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apart from the horses at Hidden valley, the only other place I have seen horses in the Dolomites was La Villa.

Many years ago....
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Beat me to it !!

https://www.suedtirol.info/en/experience/Restaurant-Trattoria-Alla-Tana-dell-Orso_activity_71158

looks like the Germanic (or Ladin) name is 'Restaurant Oies'
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Seems to be piste 31 out of Badia under lift 61.
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The photos in my link make it look Fab Smile
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It was a great restaurant. The guide we found for a couple of days (the older guy in the first pic, retired instructor) was a Ladin native, he took small groups max eight people out for the day for 10Euro each then ended up spending it all at the apri at the end of the day. He lived in a big chalet at the bottom of the Ciampinoi, he was a really nice guy. After meeting at the bottom of the lift he took the group down the red under the Ciampinoi lift then told the group who were good enough to stay and those who weren't. Tough on a few but it made for a great tour with only good skiers/boarders. We also met him one evening in the Christmas market playing the Alpine horn.
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sounds like great day out Smile
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Thank you all. The 3D Dolomite Ski thing is awesome!

Can I test your local knowledge with another question?

- Can a non-skier get to the Daniel Hutte at Seceda for lunch? How about the Jimmi Hutte?

My sister doesn’t want to ski, but would like to meet us for lunch. These are my favourite places.
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@IanTr, Jimmi Hutte for sure. Less than a 5min walk from the gondola.
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Definate yes for Jimmy hut if coming on the gondola from Colfosco. If coming from selva and dantercepies then im not sure. You certainly cant ski to it from dantercepies. But im not sure if the footpath from dantercepies is open in winter to walk to it. I know there is a path but cant remember if i ever saw anyone walking on it in winter
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To get to Armentarola from the main plataeu, you actually have 4 options to get to the armentarola cut off from piste 9A/11. You can take piste 11 from piz sorega; 10A from Las vegas hut/top of Ciampai chair; 10 from Bioch hut or 9A from pralongia hut. Whichever one you take just be careful to not ski pass the cutoff. Yes its signposted but not very obvious. When you reach the top of the drag coming up from armentarola, make sure you ski down beside the drag to armentarola and dont turn left which takes you to san cassiano.
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For the return to Corvara, up Sorega and then ski down to take Biok would be quicker. Piste 7 then 8 into Corvara.
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Definate yes for Jimmy hut if coming on the gondola from Colfosco. If coming from selva and dantercepies then im not sure. You certainly cant ski to it from dantercepies. But im not sure if the footpath from dantercepies is open in winter to walk to it. I know there is a path but cant remember if i ever saw anyone walking on it in winter


I also didn’t think the path from Dantercepies to Jimmy’s was open in winter but this year it seems it is
https://www.dantercepies.it/en/winter/hiking/
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Is Madonna in the Dolomites , there seems to be very little mention of Madonna in this thread so maybe there is another thread elsewhere ?
My question is how reliable is Madonna for snow cover early April ?
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"Can a non-skier get to the Daniel Hutte at Seceda for lunch?.."

Yes, but it would be a 'trudge'.... :: Forget the Daniel and just aim for the restaurant at the top of Seceda.

Bus from Selva to Ortisei cable-car for the Seceda.

https://www.seceda.it/en/eat-drink
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Madonna di Campiglio is in the Brenda Dolomites, so maybe 60-70miles west of the Sella Ronda and the main dolomiti resorts.

There’s a whole thread on April skiing there here https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=106166
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albob wrote:
"Can a non-skier get to the Daniel Hutte at Seceda for lunch?.."

Yes, but it would be a 'trudge'.... :: Forget the Daniel and just aim for the restaurant at the top of Seceda.

Bus from Selva to Ortisei cable-car for the Seceda.

https://www.seceda.it/en/eat-drink


Gondola then cable to be precise. wink
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Thank you all.

albob - is the restaurant at the top of Seceda comparable to the Daniel..?
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Thank you all.

albob - is the restaurant at the top of Seceda comparable to the Daniel..?


Great views, but not quite the same charm. Daniel does get super-busy nowadays though.

There's also a big terrace on top of the Col Raiser gondola, nice views across to the Sassolungo.

https://www.colraiser.com/en/restaurant

Rita Schenk seems to be offering a cheery welcome!!

Do you think she dresses a bit warmer in Winter?!? Shocked Laughing
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@IanTr, As Luigi has said it lacks the charm of a Hutte, it is large and modern. Food is good with great views

http://www.restaurantseceda.com/en/
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Super Dolomiti are reporting 126 lifts operational and 317km of pistes open today. So about a quarter of the system open so far.
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In Kronplatz today, conditions pretty good, ski testing day so tried some new skis Smile. What confused me was getting home to San Vigilio area from top of Kronplatz. Runs all seemed closed as being pisted from halfway down mountain, so had to find an off piste route through the trees! Some minor snowfall now but seems like it will only be a sprinkling. Might try 3 Zinnen tomorrow or next day or some of Alta Badia meant to be open also, need to do careful study to know exactly where, (today connection runs from San Vigilio not open)
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Peter, thanks for the 'on-site' report :: tree skiing can be interesting !
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Thank you all.

albob - is the restaurant at the top of Seceda comparable to the Daniel..?


No but the view is pretty spectacular. It's our go to spot for hot chocolate or coffee.

I'm pretty sure you could walk to Jimmy's, just keep to the edge of short piste.
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Forecast looks superb for skiing this week. Lots if sunny weather light winds and very dry air, perfect for snowmaking. Slopes should be very quiet. snowHead


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Lots more stuff open today...

https://www.altabadia.org/en/winter-holidays/italian-alps/open-lifts-snow-report.html
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Going to Alta Badia in 17 days! Thanks for the snow news! ⛄️
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@Snowflake007, welcome to snowHeads! snowHead
Hope you have a great time in Alta Badia, have you been to the area before, if not you're in for a treat! Very Happy
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No - never been but I do love a treat! Can't wait! ⛷
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Super Dolimiti reporting 235 out of 451 lifts operational today and 597kms of piste open. So about half the system is already open Cool

The Alta Badia is reporting 60% of its slopes now prepared for the season with valley pistes depths averaging 53cms.

Weatherwise this week looks to have been fantastic with a temperature inversion in recent days allowing snowmaking on the lower runs. The forecast for next week is colder at altitude but it looks as though the skiing conditions will remain good with predominantly dry weather and good visibility snowHead
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Sounds perfect! Hope you continue having a great time!
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Vintage season for Italy.
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Peter S wrote:
Super Dolimiti reporting 235 out of 451 lifts operational today and 597kms of piste open. So about half the system is already open Cool

The Alta Badia is reporting 60% of its slopes now prepared for the season with valley pistes depths averaging 53cms.

Weatherwise this week looks to have been fantastic with a temperature inversion in recent days allowing snowmaking on the lower runs. The forecast for next week is colder at altitude but it looks as though the skiing conditions will remain good with predominantly dry weather and good visibility snowHead


Super Dolomiten doesn’t include the western Dolomites (Madonna, etc) right?
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@südtirolistdeutsch, correct. They are covered by a separate group of ski passes (Skirama).
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The super Dolomiti area is reporting 357 lifts operational and 940kms of piste now open and prepared for the season.

The Sella Ronda is reported to be open today in both directions. The interlinked area of Alta Badia, Val Gardena and Arabba is now mostly open with 143 lifts running today and 333kms of piste already skiable.

This week looks like a modern winter classic. A west to north westerly flow will bring unstable Atlantic air across the alps. The western and northern alps will get heavy snow at times particularly at altitude. The Dolomites will remain sheltered and probably get very little. Happily there is already a great base so the good visibility, open lifts and drier air will probably be welcomed by those lucky enough to be there this week. snowHead
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https://www.bergfex.com/kronplatz/webcams/c6698/

the very lowest runs at Kronplatz down to 930m now appear to be open and so is the fearsome Piculin black snowHead

Today, tomorrow and Thursday look very good and then Friday and Saturday may be windy with a small amount of snow on this side of the Alps. A lot more further west. Warming up next week but looking predominantly dry ?
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4 weeks until our first ever full week in the Dolomites - can't wait.

A total change to visit somewhere completely new so looking forward to exploring as much as we can in a high-mileage area as total newbies.

We will be based in Vigo di Fassa, with use of a hire car. As the sheer scale and number of the different ski areas don't exactly lend themselves to easy research, the question for you Dolomite experts (yes, I'm looking at you Peter S Laughing ) is, what is not to be missed from there? We know of the Sella Ronda of course - what of any classic routes, experiences, lovely villages, mountain refuges, views etc can be recommended? Eg what's this about being dragged by a horse?! And I'd be interested to see some of the World War I historical sites too, if possible.

I'm taking it as read that we'll need the full Dolomiti Superski pass for all of this Puzzled

Thanks in eager anticipation Very Happy
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I think you will need the full Dolomiti Superski pass if you are venturing much beyond your "home valley".

The horse tow at the end of the "Hidden Valley" has to be done. The actual name of the run is Armentarola, plenty of info on this forum.
There is a WW1 ski itinerary which includes that run and the Cinque Torri area - buses are involved.
Views are everywhere, not least the one from the top of the Lagazuoi cable car at the head of the Hidden Valley.
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@mountainaddict, Valle Silver pass was fantastic for us for a week (see my March 2019 trip report - link in my signature) with access to about 10 different ski areas... But NOT the main Sella Ronda.

We deliberately wanted to leave the Sella Ronda for a future trip so that was fine for us. If this a once in a lifetime trip for you, get the full pass.

Enjoy!
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4 weeks until our first ever full week in the Dolomites - can't wait.

A total change to visit somewhere completely new so looking forward to exploring as much as we can in a high-mileage area as total newbies.

We will be based in Vigo di Fassa, with use of a hire car. As the sheer scale and number of the different ski areas don't exactly lend themselves to easy research, the question for you Dolomite experts (yes, I'm looking at you Peter S Laughing ) is, what is not to be missed from there? We know of the Sella Ronda of course - what of any classic routes, experiences, lovely villages, mountain refuges, views etc can be recommended? Eg what's this about being dragged by a horse?! And I'd be interested to see some of the World War I historical sites too, if possible.

I'm taking it as read that we'll need the full Dolomiti Superski pass for all of this Puzzled

Thanks in eager anticipation Very Happy


You can get the Valle Silver pass which covers many areas accessible from Vigo along Val di Fassa, plenty to keep you busy for a week, but to do the Sella Ronda/Hidden Valley/Marmolada/WW1 Tour you will need the Dolomiti Superski. https://www.fassa.com/EN/Prices-Skipass-Silver/

Sella Ronda can be busy, but I guess you need to do it once, the scenery all the way around is pretty special. There are 3 access points from Val di Fassa at Campitello, Canazei & Alba

The Hidden Valley is a highlight, but it is quite a long trek from Val di Fassa. You would need to access from the new 3S gondola at Alba and drop down to Arabba, then onto Pralongia & Armentarola. There has already been a lot of info posted on this on here already.

The Marmolada does have amazing 360 degree views as it's the highest point in the entire Dolomites. You need a clear day for this, don't bother if not.There can be big queues for the 3-stage cable car though. Best way to access from Val di Fassa is to drive over Passo Fedaia, if it's open and park by Rifugio Fedaia and ski down to the cablecar.

The WW1 tour is doable if you don't mess about, you need to catch 2 buses from Malga Ciapela to Alleghe then Pescul to Fedare or viceversa, depending on which way you do it. Doing it Anti-clockwise includes the Hidden Valley, Clockwise includes the Marmolada, so you could kill two birds with one stone. Access the route at Rifugio Fedaia again. Search on here for more info. It is pretty well signposted, but if you can tag along with someone who knows the route, it will definitely make things easier. https://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/Experience/Sellaronda-Grande-Guerra

There is an open air museum at Lagazuoi where you can visit the tunnels that the soldiers dug in WW1 https://www.altabadia.org/en/summer-holidays/trekking-hiking/open-air-museum-lagazuoi-5-torri-1.html

Another famous trip from Val di Fassa over to Val Gardena is to do the Saslong Mens Downhill, the catch the Funicular across the valley to the Seceda sector. From the top of the sector you can ski down to Ortisei on the 'James Bond' run, locally known as La Longia and then all the way back again.

Equally you can have a lot of fun in the smaller areas along Val di Fassa. Passo San Pellegrino/Falcade is a great ski area. Alpe Lusia, Carezza, Catinaccio, Buffaure/Alba, Latemar, are all great spots, probably a lot quieter midweek that the Sella Ronda.

As to places to eat, they are plentiful and all pretty good, but the traditional wooden huts have the most charm. Scotoni on the Hidden Valley is a fave. Daniel on Seceda, Jimmy's at Passo Gardena, Villa Frainela for coffee & cakes just above Selva nursery slopes. Fredarola has great wood-fired pizzas above Canazei.

All the high points already mentioned have amazing views, but I reckon the view from Rifugio Maria on Sass Pordoi is the most spectacular.


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Rifugio Friedrich August above Campitello is also good. With added yak.
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