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Maximum Edge Angle

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Does maximum edge angle coincide with maximum pressure? I guess it should, which is why I thought it was just after the fall line?? Probably me engaging and releasing the edges too late! Geeky but interesting and it's thinking about small increments in things like this which will deliver improvements. Also, not having to concentrate on loads of different things is more enjoyable.
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Coming to this more from a mechanics than a ski instructor perspective (as I'm not a ski instructor), I'd equate maximum edge angle with maximum pressure, assuming you're making the ski carve. Though as a pedant I'd say maximum force rather than pressure. That said, I'm happy for anyone to tell me otherwise
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I see edge angle and pressure as independent. I'm trying to keep the pressure that I apply to the skis fairly constant until I get to the apex of the turn in the fall line, reduce pressure after that to avoid the skis juddering.
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@rjs, curious, pressure modulates only as function of gravity and acceleration, in long quasi static turns, how do you control it other then by edge angle changes?
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@rjs, agreed... but you need to be skilful to apply that.
@viv, That is usually the case but as rjs says not always, force vs pressure could be a whole nother nerdy thread Wink
@under a new name, by flexing/extending the joints, think bump skiing..
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rjs wrote:
I see edge angle and pressure as independent. I'm trying to keep the pressure that I apply to the skis fairly constant until I get to the apex of the turn in the fall line, reduce pressure after that to avoid the skis juddering.
Yes, they can be managed independently to a certain extent, but there is still a relationship between turn radius (which is is part determined by edge angle) and the forces being generated. So we can absorb excess pressure after the fall line by using our natural suspension, but there are limits to this.

This circles back to my point about the skill of the skier.
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@skimottaret, but my point is that that's either very subtle (which is fine but nuanced) or transient. And definitely not a skill demonstrated by your average skier. (Actually, neither is knowing what edges do, I guess).

Oh, I see, reading on, what @rob@rar, said.
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@under a new name, modulating pressure is certainly very subtle and skillful
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@skimottaret, doh! re-reading @rjs, comment (sorree!) now I see what @rjs, means. [/dimwit] In my defence, I was thinking really, really long turns ... SG stylee ... not entirely sure why I fixated on that Puzzled my bad
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@under a new name, the best SG skiers tend to be the best at pressure control Wink when training GS we sometimes set SG radius (w/o jumps) to get used to speed and to give yourself more time to manage pressure and edge..
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