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Mid-layer for legs - Solved

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I changed to shell trousers a few years ago and have had my eye out for a decent pair of mid layer trousers for cold/slow days ever since.

It seems I'm not the only one:

https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=129813

I bought a pair of these from Stellar Equipment before the PSB:

https://www.stellarequipment.com/product/m-guide-aerogel-hybrid-pants-blublack/

I really like them, do the job well. But they started to pill almost immediately, so after a few weeks skiing I emailed them a photo, and they at once said they'd replace them but unfortunately they were sold out. They offered me a refund if I sent the damaged ones back instead, but rather than be without I asked if they could replace them with the down ones:

https://www.stellarequipment.com/product/m-ultralight-down-pants-black/

They were happy to do this, and best of all didn't require the damaged ones back after all. They are still useable - they just look very odd! The down ones are seriously warm - I suspect I'll get more use out of them at home than skiing, but will be perfect if I'm skiing with learner friends.

Their customer service was top notch and easy.

I know a some Snowheads are using their outerwear too, it'll be interesting to see how it lasts.
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The Stellar stuff looks pretty cool.

If anyone is looking for a cheap option, I've been using these and they are perfect.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/dwn-pa-sfr-activ-900-m-grey-id_8505711.html?iv_=__iv_p_1_g_84919629806_c_403932335474_w_pla-849014694860_n_u_d_c_v__l__t__r_x__y_15177021_f_online_o_2421312_z_GB_i_en_j_849014694860_s__e__h_1007283_ii__vi__&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv-H-vZm75wIVg7TtCh3dvwPoEAQYAiABEgLR9_D_BwE

Size up!
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@element wow, I don't know how I missed those!
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I paid £8 for some army surplus ones from ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=army+surplus+quiltted&_sacat=0


£6 for these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Surplus-British-Quilted-Liner-Trousers-Army-Thermal-Padded-Winter/132865305775?hash=item1eef63acaf:m:mxAOJUtLAcoGmVUfs9xNJTw
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These:

https://www.addnature.co.uk/hagloefs-barrier-short-black-655550.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz4PI8au75wIVVuDtCh1RYQfpEAQYAiABEgLyn_D_BwE&_cid=21_1_-1_%7Bifpla:9%7D%7Bifpe:8%7D_2234_655550_%7Bcreative%7D_%7Bifpla:pla%7D&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIz4PI8au75wIVVuDtCh1RYQfpEAQYAiABEgLyn_D_BwE&ev_chn=shop

Not as cheap as some of the other ones suggested but in fairness, I did pay a bit less than that for mine. Have taken them on loads of trips and no real signs of wear so a good buy IMO.

Those Stellar ones do look good but not at all cheap, I can understand for the down ones but not sure what justifies the price of the other ones?
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If you're having to wear multiple layers on your legs to combat the cold just wear insulated salopettes.
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Roguevfr wrote:
If you're having to wear multiple layers on your legs to combat the cold just wear insulated salopettes.


not an option if you wear a shell
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
Wear insulated salopettes instead of the shell pants. Obviously.
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Roguevfr wrote:
Wear insulated salopettes instead of the shell pants. Obviously.


not really how it works if you layer up with a shell outer that is 20k or 30k.
As you can adjust layers depending on the day's likely weather forecast.
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Roguevfr wrote:
Wear insulated salopettes instead of the shell pants. Obviously.


And on warm days?
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Mr.Egg wrote:
Roguevfr wrote:
Wear insulated salopettes instead of the shell pants. Obviously.


not really how it works if you layer up with a shell outer that is 20k or 30k.
As you can adjust layers depending on the day's likely weather forecast.


Duh. If the day requires 3 layers because you wear shell pants, then put on the insulated ones. It's not rocket science us it ?
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Tom Doc wrote:
Roguevfr wrote:
Wear insulated salopettes instead of the shell pants. Obviously.


And on warm days?


Then wear the uninsulated ones.

Does your mother still lay out your clothes?
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Just got delivered my new Stellar Aerogel Hybrid pants.
Sure I have not used them at the slope yet, but the fit is fantastic, the length is long enough, just above your ski boots also the pant leg is snug enough so you can easily put the ski sock on top of it, and the fit around waist, these pants will stay up, they do not fall. I have tried some other insulation 3/4 pants but these are really good compared to the others like Bergans Roros. If you are looking for 3/4 insulation shorts, you should really consider these pants. Very Happy Cool
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Stellar... great find.

I am fine with 2XU compression tights + lightweight Patagonia mid-layer under my shells for 70% of days. Some days, I ditch the mid-layer, and on a few days, something warmer would be nice - I do like skiing in storms (good snow and fewer people).
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@Hepe700, odd first post?
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