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Les 3 Vallées 2020/21 - Courchevel, Meribel, Val Thorens etc

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A little later than originally planned due to an ongoing series of eye operations it is probably time to kick off this coming winter's thread (we did have snow on the Grand Bec in late August after all...).

Sadly I am going to kick this thread off on a negative vibe, as the environmental destruction continues, all in the name of the 2023 World Championships and the revamped Jockeys piste (henceforth to be known as 'L'Eclipse' apparently - I shudder to think how much they paid a marketing company to come up with that...). Apparently the Col de la Loze was a massive building site this summer as they tore it apart to put in a reservoir (below the Freeride face) for snowmaking to serve the new piste. They have also continued ripping out trees and to top it all off the other day they were helicoptering them out individually from Le Praz... (ie from very close to a perfectly serviceable road).



Why they have massacred the trees around the 25m ski jump is anyone's guess but it does mean that the youngters of the jumping club willno longer have any shade on their summer training sessions (my son used to come back drenched with sweat...).

Anyway, on that happy note, here's hoping that we have some sort of a ski season this year!!
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They've fckd up Jockeys? B@stards.
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Can anyone tell me if you can get by bus down to Brides-les-Bains in the evening? I’m aware of the gondola stopping at 5 but I’d like to have a beer or 2 and still be able to get down.
Thanks
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@andybomb1, not easily. There might be a service bus going from Meribel to Moutiers, but even if there is I don't think it will actually go through Brides-les-Bains. If you could get them to drop you off at the point where the Meribel road reaches the valley road it would only be about 0.5 mile walk into Brides. Winter timetable not yet published, and not sure if there is an evening bus, other than perhaps on Saturday changeover days to link up with trains.

Might have to be taxi.
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Further to the above post, apparently the trees round the top of the 25m jump were diseased spruces - the plan is to allow some more varied trees to grow back/actively replant. However the whole bottom area has been widened to allow for Murettes to still be open when the 'Jockeys/Eclipse' piste is in competition mode...
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andybomb1 wrote:
Can anyone tell me if you can get by bus down to Brides-les-Bains in the evening? Thanks
No. Meribel doesn't go lower than Les Allues and Courchevel stops at La Perriere. There was a one day a week service last year on Sundays but I'm not 100% sure it's actually a ski bus, I think it might be pedestrian only. Also, it hasn't always been on Sundays, I think it used to be Tuesdays so could change again - I wouldn't rely on it without checking first nearer the time.
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Nothing to add other than I'm really looking forward to getting back to Courchevel this season. Not been for a couple of years.
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I guess the only 'good' news is that they'll have artificial snow on L'Eclipse???
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Lots of snow forecast for next week!
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Snowing already just now!
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Lots of snow on VT and Maribel cams. Will it stay? snowHead
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No chance.
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Not sure I will be skiing down to the Chaudanne just yet...:



Though in all seriousness what is down above 2500m on North slopes will probably stay, but that is not necessarily a good thing...
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Always good to be reminded of the wonderful Mr Skifan, who is (I think) part of the team that manages the lifts in Val Thorens. He documents all the new lifts and pistes here, together with many other comings-and-goings in Les 3 Vallées

https://www.flickr.com/photos/skifan/

https://www.youtube.com/user/vacanski/videos

Of interest for the 21/22 season, is the big new gondola in Le Menuires to the top of La Masse. This will replace 3 lifts: Masse 2, Lac Noir and Rocher Noir. It all looks great; but some folks are moaning that means you have to ski all the way to the bottom, and you can't just stick around skiing at the top half. Scheduled to be ready by December 2021.

Map of the new lift here:

https://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/forums/uploads/1557493680/gallery_4132_2931_1239590.jpg
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Are they taking out LM1 as well.

Nostalgic for 123_456"s photo's
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I wonder if big new gondolas will actually be as beneficial as first thought in the post Covid world.
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stevew wrote:
Are they taking out LM1 as well.


Seems not. They are leaving it in place so some folks can just go half-way up for the blue runs; and also, incase they have to close the new lift due to weather conditions at the top — then folks can at least use La Masse 1.
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@Poogle, tah. Does seem a long way top to bottom. Bit Mt Vallon.
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@Poogle, tah. Does seem a long way top to bottom. Bit Mt Vallon.


Nothing to stop you taking refreshing break — for medicinal purposes only of course — at Le 7eme Ciel restaurant/bar at the top of La Masse 1 lift. snowHead
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Such a shame they are scrapping Lac Noir. A slow / cold chair but access to some great off-piste.
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Unless you used to jump off halfway up the chair (!) you should still be able to ski down Choucas to access exactly the same off-piste.
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Back in July we saw the new version of Les Cretes restaurant going up (on the ridge between St M and Meribel) big building works on site . I fear it’s going to be another swanky one. Haven’t got a photo as I went by on my bike. But I guess the plan is to be open by this winter.
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@ecureuil, Frequently exited chair (at the top) and headed up to the right before dropping back down to Rocher Nior chair and repeat. Great fun.
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@Poogle, tah. Does seem a long way top to bottom. Bit Mt Vallon.


Nothing to stop you taking refreshing break — for medicinal purposes only of course — at Le 7eme Ciel restaurant/bar at the top of La Masse 1 lift. snowHead


The big downsides will be on days when it is snowing to 2200m (as an example..) and raining below. Each powder lap will require skiing porridge and getting soaked, when a mid station and above lift would avoid that. I am not a fan of the new concept...
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I agree. It is a shame they didn't also scrap Masse 1, and have a single lift to the top with a mid-station around where Masse 1 currently ends and Masse 2 starts. Perhaps there is some terrain reason why that wouldn't work, or just the expense?
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Snow canons are in action in VT this morning. Test run?
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