with Argyll & Bute residents as before then Glencoe tickets are likely to be like gold dust given the pent up demand and aside from walks, golf and tennis there not being much else to do!
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bambionskiis wrote:
Blimey that was in May?!! Probably not possible these days because of global warming. Great pics.


It's very possible. Most years in Glencoe there is enough snow to run the lifts in April and occasionally until early May. They still have a mid summer ski there each year, on 20th June. Though it's necessary to hike up, there still usually looks like enough snow for a decent ski. Very Happy

I must try it one of these days. wink
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Glencoe at 8.30 this morning.

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Cooling down again end of next week which would be helpful.
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The sheer frustration continues....

AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!

I'm beginning to give up hope... Sad
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@brianatab,
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Once went on a weekend coach trip to Aviemore. Set off Friday night. Arrived in time for slopes opening. Day skiing. Evening meal, B&B. Day skiing. Return when lifts closed. Home about midnight.


I did the same a couple of times in the mid 1970’s with a company called The Weekend Ski Club. The coach left Hendon (London) at about 6pm on Friday evening. Arrived in Newtonmore at about 6am. Kit put in hotel room, get skis (hotel supplied them). A quick breakfast and then coach to the mountain for the day. One night in hotel. Ski the next day. Depart hotel at 6pm. Arrive back in London at 6am Monday morning.
It was my first time skiing on snow. I was freezing cold all weekend. I just had normal winter clothing on. But I loved it.
I was about 15 at the time. I don’t think I could survive that now.
Oh the joy of being young !!! Eh oh! Eh oh!
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Eggfried100,

Some weekend that! Very Happy Very Happy
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I have left the Glencoe slopes at 4.30 and driven straight to London. Also a bit more recently (2013, shortly after photo up the page) left the CairnGorm slopes at 4.30 and just caught my flight back to London (changing in the loo at the airport). You don't have to be young, I am nearly 73. Driving is different, I'd risk falling asleep at the wheel now.
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Some weekend that!

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he was regarded as the driving force behind a group of London climbers who would regularly drive to the north of Scotland, a round trip of 1,300 miles, for winter weekends. His record was 11 consecutive weekends.

... he often beat the local climbers to make the first winter ascent of some routes after an overnight drive!! Toofy Grin
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