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The Arlberg Snow Report 2020/2021 (Dec 4 to April 25)

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@clarky999,
Maybe you are forgetting about Vorarlberg? The Rhinevalley cities (Bregenz+Feldkirch+Dornbirn) are approx. equal in size to Innsbruck
And few Vorarlberger head to CH obviously.

Last year Lech-Zürs reached their ‘skipasslimitierung’ on several days between christmas and newyear.
That makes
14.000-/-10.000 beds=4.000 daytrippers for Arlberg-West, excl. Warth!

Both Arlberg-West and East will have few lifts open. Ischgl stays closed....
Might get interesting?
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@Langerzug, good point, though I’d have thought most in Vorarlberg would get the Ländle Card, which I think also doesn’t include the Arlberg? When I lived there I only had the Montafon pass, but that was before the Ländle Card was introduced.
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DB wrote:
Toadman wrote:
Is an FFP2 the same as an N95 mask here in the USA? How's a lift operator supposed to know if someone is wearing an FFP2 mask? Other than the obvious block who is just pulled up their balaclava or neck gaiter?


Maybe this helps ...
https://www.hivepharmacy.com/post/n95-vs-kn95-vs-ffp2-vs-ffp3


Thanks for that link.
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Markymark29 wrote:
Seems a strange move to open lifts in the middle of a global pandemic, whether they are classed as public transport and therefore allowed is immaterial imv it is hardly essential travel. Pretty disappointed in this decision, not on a personal basis, I think it’s increasingly apparent there’s little chance of skiing this season for U.K. visitors, but more on the grounds that they are putting their own people at risk. Any risk for a leisure activity seems one too far imv.


If you lived close to a ski resort in Austria would you have the same opinion, would you stay at home and not go skiing?



I can answer that question, and it's a yes for me. And I do wear a 3 layer mask that has a microfilter that states it filters out 95% of micro particles. The problem that I have seen skiing, is that a lot of people, as in the majority of people are skiing with just a face covering that is at best a 2 layer material. It might provide some measure of limited efficacy, but I am not an expert on that.

The social distancing thing in the lift lines is not quite dialed in at my local hill, but they do a very good job or reminding people to have their masks covering both mouth and nose. Lots of people just cover the mouth. Loading up is pretty straight forward with two singles on either side of a quad chair. I also have loaded single on an 8 person gondola. If you are not comfortable loading with anyone else as a single, all you have to do is say so to the liftie and the will give you your own chair. Although, I have not seen any skiers ask to load single on the chair lifts.

The one area that the ski resorts could do a better job of, is in setting up the lift lines with more distance laterally. They are only spaced about 1 meter wide. Though here in the States the lifties are generally pretty good about moving the lines in an orderly fashion, and they seem even more adept at it now. And routinely remind people to not crowd the turn styles before loading the chairs. They are going at a cadence that creates that 2 meter or more of spacing for the skiers.

I think that might be interesting to see how the Euro ski resort employees handle the lift lines, as that is not something that I have experienced in Europe with the orderly loading up of the skiers. People crowding and standing on your skis is the norm. So, they will need to work on that scenario.

I feel for the folks that don't live near a ski area and can not ski, and look forward to their annual ski trips. That is the major bummer and has to be very depressing. I just hope that next year things return to some normalcy.
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It seems that: the Arlberg will go into a “hard lockdown” on 26 Dec, but the lifts will start turning on 26 Dec! Our friends are struggling to keep with the changes, flip-flops, and dubious logic. It seems that the rules are being made up on the fly.

Oh, East & West Arlberg are now split, as far as the lift tickets go. Must be different strains of corona!
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It seems that: the Arlberg will go into a “hard lockdown” on 26 Dec, but the lifts will start turning on 26 Dec! Our friends are struggling to keep with the changes, flip-flops, and dubious logic. It seems that the rules are being made up on the fly.


Tbf that part is old news. However even under what they call hard lockdown (also the last one) people are allowed out to do individual sport in the open air for physical and mental health (ie skiing). While I’m obviously glad that’s the case, it’s not really what ‘lockdown’ implies.
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Historical Snowfall in Lech am Arlberg


http://youtube.com/v/xyWUhK1wuWU


An old documentary.

Arlberg - Der Weiße Rausch (2010)


http://youtube.com/v/tDnXGSvgrbk


Liftriders will be happy tomorrow ....

St. Anton / St. Christoph / Stuben:
Nassereinbahn, Gampenbahn, Kapallbahn, Mattunbahn, Zammermoosbahn, Osthangbahn, Tanzbödenbahn, Schindlergratbahn, Galzigbahn, Nassereinlift, Gampen I and II practice lifts, St. Christophbahn. Valfagehrbahn and Albonabahn I.

Lech/Oberlech:
Schlegelkopfbahn, Petersbodenbahn, Hasensprungbahn, Rotschrofenbahn;
Bergbahn Oberlech für Fußgänger bereits am 25.12.2020 von 8:30 h–12:00 und 13:00–18:00 h
(ab 26.12.2020 normale Betriebszeiten);

Zürs:
Hexenbodenbahn, Übungshangbahn, Trittkopfbahnen I und II, Seekopfbahn, Zürserseebahn;

No Rendl
No Sonnenkopf
No Flexenbahn (connection to Zürs)
No Connection toWärth or Schröcken

AFAIK Lifts will ONLY be in Operation 26 Dec until Jan 1st. (7 days) for Locals ONLY (people currently in Austria)

FFP2 Masks required...


IMO The opening of Ski Areas to Tourists on Jan 18th remains in doubt and is highly unlikely ..


Stop the Brutal Grooming.

Earn Your Turns ....Skin up !
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Folks

Hill is in fine shape....

Karl-Schranz Race Course is almost prepared


AUDI FIS WOMEN’S SKI WORLD CUP
ARLBERG KANDAHAR RACE

Jan 09 & 10, 2021

https://www.worldcup-stanton.com/

https://www.facebook.com/akr.stanton


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Still unclear weather Lifts will operate (or greatly reduced service) for Locals after January 1st as the Holidays will be over.

Hotels , Restaurants etc are due to open January 18th but at the moment this is very Unlikely IMO as there will be NO Tourists.

German tourists cannot travel
Dutch Tourists cannot officially travel until Mid March
Scandinavia Country's there are all kind of travel restrictions.
Brits are not permitted to enter the EU from January 1st.

I think you can see where I am going with this .......there comes a time when reality hits home ...

and it is to bad because it is perfect Winter Conditions (Cold & Snow in Forecast)

Lets see what happens at the next Vienna Press Conference from Chancellor Sebastian Kurz

FYI .

https://corona-ampel.gv.at/

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/d225672c788d4847b231f1283d63aead/page/page_2/
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stanton wrote:
Historical Snowfall in Lech am Arlberg


http://youtube.com/v/xyWUhK1wuWU



Good spot.
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Hey Folks....

Latest thoughts for the coming period from Austrian Health Minister...

https://www.news.at/a/coronavirus-oesterreich-11360814

Dont expect Foreign Tourism to be starting anytime soon.

He mentions here that he does not want to put a prognosis on Xmas 2021 Shocked

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I have heard separately that discussions about Apres Ski for 2021/22 have already been discussed by the Government and folks should prepare for next season minus Apres Ski... Shocked Shocked


fröhe neues jahr
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Race Weekend coming up !



Die Rennen werden aber Live auf ORF 1

Races live on ORF 1

https://tvheute.at/orf1-programm/sendung/fis-ski-weltcup-abfahrt-der-damen-stanton-sport_-1746754674
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Rumour circulating the Valley...

Lifts maybe closing down after this weekend races .....

Austrian National Lockdown (Hotels, Restaurants , Bars ) extended until at least January 24th

Germans, Dutch , Scandinavians & now confirmed Brits Tourists not permitted to travel until at least mid March ...



Adios Season 2020/2021
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Here is a nice Documentary from German BR (Bavaria) TV......filmed a couple of seasons ago .

Damals am Arlberg

https://www.br.de/br-fernsehen/programmkalender/ausstrahlung-2353014.html
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St Anton snow on the horizon (subject to confirmation from daisy the cow)
https://www.bergfex.at/stanton-stchristoph/wetter/berg/
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Winter Season still Miles away from Opening

WK-President: Winter season "unrealistic" this year

This season looks bleak for winter tourism, says Tyrol's WK President Christoph Walser (ÖVP). One is "still miles away" from an opening. In addition, the expected end of the lockdown is "constantly shifting backwards".
In the worst case, an opening is not expected until Easter.
This would represent a 90 percent drop in overnight stays and a loss of value added of 5.2 billion euros, as well as the loss of 48,000 jobs.

"We still have February and March to save the winter season," Walser warned. Given the current situation, it is "unrealistic that we will even bring a winter season this year".

https://www.meinbezirk.at/c-politik/wintersaison-von-oeffnung-noch-meilenweit-entfernt_a4424565

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Some fotos over here courtesy of the German forum

https://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=144&t=64574#p5304084


Over the border our nearest Northern resort neighbours (Germany) the latest opening has been set back to February 10th so if they do not open then it will be History..

https://www.ok-bergbahnen.com/oeffnungszeiten/

To the West in Switzerland ...Ski Areas in Zürich Canton can plan to open on February 9th ..

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Ski WeltCup Slalom (Zagreb) Local interest .... Michael Matt ( KK's Mario Matt brother) was on the Podium.


http://youtube.com/v/JMJX5AJTh2Y


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Finally .. Weather... as mentioned above ...... Snow is on the way ... Very Happy Very Happy

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@stanton, thanks. Also on ZDF I see.
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The course looks superb. Hopefully the coming snow will not unduly disrupt the race, as it did in 2019. The town, and the people who rely on snowsports, need any wins they can get.

I should be airborne now, about 6 hours from Zürich, but alas our government had confiscated our passports. Sigh! Sad
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ulmerhutte wrote:

I should be airborne now, about 6 hours from Zürich, but alas our government had confiscated our passports. Sigh! Sad

Well you've always got Perisher/Thredbo to look forward in August! Very Happy
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@ulmerhutte, sad isn't it, i'd be packing our bags this weekend and leaving next Friday for a double-header in Lech and Anton.

There must come a point when they will stop the pistes prep and snow-cannoning, whatever they do now will retain it beyond Easter but at what point do they throw in the towel and accept it's not going to happen, perhaps not yet but it must be on the agenda.
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@Markymark29, I think everyone's waiting to see what the plan is on the 24th, as the previous plan included opening hospitality on the 17th, but obviously that got bumped a week Confused The testing plan went in the bin, but there's been no more info as yet about what will open, when or how. I'm guessing there will have to be an announcement next week (though I thought hotels and restaurants were supposed to be given 3 weeks prep time to open, but maybe it's not that long).
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@Markymark29, yes there must be a tipping point I guess where they decide enough is enough but it’s a while off yet I think
If they can get some decent custom in March and April it’s still better than nothing?
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Hey Folks.

In case you missed it earlier today..

Was live earlier on Eurosport/ZDF/ORF1 etc also online ..

Fantastic Weather !!

Results of Downhill here

http://live.fis-ski.com/lv-al5008.htm#/short


Tomorrow go again with GS

https://www.stantonamarlberg.com/de/events/audi-fis-ski-world-cup-women-arlberg-kandahar-rennen
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@Markymark29, yes there must be a tipping point I guess where they decide enough is enough but it’s a while off yet I think
If they can get some decent custom in March and April it’s still better than nothing?


Easter is early this year (4th April) so suspect if many resorts aren‘t open for the feb hols then they won‘t bother with March.
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Fabulous racing today WM WC DH. Icefalle and Fang speed amazing - kudos to them.
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@stanton, Super G tomorrow (Sunday). Spectacular Adelboden course coverage by a drone following Berthold's pre-race run today. I hope they use the drone again, especially at Kitzbuhel.
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I think the snow (decent accumulations) will come towards the end of next week (Friday) not how it is predicted here



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For Tourists it does not really matter...

From tomorrow many resorts in the Tirol will close lifts or drastically reduce service.. maybe just opening at the weekends..

and again on top of the chaotic scenes at Lift Stations yesterday the Austrian Health Minister has threatened to Close down Ski Areas
if there is any repeat today (Sunday)...

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Quarantine after travel remains
Registration is likely to come
Easing unlikely


https://orf.at//stories/3196617/
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POWDER DAY

0.5 Metre new on the Hill

Another 0.5+ Metre dump through until Friday.

Only a few lifts open today but that is normal anyway after/during a storm.
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Remains to be seen how long the season will last ....

Germans & Dutch are locking down and Travel Advice is Strongly Negative until the End of March.

St Anton Tourism Chief is hoping but is not optimistic reading this ...

Start of Winter season in February unrealistic

Maybe a late start but I doubt it very much,

https://tirol.orf.at/stories/3084135/?


STAY AT HOME

Season 2021/2022 will feel much better.
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2021 is suppose to be La Niña ........ its looking good so far Very Happy Very Happy


Lawine/Avalanche Warning 4

Huge Dump overnight ... and still in progress ..... thru till Tomorrow .....expect at least another 0.5 Metre Very Happy Very Happy




Avalanche in Klösterle (Wilden-Tobel) Sad

https://www.vol.at/wilden-tobel-lawine-erfasst-haus-in-kloesterle/6864550

Arlberg Paß/FlexnPaß Closed ..

https://www.asfinag.at/traffic/traffic-infos/

Lifts were Closed

Except a couple of Kinder Lifts in Town.

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This is NOT in Arlberg but over on the nursery slopes in the Eastern Tirol (Kitzbühel) & Western Salzburg.

New Corona Variant Outbreak/Ski Instructor Academy

An interesting Story breaking here about the credentials of an organisation for Foreign Ski Instructors promoting "legendary candidate program".

Sounds Incredible that such Activities (Ski Training/Instructions ) are even permitted or how the travel by Dutch/Danish/English was even allowed. I know in Holland this would not be considered Essential .

Just two days ago the term used by the Dutch PM was "Anti Social " for anyone travelling.

https://www.tt.com/artikel/17735254/corona-causa-jochberg-nur-skikurs-aber-keine-ausbildung-der-briten
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Dear citizens,
Due to the current snow conditions, the following closures will occur:

From now on:

Toboggan path, Schöngraben from the toboggan stable
Verwalltal from the Mooserkreuz barrier
Stanzertal trail, Verwall trail
Vadiesen hiking trail

From 1 p.m .:

L68 Stanzertalstraße between the slip road S16 and Vadiesen.
Access to the S16 is still possible.

From 3 p.m .:

Arlbergpassstraße B197 between St. Anton Mooserkreuz and St. Christoph am Arlberg

Bus operation:

Line 2 St. Jakob runs along the federal road B197 - no service through St. Jakob
Line 4 Nasserein, line 92 St. Christoph, line 7 Pettneu closed


From a St Anton Locals FB post.

The photos look awesome. The town is buried in a heap of snow. They are just rubbing it in that we are stuck in Australia. Sad
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An interesting Story breaking here about the credentials of an organisation for Foreign Ski Instructors promoting "legendary candidate program".

Sounds Incredible that such Activities (Ski Training/Instructions ) are even permitted or how the travel by Dutch/Danish/English was even allowed. I know in Holland this would not be considered Essential .

Just two days ago the term used by the Dutch PM was "Anti Social " for anyone travelling.

https://www.tt.com/artikel/17735254/corona-causa-jochberg-nur-skikurs-aber-keine-ausbildung-der-briten


Don't forget the Irish and Icelandic's who are the course there, though I supposed they are allowed....
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Shredding Serious POW under Nass....

https://www.facebook.com/patrick.batz.58/videos/10159157215604962

2 metres of snow up on Galzig/Osthang Very Happy Very Happy and its only January 15th !!!


Its clearing up now ...Blue Skies before the Sun Goes down...
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From a FB post: it looks like the lockdown has been extended to 8 Feb, but tourism & hospitality will possibly stay closed until March. Decision later in Feb.

There was no link to an official source, so class this news as unverified.
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@ulmerhutte, hotels and restaurants definitely staying closed until March.
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Shredding Serious POW under Nass....

https://www.facebook.com/patrick.batz.58/videos/10159157215604962

2 metres of snow up on Galzig/Osthang Very Happy Very Happy and its only January 15th !!!


Its clearing up now ...Blue Skies before the Sun Goes down...


Looks awesome for the lucky few able to be domiciled in that region. Once in a lifetime opportunity for those folks. Hope you are enjoying all that snow stanton.
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As has been said above and other Topics on this Forum

Yesterday Bundeskanzler Sebastian Kurz confirmed what all thought ...

Tourism is Closed until March 1st (earliest) .. That means all Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes, Bars ...

They want to try to reopen areas of society (schools ) and there will be another update..during February..this will include a decison about Tourism from March 1st.

Ski Lifts will be allowed to remain open .... therefore locals , day trippers from other regions of Austria.

However, IMO now the February Holidays are now cancelled for Tourists I expect the Ski Lift to drastically reduce service .....

Locals do not go out skiing 7 days a week maybe 1 or 2 at the most....

There is already noise that it will not be possible for seasonal Apres Ski Bars to open at all this season..it has now become uneconomic.

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SnowMageddon

Amazing conditions .... inbounds POW everyday ...

Another MAJOR Front is coming in from Friday onwards ...0.5- 1 Metre !!

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The Clean up...


http://youtube.com/v/FP3GnFCHM9A


http://youtube.com/v/nspspWTImRU


Highways & Railroad Tree "Downwash"


http://youtube.com/v/Sk9x184fLc0

Private Hill Very Happy Very Happy


http://youtube.com/v/Up9ROGKa6Mk

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The StA Bürgermeister. issued this statement (translated by somebody on FB):

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Dear citizens,

there are increasing reports that foreign people are in town who are looking for work, pursue leisure activities, meet in groups, establish their place of residence and stay here. In addition, various information is circulating on the Internet about how foreign citizens can enter the country and how the ban on accommodation can be circumvented within the framework of the COVID-19 emergency measures regulations.

The Landeck district administration has been informed of this and has instructed the police to check this immediately (personal and accommodation checks). We cannot tolerate such communications, let alone facts and figures, and must be stopped immediately if they conflict with existing COVID-19 regulations and laws. The danger of a blanket denigration of the place, the landlord would be fatal. In this regard, you can cause great damage to the individual landlords, yes to the whole place.

We can only do it with a joint effort and everyone now has to pull together. Strict action must be taken against such interference and possible bypasses!

Sincerely, Mayor Helmut Mall.
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Do you happen to have the original german version?
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