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Salomon x-max and s-max question

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I have a pair of s-max, I'm wondering how the large pivot on the ankle is loosened. I've seen pics where there are 2 small holes which obviously fit pins on a removal tool. However , my boots, and those others I have seen, those holes are not present.
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I'm not sure the pivot is adjustable..... : do you want to loosen to adjust flex ?
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If I recall not all of the oversized pivots on the salomon boots can be removed.

check out pages 112 and 114 of the salomon tech manual:
https://issuu.com/salomonnz/docs/salomon_tm_alp_wtr2019_300dpi

if you need to remove it here is some inspiration:

https://www.wildsnow.com/24276/extract-remove-ski-boot-cuff-rivet-pivot/
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I don't want to adjust it or alter flex . I want to separate the upper from the clog.
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extremerob wrote:
If I recall not all of the oversized pivots on the salomon boots can be removed.

check out pages 112 and 114 of the salomon tech manual:
https://issuu.com/salomonnz/docs/salomon_tm_alp_wtr2019_300dpi

if you need to remove it here is some inspiration:

https://www.wildsnow.com/24276/extract-remove-ski-boot-cuff-rivet-pivot/


The linked manual is for the later boots. However, in the 2014-15 manual the x-max in both the 120 and 130 flex show the rivets with the holes. My boots from this MY do not have these.

I don't want to start drilling etc.
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Just had a look at my Quests (2014) -- from the inside it looks like the pivots are riveted.
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@Roguevfr, only the 130 flex version and the race models have the detachable cuff, on any other models the only way to separate them is to drill out the back of the rivet and replace them with a bolted version.... there is also an adjustable version available which allows 1 degree of movement medial/lateral
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CEM wrote:
@Roguevfr, only the 130 flex version and the race models have the detachable cuff, on any other models the only way to separate them is to drill out the back of the rivet and replace them with a bolted version.... there is also an adjustable version available which allows 1 degree of movement medial/lateral


OK, fair enough. Referring to the salomon technical manual shows my boots 120 flex as having the removable version, obviously not the case in practice.
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@CEM, speaking of salomon boots - and drifting from the thread title here - have you had any feedback on the new shift boot / was thinking how it compares to the lange ft freetour?
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Roguevfr wrote:
CEM wrote:
@Roguevfr, only the 130 flex version and the race models have the detachable cuff, on any other models the only way to separate them is to drill out the back of the rivet and replace them with a bolted version.... there is also an adjustable version available which allows 1 degree of movement medial/lateral


OK, fair enough. Referring to the salomon technical manual shows my boots 120 flex as having the removable version, obviously not the case in practice.


what they show in the tech manual in terms of a picture are two different things, having stocked X max and S max since the boot was launched the 120 has NEVER had the removeable cuff

@extremerob the shift has a bit more rearward motion than the New XT3 but the lange skis better IMO that siad the fit is very different in the heel/ instep/ ankle area
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