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Question for Meidjo users with alpine heel

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Hello all, this site's had some great information but I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for on current posts so I figured I'd ask. So, to set the stage I'm looking for a Frankentele solution and am curious if the alpine heel on the Meidjos will meet my needs. (I know I'll take a lot of heat for not committing to one or another, but let's get over that) From watching the alpine heel video on vimeo and reading that the din of the heel is about 1, I'm worried it won't hold up to regular alpine use. Also, I'm worried that it might feel too mushy really driving the boot when carving on groomers. Can anyone who has used the heel comment? Is there any way to firm up the tech heel to a slightly higher din setting? Would it be better to go with a Tele-tech system with a tech heel?(If anyone has any experience with this I'd also be very interested)

The Meidjo system looks really interesting because it's easy to swap on hill mid run(my favorite run I'd alpine the top, tele the bottom) and can be outfitted with brakes, which are two points I really want to make sure I hit when doing the Frankentele set up.


ALPINE MODE from The M Equipment
Vimeo alpine heel video
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The tech heel on the Meidjo is to avoid inadvertent lifting of the boot heel when you don't want to be in tele mode for which it does a great job. However the torsional stiffness/power transmission and the release values etc all come from the toe binding - and the binding is more than capable of high end carving on hardpack etc - which is why many of the WC tele racers are now using the Meidjo on their GS race skis. The weak link in the set-up for hard driving of the ski with your heel down is going to be your tele boot.
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Welcome to SH's. I looked at this as an option for my Meidjo setup but there is only one tele boot manufacturer that offers tech heel inserts, Crispi as per the video . I tried on a pair of their WC boots and the heel pocket was almost straight and I suffered very bad heel lift so I sent em back and went with a pair of Scarpas.

Given only one tele boot being sold is compatible with the meidjo alpine heel unit I decided to forget about the temporary heel unit as an option. Also very expensive imv..
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...only one tele boot being sold is compatible with the meidjo alpine heel unit...


Unless of course you go into über-geek mode Toofy Grin snowHead

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The Meidjo heal unit is cheap, crude and vastly over priced and with no way to adjust the release values to suit the settings you use for the primary binding. Fit a Dynastar heel unit and be safe. Oh, and Crispi boots seem to have gone a bit oversize with their latest offerings Sad Going to try my old liners in my new boots to see if that makes a difference Evil or Very Mad
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The Meidjo heal unit is cheap, crude and vastly over priced and with no way to adjust the release values to suit the settings you use for the primary binding. Fit a Dynastar heel unit and be safe (with brakes). Oh, and Crispi boots seem to have gone a bit oversize with their latest offerings Sad Going to try my old liners in my new boots to see if that makes a difference Evil or Very Mad
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Or, altenatively... don't bother with an alpine heel at all. I've done some pretty steep descents on teles in Chamonix and La Grave, using old 75mm gear (Superloops - later Hammerheads), and alpined when I had too. I did at the time dream of an alpine heel, but that was not an option then. Now I have Outlaws I really don't feel the need. I have skied with my telemark boots in alpine bindings (for complicated reasons to tedious to relate here) --- ugh! Of course the Meidjo will give a much better performance, and have an element of safety. The other thing to note is that you are restricted to Crispis or pre 2016 Scarpa boots (if you can find a pair). My feet just don't get on with Crispis.
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Fit a Dynastar heel unit and be safe (with brakes).

Did you mean dynafit? One of the reasons I was looking at the Meidjo is that it can use brakes.

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Or, altenatively... don't bother with an alpine heel at all. I've done some pretty steep descents

Knew I was going to get some responses like this, but you're missing the point. I'd like to be able to ski alpine and tele. Frankly the argument that you can alpine as hood as anyone in your ntn or 75mm setup just dosen't hold water. If locking the heel down didn't provide a different experience, it wouldn't be the dominant option.
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@TreborRedins, try on a pair of crispi boots and if they work for you, you have some options. If they don't you may as well forget about trying to do both with one setup.. unless you are willing to do some major mods to your boots as per @geoffers !
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@TreborRedins,
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I'd like to be able to ski alpine and tele.


Indeed --- but (IMV) a tele boot even with a locked heel will not give you the same support as a full alpine setup -- it won't feel or perform nearly as well. Whatever you do I hope you enjoy it Very Happy

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Frankly the argument that you can alpine as hood as anyone in your ntn or 75mm setup just dosen't hold water.


I never suggested I can alpine as well on teles as alpines. Of course you can't --- but it is possible to alpine pretty well, good enough for steep descents when there isn't enough room for a tele, which is what I understood from you wanted from your post.
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The old scarpa terminator x has tech inserts front and rear. Can still find a few here and there.
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