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Can dynafit ski crampons be used with the Alpinists?
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spyderjon wrote:
Yep, loads of love for the Superlite's. Problem was their price versus the Alpinist which only the true weight weenies would pay to benefit from the 70g saving.

However that's all about to change as Dynafit have drastically reduced their price for 20-21 to compete with the Alpinist and are aslo offering softer U-bows.

with that in mind, the better if the 2 would be?
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@KenX, I can’t fit my wife’s dynafit crampons to this years Alpinist. Nor could the shop. Do I need to bend something?
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@zzz, I found the metal brackets needed a bit of careful tweaking......
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jedster wrote:
Oh - one little wrinkle on mounting the bindings - would welcome peoples' thoughts.
I can just see evidence of the QK sockets from the base - the base is a tad discoloured but not penetrated or noticeably proud.
I notice that the superguides specify 9mm depth rather than more typical (?) 9.5mm and I may have screwed a little deeper after countersinking too.
Should I be worried/do anything or just patch the bases if necessary in future?

That's no problem - you're good to go.


Thanks!
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Oh and another question, just what size is that tiny allen screw that allows you to swap the u-bows? It's smaller than the smallest in any of my allen key sets
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@jedster, 1.5mm, just changed mine from medium to light as I reckon from the effort needed to step in, the medium that comes as standard with the Alpinist 9 is around DIN 9 or so...........
I'm 68kg and look for a DIN of around 7 max, so the medium feels way too strong.....
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@KenX, The soft u-bows should be about 6 DIN, I am told. I'm yet to test them “properly” though.
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@Scarlet, the "soft" u-bow feels at least as strong as my Dynafit set to 7, if not more so....
Whether this is due to the u-shape as opposed to individual pins à la Dynafit IDK, but I'm erring on the safe side...
Wildsnow tested the medium at 9+ compared to Marker's stated 8 and I would concur
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@KenX, I have a readout from a torque tester somewhere from when they were fitted. But they didn't calculate my DIN correctly, so it doesn't really help me much, it's just a force reading. I can find it if you know how to convert it into something useful though?
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I've got alpinist 12s which come with the stiff u-bows which are stated 10 but I read test at 11. I didn't find it hard to step in to them (I'm 75kg after a porky winter) but I never run DINs of 10 so I've got some mediums to install
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@Scarlet, that’d be interesting ta!
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KenX wrote:
@jedster, 1.5mm, just changed mine from medium to light as I reckon from the effort needed to step in, the medium that comes as standard with the Alpinist 9 is around DIN 9 or so...........
I'm 68kg and look for a DIN of around 7 max, so the medium feels way too strong.....


forgot to say thanks!
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@KenX, I'm slightly confused as which value is front and back, because I don't fully understand what's going on tbh (doesn't help that it's in German). But I think you'll probably know so here you go:

Ski L:
MzR (Nm): target - 43, result - good, DIN 4.0
MzL (Nm): target - 43, result - good, DIN 4.0
My (Nm): target - 165, result - 278, DIN N/A

Ski R:
MzR (Nm): target - 43, result - good, DIN 4.0
MzL (Nm): target - 43, result - good, DIN 4.0
My (Nm): target - 165, result - 299, DIN N/A

The target value is based on their calculation of DIN 4.0, so is useless to me (a DIN chart will put me at 6.0, but I normally run 5.5 without issue. I'd pop a 4.0 in an instant, and that was how I hurt my shoulder a few years ago when I didn't check the settings of a borrowed ski). The result "good" will be within a range, though it doesn't specify what it is, so the only numbers that are of use to you are the 278/299 but that might be for the wrong end of the ski! Sorry, not sure if that helps much.
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Thanks for that @Scarlet !
MzR and MzL are the lateral release values and seem to be pretty accurate.
Why the vertical release target (My) is so much higher is anyone's guess (or Spyderjon's)....
What's more worrying is the tested value for My is nearly double what the target value is Shocked
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@Scarlet, was that with the soft or medium spring installed?
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KenX wrote:
What's more worrying is the tested value for My is nearly double what the target value is Shocked

I think this is to do with the target being miscalculated and therefore meaningless. The shop was very concerned when I picked them up, “you do not look like an expert skier” (not sure what an expert skier does look like when standing in a shop...), but I spent an hour on the phone with @spyderjon sorting everything out and he assures me that all is fine.
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KenX wrote:
@Scarlet, was that with the soft or medium spring installed?

Soft. I don't have the medium, it's too strong for me.
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KenX wrote:
@zzz, I found the metal brackets needed a bit of careful tweaking......


Thank you. It's always fun taking a hammer and screw driver to a new pair of bindings! It worked though.
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@zzz, Very Happy
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I see there is a long travel version - looks like more adjustment and brakes. Is there any point going for these instead of the normal version?
https://skimo.co/marker-alpinist-long-travel
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@DB, you can fit brakes to the std version, so LT is just for more adjustment range.........
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@DB, you can fit brakes to the std version, so LT is just for more adjustment range.........


useful if you want to share the skis with other people but has a small weight penalty
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KenX wrote:
@DB, you can fit brakes to the std version, so LT is just for more adjustment range.........


Yes it looks like the standard is 15mm and the long is 30mm adjustment.
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DB wrote:
I see there is a long travel version - looks like more adjustment and brakes. Is there any point going for these instead of the normal version?
https://skimo.co/marker-alpinist-long-travel

The long base might be the only solution if you're having to avoid existing mounting holes or if you're planning a boot change and suspect that you might be downsizing or going to a lug'less boot.
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spyderjon wrote:
DB wrote:
I see there is a long travel version - looks like more adjustment and brakes. Is there any point going for these instead of the normal version?
https://skimo.co/marker-alpinist-long-travel

The long base might be the only solution if you're having to avoid existing mounting holes or if you're planning a boot change and suspect that you might be downsizing or going to a lug'less boot.


Thanks, good to know. Going to try shims first (order sent) but may end up replacing the Radical 1 bindings with Alpinists in the long run.
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I wonder if anyone can help me out here. Am trying to swap the supplied "hard" u-bows on my alpinists for "medium". Original u-bows came out ok, with a bit of effort, but I can't for the life of me get the new u-bows on. All i'm doing is chewing up the carbon/plastic heelpiece. Have tried various attempts at temporarily prising open the u-bow, but to no avail. Any advice much appreciated! Thanks.
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archski wrote:
I wonder if anyone can help me out here. Am trying to swap the supplied "hard" u-bows on my alpinists for "medium". Original u-bows came out ok, with a bit of effort, but I can't for the life of me get the new u-bows on. All i'm doing is chewing up the carbon/plastic heelpiece. Have tried various attempts at temporarily prising open the u-bow, but to no avail. Any advice much appreciated! Thanks.

Simply file/grind a slight chamfer on the inside edges on the ends of the forks to provide a 'lead in'. And before you install the u-bows make sure that you clean up any gawling you've caused on the side of the housing with a needle file.
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My Alpinists are in lockdown at the local ski shop, they developed a lot of slop in the heel risers after 8 weeks of use, the shop has ordered new springs for the risers as they say they've bent, I think it may be wear on the groove in the riser itself, will report back when (if!) I see the skis again...... Very Happy
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Thanks so much for your advice, @
spyderjon. Worked a treat, although I had to file away a worrying amount of metal to get
them on! Very Happy
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