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Charliegolf wrote:
Ryunis wrote:


I'm sorry but this 'girl' is not representative of her generation so to use her as a benchmark is not fair and if you think this is an expectation other people her age can replicate, then you are completely out of touch with reality.


Missing something here... Is this 'girl' booking a ski trip?

Not as far as I know
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At least there shouldn’t be much commercial traffic on New Year’s Day @ecureuil,
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@Charliegolf, Aussois about 20min drive from Val Cennis
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robs1 wrote:
Charliegolf wrote:
Ryunis wrote:


I'm sorry but this 'girl' is not representative of her generation so to use her as a benchmark is not fair and if you think this is an expectation other people her age can replicate, then you are completely out of touch with reality.


Missing something here... Is this 'girl' booking a ski trip?

Not as far as I know


You cant ski if you're saving 5k a year on a shelf stacker's wage! Laughing
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thunderer wrote:
@Charliegolf, Aussois about 20min drive from Val Cennis


Cheers Thunderer. I've been searching for the season pass that does all the resorts: can you post a linky please? Ta.
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thunderer wrote:
@Charliegolf, Aussois about 20min drive from Val Cennis


Lovely little resort we had a day there a couple of years ago
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@Charliegolf, https://www.aussois.ski/Intern
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@thunderer, Brill ta.
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"Some people use the term to mean somewhere close by that you can reach within a day's driving, which in the US can mean quite a distance away."

Surely a day's driving in any country can mean quite a distance away? Puzzled
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thunderer wrote:
At least there shouldn’t be much commercial traffic on New Year’s Day

There might not be any trains either .... Lack-of-agreement-on-Channel-Tunnel-safety-rules-could-halt-UK-France-trains

... although I would think this is fairly high on the priority list of things to be resolved
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ecureuil wrote:
thunderer wrote:
At least there shouldn’t be much commercial traffic on New Year’s Day

There might not be any trains either .... Lack-of-agreement-on-Channel-Tunnel-safety-rules-could-halt-UK-France-trains

... although I would think this is fairly high on the priority list of things to be resolved


Yes dec 31 safety rules that both countries agree on and implemented by euro tunnel are ok.
Jan 1st those same rules applied by the same company suddenly arent ok .
Glad to see the lunatics are out in force, how the people who create this poo-poo do so with a straight face is beyond me
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Calling the pandemic situation for Jan/Feb now is very difficult. Going purely by pattern of previous pandemics (and even usual flu years) it doesn't seem normal for cases to rise and stay at a steady high level throughout winter in northern climates but rather come and go over ~3 month bursts. So I'm expecting this wave to be well onto downslope by late Nov/early Dec but potentially returning again in 3rd wave in new year. The question being how traumatised society is and what the general government narrative around that is at that time as well as whether another uptick has already started . Think they'll be *very* cautious on Feb half term ski trips given the (rather mistaken to my mind) blame they received this year for igniting spread in Europe. If trips are perceived to be at all threatening our "success in bringing cases down" then the gov will fear the blowback and be extremely reserved in what they allow. Conversely, the French seem to keep playing with the idea of taking a more liberal approach, the Swiss have quite explicitly aligned more on a Swedish model, and the economic drivers in Austria are of course very strong to get something going. Really hope so, less for my own trip which I'm ready to write off, but for family and friends I know whose livelihoods depend on it.
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sheffskibod wrote:
We have bit the bullet and booked a week in Selva at Xmas (19-26th) with Crystal...the amazing Hotel Tyrol.

They offered 2 for 1 on lift passes which saved us about £ 550 and we had a voucher to use from a cancelled Crystal holiday in April this year (which got refunded in full eventually).

Have only paid £ 400 deposit and balance due end September by which time it may be clearer if we are in a full on 2nd wave or not...

If it gets kaiboshed - I have security that Crystal will refund in full..

And if we go and skiing is limited - the Tyrol is a nice place to relax anyway.

And if we go and its all open , I predict it will be a quiet week as the hordes will arrive as we leave !


Still undecided whether to proceed with this or not. Crystal is offering free amendments up to 28 days before departure and the family is leaning towards bumping this to Xmas 2021.
So we have until next week-end to make a decision. After that , if Crystal cancels - we will get a refund , but if they say holiday is on and we do not want to go - we will lose out.

Even if everything manages to re-open in time for our departure and the various curves have peaked and dropped - it may well be a bit weird (and inappropriate?) to go while Italy (and us) will still be presumably be reporting hundreds of deaths per day.
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@sheffskibod,
Bump the trip to next year and book last minute for this year if skiing becomes viable. Keeps your options open.
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Bump the trip to next year and book last minute for this year if skiing becomes viable.

2021 is next year
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@johnE, I think it was obvious what he meant. Seems like good advice.
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sheffskibod wrote:

Still undecided whether to proceed with this or not. Crystal is offering free amendments up to 28 days before departure and the family is leaning towards bumping this to Xmas 2021.
So we have until next week-end to make a decision. After that , if Crystal cancels - we will get a refund , but if they say holiday is on and we do not want to go - we will lose out.

Even if everything manages to re-open in time for our departure and the various curves have peaked and dropped - it may well be a bit weird (and inappropriate?) to go while Italy (and us) will still be presumably be reporting hundreds of deaths per day.


This is starting to feel eerily like March 2020... At that time, a evidenced by various threads on here, the focus shifted from "I really hope skiing remains open in Italy/Switzerland/France etc." to "Why won't the FCO issue advice against travel, so that I can claim on insurance/don't have to go". The whole atmosphere changed from "how to I go skiing" to "how do I not go skiing without losing all the sunk cost".

In your position I'd be bumping the pre-arranged trip and planning for a family Xmas at home. Usually by this point in the year I've got at least £5k invested in flights, car rental and season ski passes. This year the number is... zero.
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I have nothing booked (usually 2 x solo/friends weeks and 2 x family weeks booked or planned by now). If the stars align and I don't have to quarantine more than a week on the way home, I'll jump last minute. Otherwise, I think that Easter is looking like to only family trip with potential and I will try for a couple of weeks somewhere high in France.

Xmas and half-term are notoriously busy, even if the areas are open. Any restrictions will make school holiday trips painful (lunch on the mountain?!) and they are expensive enough in a good year.

I completely agree with the moral question about going skiing whilst there is a pandemic going on. Sure, businesses in ski areas have to earn a living but travelling to another country for a bit of a jolly is definitely 'unnecessary travel'....... I really want to go though and have everything crossed that I can get on the snow this season.
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I’ve optimistically booked Eurotunnel for Easter
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yip, mystic meg told me that easter will be fine so we booked VT for family Easter trip, staying in Orelle. Booked trough the tourist office with good cancellation terms. Driving from Ireland, usually go feb half term but changed to later. French school hols not until 10 april so hopefully wont be too rammed. All quarantine will be lifted by then anyway she said!
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Boris wrote:
I’ve optimistically booked Eurotunnel for Easter

Ditto and our usual campsite in Venosc for Les Deux Alpes. We did pay a little more for COVID cancellation but not much. And Eurotunnel were amazing. My booking from Easter this year, which they had rolled over as far as it could go, was replaced in total with a voucher for the whole amount. Excellent customer service. Just keeping my fingers x now.
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@Michelle63, is that the Champ du Moulin by any chance? We have had a few summers and one winter trip there in our MH. Great spot and lovely friendly owners.
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@Klamm Franzer,
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Xmas and half-term are notoriously busy, even if the areas are open

Christmas week is never especially busy (maybe 60%), and of course this year it starts on 19th December. Given the circumstances, I doubt whether the half term period (which of course is different weeks for each country) will be anything like as busy as usual.
Having said that I know an accommodation provider of our mutual acquaintance, who has eight weeks booked, including the whole of February - all British guests. Clearly there are some optimists out there!
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@Michelle63, is that the Champ du Moulin by any chance? We have had a few summers and one winter trip there in our MH. Great spot and lovely friendly owners.

Yep, should be our 5th time there. I work in a school so fly in Feb half term but drive at Easter. It’s a fab campsite, I like a little bit of comfort. The restaurant, sauna and boot room mean less damp stuff in the van and the chance for a nice meal.
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I have sent request for my deposit to be returned for the accommodation over Christmas in Austria. When we booked and I brought it up we were told we could get refund upto 14days before travel. With the Austria lockdown not scheduled to be lifted until inside that 14days, the U.K. FCDO advice won’t be changing until after that, so can’t now risk it. Sad

I still have flights booked for Easter.

Wonder if EasyJet will be cancelling those flights or if I will need to reschedule for some other time ahead of rescheduling again for 2021/22 season.
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We still have our Snowbombing trip booked which was carried over from last year. Surprisingly they are still selling tickets but have promised a refund or another transfer to 2022.

To be honest I'd be happy to go without the festival part.

I'm going to leave booking the flights until the last minute as Lufthansa were a total nightmare when it came to getting a refund.
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Part of my reason for booking Easter is that, while it is traditionally off-season for skiing, given likely compressed nature of season it may get very busy!!!
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Boris wrote:
Part of my reason for booking Easter is that, while it is traditionally off-season for skiing, given likely compressed nature of season it may get very busy!!!

That was my thinking too.
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Mr.Egg wrote:
@sheffskibod,
Bump the trip to next year and book last minute for this year if skiing becomes viable. Keeps your options open.


This is what we finally decided to do.

Bumped same exact hol to Dec 20th 2021

Wasn’t desperate for the money back and we would have probably booked this week away regardless.

So not worth playing poker with Crystal to wait for them to cancel (and thus refund)

We decided as a family it is too risky to travel this year (not afraid of COVID per se but one or more of us catching it abroad and being unable to travel home is the main worry)

Plus the Italians are having as bad a time as us (or worse ) so felt would be rather selfish to go even if things opened up...

If situation improves later this season we may still try and fit a week in but case numbers would have to be way down.
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@sheffskibod, +1.
Safe and smart. It's a world in pandemic. That shall pass, but for the meantime I find myself totally off the mountains.
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I went ahead and booked Zell Am See for Mid March. Cheap flights with amendments if required. Free cancelation on hotel. Ski passes will
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Anybody booking Austria for next year?
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Still sticking with the plan. I much prefer January skiing and its pretty clear that even if its possible its going to be a stress-fest and not a holiday. If the weather holds cold into spring I might be tempted but also if the virus situation improves markedly it'll be holiday period busy every week and likely expensive too.

So, Its January 2022 I'm thinking of now. I just wonder how much more expensive than last January it's going to be.
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Anybody booking Austria for next year?


I am, in a similar configuration. Easy cancellable, driving there, ski passes upon arrival. Booked for March. Still attempting a mid-December one, but we'll see, I have a better chance at predicting the weather than skiing these days Smile

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So, Its January 2022 I'm thinking of now. I just wonder how much more expensive than last January it's going to be.


I think the main challenge isn't necessarily prices going up, but availability going massively down. If we're out of this mess by then, I reckon a lot of people will just want to get out as much as possible after being confined. Obviously high demand will also drive up prices, but sadly it's not like they can build 20 extra hotels for next year Smile so supply will kinda stay the same.
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I personally know nine separate groups of people, including several families with children, who have booked to go skiing to Saalbach during January and February. All British, and all apparently adopting an optimistic "wait and see" approach. That doesn't include the several holiday home owners, who are planning to arrive in late November or early December.
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I have a holiday to alpe d'huez booked for late January, and have adopted a strict policy of denial that anythings wrong, seems to be working, I'd highly recommend it, denial really takes the worry out of things! Very Happy
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I'd highly recommend it, denial really takes the worry out of things! Very Happy

Was that advice from Donald Trump?
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