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All mountain ski advice - Black Crows Camox or Atomic Bent Chetler 100?

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Hey folks,

I'm an intermediate-advanced skier and am about to do my first full season in Chamonix. I'm looking for a one-ski quiver that will be able to handle the variety of conditions over ~4 months and expect to do a bit of everything (piste, off piste, touring, and enough playability to practice butters/freestyle etc). Expect to spend around ~50% of my time on piste vs. off and will always opt for powder when I can. Plan is to mount shift bindings on them.

After doing a bunch of research I've landed on the Black Crows Camox and Atomic Bent Chetler 100. Wondering if any of you guys have experience with either/both? I'd say the 3 priorities for me are that they perform well in powder, have sufficient edge grip/stability for carving on piste days, and have good playability (e.g. can do nose butters, small jumps etc.). Less fussed about weight.

Appreciate any experience/advice you have on these two skis. Thanks!
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Welcome to snowHeads @SkiFather snowHead

Also look at Stockli 95.
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I’m bought my camox during my season in Chamonix last winter - it’s the old red twin tip version though. I do really like them for piste or off piste. Found them quite easy going, no trouble at all. That said I have my carver and mostly used my camox for off piste but tested them on piste and gripped pretty well so. I have tested the freebird version and still preferred the normal.
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Another vote for the Stöckli SR95
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Never thought I would see Stöcklis recommended for someone who wants to jib around and nose butter Laughing
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clarky999 wrote:
Never thought I would see Stöcklis recommended for someone who wants to jib around and nose butter Laughing


Why not? If the Camox can do it, why not the SR95?

BTW: The park is not where you will find me, so those terms mean little to me.
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@ulmerhutte, Stöcklis are generally pretty stiff and high performance, torsionally and along the length of the ski - which is basically the exact opposite of what you'd want in a ski to butter (basically bend and balance on the tip of the ski) and jib.


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The Bent Chetler 100 would be great for your requirements. I've recently supplied a pair to a fellow snowHead which I dual mounted with Quiver Killer inserts for both Shifts and Superlite 175's plus skins/crampons = as versatile set-up as you could get.



I'd also recommend looking at the Whitedot Altum range which are currently on an early bird offer.
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Classic - a couple of posts responding to a how do I decide between 2 skis of my short list with a 3rd ski which has a completely different use case.

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telford_mike wrote:
Also look at Stockli 95.


Do not do this, the Stockli is about as far away from what you want in a freestyle all mtn ski as it’s possible to get!
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@SkiFather, I spent last season on the bent chetlers 100, cant speak highly enough of them , mounted with the shift they are good for pretty much everything but longer touring , great edge grip , super easy to move in the trees and also fun if you like to jib , I would say if you start taking on longer tours you might want to invest in lighter skis made for the job , but for the shorter lift served and intro stuff they are spot on
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nordica enforcer 100 is a great single quiver ski. also possibly on the stiff side for jibbing
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maybe look at the icelantic nomad 95. i have the 105 and its very playful. great off piste. ok on piste as you'd expect from a wide-ish playful ski
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@mk28, I went for the Enforcer Free 104 for an all mountain ski as it is more biased towards freeride and a little better suited to powder. It sits in the middle of my ski range for when I will be doing a mix of off and on piste, carves pretty well, holds an edge but in the deep stuff the added rocker makes it much more playful.
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