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Chamonix 2020/21

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I've just had an email through from CdMB with details of next season's (2020/21) pass prices.

Headline is that as indicated on here a couple of months back, if you took the COVID deal it's about €100 per person cheaper, and you get an extra free day pass (i.e. you now get 2 free day passes vs 1 last year). I tend to get about €50/day for the day tickets on resale to friends (vs €67 headline value).

Email says:
"The "Private Club MBU year" rate should have been offered for winter 2020-2021 at
€ 878.00 for an adult,
€ 1,668.20 for a couple &
€ 746.00 for a young person.

The special COVID-19 "Club Privé 2020-21" purchase renewal option allows you to benefit from an annual MBU rate lower than the purchase price charged for the past two years. By choosing this option, the rates applied are as follows:
MONT-BLANC Unlimited Annual
Adult (26 years old & +) € 753.00
Couple (2 adults) € 715.35 x 2 = € 1,430.70
Youth (5 - 25 years old) € 640.05
This offer is supplemented with two free days “Compagnie du Mont Blanc valley of Chamonix” per ticket (at place of only one in 2019) that you can offer to the people of your choice, i.e. an additional gain of € 67.00 per ticket."

Email also says probably no QC Therme Spa ticket this year - I didn't use the previous 2 years, tho' I probably would have gone at Easter if we'd been out. That's about a €15 loss if you did use it and would have otherwise paid.
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Thanks @snowdave, I hadn't been keeping up with emails for a few days.

It is a good price, and I did opt for the cheaper pass option rather than refund - but I'm still not sure what I'll be able to do this coming winter, and if I'll be able to make use of an annual pass...

If there's a quarantine, then I'll barely be able to go. If there's not, and work remains flexible, I could be there a lot. But it's far too early to tell - and I'm not sure I'll know by the start of October either Puzzled Some flexibility from them on when we could actually take them up on the offer would be great, but of course that's not like CdMB NehNeh
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@fixx, I'm right there with you on that dilemma. I opted for the discount, but now I'm thinking can I commit €2k+ on ski passes for the three of us without knowing if FCO advice will let me go.

The resort may be open, with therefore no refund, but if I'm stuck in UK as FCO advice means no insurance (or quarantine messes with school for my daughter ) then what?
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I've booked 24 flights for next season (assume a family of 4 is 8 flights) & it only cost me £600, the cost savings made that worth it, but the cost savings on possible losing £2k on lift passes does not make it worth while for me. Also I see the resorts remaining open, the French will go as thee is no internal controls for them but if the UK still has the quarantine & UK folks don't go because of that, the resorts won't see that as their problem & no refund would be coming
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Yup, I'm in a similar position wondering if I should actually have taken the refund, and whether I want to commit 2 adults, 2 kids, so close to £2.5k.
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@snowdave, I'm thinking (though I haven't tested the hypothesis) that the refund is a stat entitlement, so if I called up now and said "don't want the discount, I am now opting for the refund" they may have to oblige. BUT, it's CdMB (not to mention France), so even IF I'm right it may not be easy.
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@midgetbiker, please try, and let us know how it goes Happy
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https://www.chamonix.net/english/news/chamonix-renovation-charamillon-validated?fbclid=IwAR2Rm2otaz3t73OseYSfXPlyRAKshYfVBHgjzX4PIF6otsAqJP6f9V6SIIw

They’ve got the green light for the new Le Tour lift. Open for 2022 season.
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@jbob, yay, finally! Might be able to ski by 2022 again as well Happy

Any idea what the final plan was? i.e. was it 2-stages going all the way to the col/tete de balme?

Hopefully it will also delay the day when CdMB rebuilds the top GM lift and ruins my daily exercise Happy
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https://www.chamonix.net/english/news/chamonix-new-charamillon-gondola-be-completed-end-2022

Has some detail. The main point of contention was the site of the bottom station which will now stay where it is. Looks like it will go to the same place as now.

Top ticket GM is a real can of worms I don’t expect it any time soon.
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Thanks for the info. I'm not skied in Chamonix regularly before but am thinking of basing myself there and taking the MBU season pass this year. Am I right in following from above that this is a restricted deal to those of you who had season passes last year, the €878? Is there any way for me to access that price otherwise?

Thanks.
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@jackus, the marketing for "The "Private Club MBU year" early bird rate states that you had to be a previous holder, but I have heard that this isn't a legally enforceable and if you argue hard enough, you can get it.

But that probably means being in Cham during the early bird week (Oct 1 - 9) and presenting yourself at the Montenvers cash desk, probably more than once.
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@jackus, the marketing for "The "Private Club MBU year" early bird rate states that you had to be a previous holder, but I have heard that this isn't a legally enforceable and if you argue hard enough, you can get it.

But that probably means being in Cham during the early bird week (Oct 1 - 9) and presenting yourself at the Montenvers cash desk, probably more than once.


Thanks - that’s very interesting - I’m actually living in Annecy until mid-October so it’s certainly possible to present myself at the cash desk (though ideally it would only be once!). I’ll do a little more research to see if there’s anyone else with success doing this and consider giving it a go!
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@jackus, the back story I heard was that it infringes those pesky EU anti-discrimination rules ...
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@under a new name, @jackus, don't see how it infringes the laws, it's a repeat customer discount not geographically based. When it was based on your residce or residence secondaire card then sure it was 'discriminatory', so that's why it changed. Additionally this year to get it you are supposed to be repeat customer and have rejected all other forms of 19/20 closure compensation.

But it can't hurt to try I guess. Suspect it's urban myth though.

Frustrating for @jackus that they want to access and probably can't, whilst there's a few of us on here who can access but are umming and ahhing about whether we should.
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@midgetbiker, ah, yes, good point. Seems reasonable.
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@under a new name, @jackus, should still be an early bird price though, open to all. Not sure when it usually runs, but something like mid Oct to mid Nov.
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@midgetbiker, I thought the pricing @jackus, was referring to was the "ordinary" earlybird price,

""The "Private Club MBU year" rate should have been offered for winter 2020-2021 at
€ 878.00 for an adult,
€ 1,668.20 for a couple &
€ 746.00 for a young person."

but I think you're right that you have to have bought an MBUA in one of the 3 prior years anyway ...
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@midgetbiker, thanks for the background and agree, it seems within their rights to offer a repeat customer discount so perhaps the discriminatory comments are from an earlier geographical discount.

@under a new name, I read that quote as: "the normal repeat customer discount would be €878" i.e. I would not be eligible for this price. I suppose the non-repeat customer early bird price will be something > €878...
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@jackus, indeed. afraid I never really pay much attention to it. iirc, there's usually a second period of discounts for "new" customers... sign up for CdMB newsletter maybe although it does usually get posted here.

There may be more info on last year's or prior threads.
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My refund from 2019/20 has just arrived in my bank account.
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I’m in two minds about buying the lift pass this season. I have the horrible feeling that the lifts will be open and I won’t be able to get there because of uk travel restrictions or not being insured. However with everything crossed and I can travel and get valid insurance, I don’t want to have pay the full season price in December. I think I will take 750ish gamble.

Anyone know of any insurance that would be valid when Uk FCO says only essential travel to France?
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@chrise1967, depending on how many days you expect to be here, you could go down the "rapid card" route ... not as cheap as an early bird season but rather less risky
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CdMB just released proposed opening dates, PDF links here https://cmb.eliberty-insight.com/campaign/email/en/mirror/YToyOntzOjE1OiJlbWFpbENhbXBhaWduSWQiO2k6MjY2O3M6ODoiZW50aXR5SWQiO2k6NDA4MDY2O30=?pk_campaign_email=266&pk_campaign=24&_oid=327898&utm_campaign=Communiqu%C3%A9%2017%2F9%2F2020%20dates%20et%20horaires%20H20-21&utm_source=CRM&utm_medium=email%20campagne

Les Houches suitably over-optimistic rolling eyes
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@under a new name, thanks, that's brilliant, Les Houches will be open 11 days before GM Happy

I'm also amused by the description of the Le Tour gondola service as "continuous". It's never been more than "intermittent" in a decade.
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@snowdave, quite!
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@under a new name, interesting! And yep, rather optimistic in certain areas Laughing

I might pop out in early Dec to retrieve my abandoned gear, and get a quick ski in - quarantine allowing NehNeh
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@fixx, at some point I’ll be in Chamonix in my car. If you’re stuck i can rescue your stuff. I live in Birmingham.
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That might be really helpful, thanks @jbob! No rush, and not essential to get it back. I have my skis and jacket here - just not boots or ski pants (or waxing gear...) Laughing
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