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Over the last 10 years we, as a group, have numbered between 10 and 27. We split up either by ability or keenness to cover the piste. Some prefer regular pit stops, others have something to prove. We generally like resorts where you can travel and repeat the odd run that appeals. I think the message is to chill , appreciate the surroundings and do it at a pace you enjoy.
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Ask 20 random Skiers why they enjoy skiing and you are likely to get 20 different answers:

- Some go to be in the mountains and like to ski between coffee stops and have a long lunch
- Some like the social aspect of skiing with friends and family
- Some like to give their Children a life enhancing skill
- Some like to put in the mileage, from first lift to last lift.
- Some like to head Off Piste
- Some like the adrenaline
- Some like working on their technique, while others are happy skiing the way they do
- Some are into their gear
- Some like to be the most stylish looking on the mountain
- Some hit the Nightlife
- Some go skiing, as it's a great way to clear the head.
- Some like the challenge of overcoming their initial fear.

So enjoying a ski holiday, can be about a lot more than just the skiing and it means concentrating on the aspects that you do enjoy and not feeling forced into doing those that you don't....It's a Holistic experience.


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All the resorts you have been to are "big" I think which means at the point you might want to duck out you could be a long way from home. Hubby likes at least 150km of piste, but we have tried in the last couple of years to look for resorts where there is an "easy" way home either on skis or on a lift so that its possible to stop earlier than everyone else without having to navigate a "dangerous" slope.

We went to Les Carroz at New Year - there were 2 blues back to the car park - ideal on paper and easy during the day - but in reality at the end of the day very busy, mogully and just not fun. After 2 days we would plan the day so that I could get a bubble down on my own, or ski to the town with son. From the town there was a bus to the apartment - husband would go and collect the car. Took about the same time to get home - but difference was that I wasn't getting overtired which would have ruined the end of the day.

Trip in March is to Valmeiner - before we booked the accomodation hubby checked the pistes/lifts for me - one reason we didn't go to Alpe D'Huez is the area where we found accomodation could only be skied back to on reds.
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Had a great trip to Ischgl in Jan but that run home was enough to put anyone off skiing.
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I don't believe fitness is the issue for me I think laziness is. Skiing well (or Snowboarding my case, sorry) takes effort and after a few runs of effort I get lazy, stand upright more, don't put the level of pressure on the edge I need to. In turn that becomes poor technique and leads to poor experiences particularly when the going gets tough, that then messes with the mind and when the mind is gone you might as well hit the bar/hot tub and blame the day on ice or your equipment.

Additionally, I'm not to proud to say I suffer with a level of anxiety not just on the snow also in daily life that I have to overcome. I can tell you every morning before I've completed the first run I'm consumed with fear. I can't tell you why I continually go back to the slopes, part of me won't be beaten it's in my nature to never give up in anything I do, giving up would be the worst thing for me. Heading to the mountains is also something I longed to do from when I watched ski Sunday in the early 80's as a 5/6 year old and I absolutely adore the mountain environment. What I need to come to terms with is that I never will be some sort of Sean White, I don't want to be, I just want to enjoy the environment and not be too fearful.

I have two small boys who go off with ESF you can imagine the increase in blood pressure and stress that puts on someone who already suffers. I can feel it now writing this.

Really enjoyed reading this thread it's helped me a lot.
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Old Fartbag wrote:
Ask 20 random Skiers why they enjoy skiing and you are likely to get 20 different answers:

- Some go to be in the mountains and like to ski between coffee stops and have a long lunch
- Some like the social aspect of skiing with friends and family
- Some like to give their Children a life enhancing skill
- Some like to put in the mileage, from first lift to last lift.
- Some like to head Off Piste
- Some like the adrenaline
- Some like working on their technique, while others are happy skiing the way they do
- Some are into their gear
- Some like to be the most stylish looking on the mountain
- Some hit the Nightlife
- Some go skiing, as it's a great way to clear the head.
- Some like the challenge of overcoming their initial fear.

So enjoying a ski holiday, can be about a lot more than just the skiing and it means concentrating on the aspects that you do enjoy and not feeling forced into doing those that you don't....It'a a Holistic experience.


Great post! But what if you like all of those???
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James77 wrote:

Additionally, I'm not to proud to say I suffer with a level of anxiety not just on the snow also in daily life that I have to overcome.


No shame in that bud!
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@hang11, +1 . THIS
I got bored and fell out of love with skiing about 15 years ago.
I skied since 1986, and started boarding in 1999 so there were a few years of cross-over, but now I ski one day every 2 seasons, and board 45ish days per season.
There's no pressure go fast, to do amazing jumps to go down black runs or mogul fields. No agonising over a plastic avi shovel versus an ally one, you don't give a skinny rats @rse about merino mid-layers or which type of Go-Pro to use.
Just clip in, smile, be yourself and have fun.
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@James77, +1 everything you said (except the having two small boys bit Madeye-Smiley )
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No one conquers the mountain. What nonsense. For what its worth I am 62, have skied since I was 12 (school trip). I am a holiday skier, for a holiday skier I am pretty decent, but as a lets say, a club skier from an alpine country I am totally crap. At my age I wont be having lessons, and I have no real desire to ski tour, ski in fresh powder, (except a tootle off on the side of pistes), or do moguls. I can come down most things, but really like clear blue days, freshly prepared pistes, where I can ski with total confidence and actually look pretty good. My main sport is golf, which I started 3 years before I first skied. I am 9 handicap at golf, and for golfers out there I put my skiing at a 14 handicap. For none golfers, I'm good enough to have won a number of club competitions over the years
The point is do whatever it is you enjoy. I will be going to Zermatt in early March, I will ski with my wife quite a lot in the morning till late lunch, then find a great restaurant, perhaps Findlerhof, have a good meal, enjoy the scenery, have a little alcohol, and then ski back down. Fantastic. oh and perhaps the live band in the Papperla at night.
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It's meant to be a ski holiday not an episode from Who Dares Wins. Enjoy yourself doing the things you enjoy doing and if that means skiing the easy stuff only, starting late and finishing early, missing a day here or there, burning the candle at one end or another -then so what? Don't be pressured by others into doing things you don't want to. Relax and enjoy...it's your holiday, you deserve it. Very Happy
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BobinCH wrote:


Great post! But what if you like all of those???

It means you're a snowHead
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I actually think I enjoy the planning and anticipation more than the skiing - and its a holiday for those "winter" months. I only work so that I can go on holiday.

We're hoping to go to USA 3 weeks in June, 2 weeks sailing in Greece in Sept... maybe a long weekend around Whitsun, and hopefully some w/ends camping in August... but what to do between Xmas and Easter when you only have a week? As I am not a great sight-seer there aren't many places that you can go to for a week in Feb/March that are warm enough for me to lie by a pool. The one year I couldn't ski daughter and I went to Lanzarote - it was OK, she was studying and I sat on the balcony reading, but it was t-shirt and hoody weather not quite warm enough to lie out in swimwear. I can't be bothered travelling long distance for just a week, so skiing seems the best option - until I get too old/unfit.
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I echo a lot of the sentiments here, though I confess I have never “gone off” skiing. When you’re away for just a week with friends it does feel churlish not to ski one afternoon, but I don’t think you should see it as the start of ceasing to enjoy it. We all have good days and bad ones. Crowds and hardening pistes can make it feel very unrewarding. Time to think laterally! It’s easy to see a ski resort as a bubble and only from the perspective of the pistes when there is so much more if you widen your horizons.
If you love the mountains and solitude, go for a proper walk and take a picnic. Even from somewhere as bleak as VT are some great places literally metres from the crowds where you can drink in the solitude and atmosphere.
Stay in more picturesque traditional resorts. Snow shoeing is great. Ditto trying a bit of ski touring, or a beginners off piste lesson.
I hate the end of day ski bragger, especially if the person concerned is talking tosh. Being female, the dick swinging of the self styled alpha males is particularly galling, especially when it’s all bull. I tend to keep my counsel. FWIW, the better skier I have become, the more I realise how far down the scale of beginner to expert I really am. People watching (and earwigging Cool ) in bars and on lifts can be very entertaining!

Maybe, if you like skiing with your wife, take a trip without friends. I love skiing with Mr P...just the two of us exploring, skiing, finding a nice lunch spot or taking the odd lesson or guided session. He’s a bit faster and more gung ho, and I am more careful on the off piste and so we balance each other out.
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jirac18 wrote:
James77 wrote:

Additionally, I'm not to proud to say I suffer with a level of anxiety not just on the snow also in daily life that I have to overcome.


No shame in that bud!


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Captain Primrose wrote:
Had a great trip to Ischgl in Jan but that run home was enough to put anyone off skiing.


That's why lots in Ischgl download. I do to half way on the Silvrettabahn then ski just about back to the hotel door...
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twoodwar wrote:
No one conquers the mountain. What nonsense. For what its worth I am 62, have skied since I was 12 (school trip). I am a holiday skier, for a holiday skier I am pretty decent, but as a lets say, a club skier from an alpine country I am totally crap. At my age I wont be having lessons, and I have no real desire to ski tour, ski in fresh powder, (except a tootle off on the side of pistes), or do moguls.


With you on virtually all that. But at 58 I did have a private lesson after thinking like you I couldn't be bothered with them; a number of little things I was doing wrong - it was certainly worth it, and I actually ski better now - and find it easier (apart from more burning in the thighs with all that up and down stuff...)

Probably have a 2 hour private lesson each holiday now - that lesson was 4 hours which was very tiring...
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buchanan101 wrote:
twoodwar wrote:
No one conquers the mountain. What nonsense. For what its worth I am 62, have skied since I was 12 (school trip). I am a holiday skier, for a holiday skier I am pretty decent, but as a lets say, a club skier from an alpine country I am totally crap. At my age I wont be having lessons, and I have no real desire to ski tour, ski in fresh powder, (except a tootle off on the side of pistes), or do moguls.


With you on virtually all that. But at 58 I did have a private lesson after thinking like you I couldn't be bothered with them; a number of little things I was doing wrong - it was certainly worth it, and I actually ski better now - and find it easier (apart from more burning in the thighs with all that up and down stuff...)

Probably have a 2 hour private lesson each holiday now - that lesson was 4 hours which was very tiring...


That's what I do - a 90 minute or two hour private early in each trip. Sets me back on the right track (not much up and down stuff these days, though!!)
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@buchanan101, @LOTA, my wife and I may well take your snowHead advice
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It's an Alpine Holiday. Do what you wish! Mix the skiing with walking/Spa'ing/ski'doing

Personally I have taken a dislike to piste-skiing and plan to only do off-piste weeks. Pistes are scary places when busy. Try Italy or smaller Austria/French resorts in January/late March.

Done a few hundred dives now and find that boring now outside the likes of current dives in Maldives or deeper tropical wrecks. Too many excellent trips have jaundice'd me. Actually missed skiing for a couple of years to concentrate on diving back in the 90s.

Now for real fear try sailing. 50knts with just you and the wife n the Solent with all those big ships. Jump down a couloir anytime! Have sold the yacht.

You are so lucky to have a wife who loves skiing. I am planning to curtail my skiing as I miss being away from her (okay so it is five weeks a year).

My ideal ski day would be off-piste with mates then be teleported home after an apres-ski beer.

Snowboarding is a dangerous sport? Coming from the off-piste onto a slope last week and an elderly boarder came flying in front of me out of control and landed with a massive 'snap' - his tibia. Poor bugs are always falling over.
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I think early in my skiing days I got to a stage where it was about surviving the slopes and being happy to get to the end of the day. But that changed when we one day stayed having a coffee at the top of the mountain, the run home was a steep red that was always a challange, however when the place was closing as the last lift up had stopped we headed off home, there was nobody on the run and it was a pure joy to ski. I realised then it wasn't the skiing I didn't like, it was all the people , ( watching out for others who may just ski into me) . We started to go to less popular resorts, and with the advantage of less crowded slopes, no lift ques etc, skiing became a joy again. Sometimes it is just something small that makes a difference.
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Ive always played plenty of sports, football, cricket, table tennis, dinghy sailing, yacht sailing, skiing....

With some of them I just don't enjoy them that much as I get older, and ive started concentrating only on things I enjoy.
saying that I get a real buzz out of skiing and don't stop all day. I will add that skiing with other people does my sweede in....one other person is the max for me...personally I like to be on my own, dangerous or not. I can go at my own pace then. This includes the wife....
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Old Fartbag wrote:
Ask 20 random Skiers why they enjoy skiing and you are likely to get 20 different answers:

- Some go to be in the mountains and like to ski between coffee stops and have a long lunch
- Some like the social aspect of skiing with friends and family
- Some like to give their Children a life enhancing skill
- Some like to put in the mileage, from first lift to last lift.
- Some like to head Off Piste
- Some like the adrenaline
- Some like working on their technique, while others are happy skiing the way they do
- Some are into their gear
- Some like to be the most stylish looking on the mountain
- Some hit the Nightlife
- Some go skiing, as it's a great way to clear the head.
- Some like the challenge of overcoming their initial fear.

So enjoying a ski holiday, can be about a lot more than just the skiing and it means concentrating on the aspects that you do enjoy and not feeling forced into doing those that you don't....It's a Holistic experience.


Absolutely spot on......I find the whole experience just fixes my mind and mindset like no other time away can.
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Ok. Skiing is ( unless you are wearing a number and a catsuit) a hobby/pastime, not a sport. When skiing, you are generally on holiday. Holidays usually involve chilling out and relaxing. Why should skiing descend into willy waving and self analysis?

When you go diving, you tend not to compare techniques or finning efficiency - you look at the nice fish or marvel at the scenery. Generally, there more relaxed you are, the less air you use and the more fish/scenery you can enjoy. The same is true is skiing.

Concentrate on the bits you enjoy and have a fantastic time in the hills. Lunch like a boss. Ignore other skiers. Make new friends. Start late, finish early. Start early, finish late. Don't compare yourself to others. Relax. Be more boarder!

I love skiing. Sometimes I love the skiing best, sometimes I love the party best, sometimes Il ove the people best. I always love the mountains.

A wise man once said," if sex isn't your favourite thing, you're not doing it right.".



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There’s some people, like people who can’t bear the thought of cold toes, who will never like skiing..but they won’t get to the point where they are halfway good.

For those that do, if you find you aren’t having fun, you probably just need a different bunch of people to ski with every now and again.

I mean « skiing » means différent things to different people. So the birthday bash in arabba is totally different to the the off piste bash in la grave. Some people love both but there’s a fair few who would be miserable at one and deliriously happy at the other.

So I doubt that « skiing » is the issue, it’s usually just that people dont want the same things on their holiday.
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