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@NickyJ, yes, two adults, two 10yo.
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@medlington, Bansko it is then!
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marodo2712 wrote:
@NickyJ, yes, two adults, two 10yo.


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marodo2712 wrote:
@Whitegold, I'd love to go to Italy (and Andorra), but I've got to keep it under £2k all in, hence my curiosity about Bulgaria.



You can easily do Italy or Andorra for 2k.

Sauze, Livigno, Airbnb, etc.

Bansko is tiny and flat.

It has <50km of trails.

I ride that in a day.

Bulgaria is good for a weekend.

Sucks for a week.
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Whitegold wrote:
marodo2712 wrote:
@Whitegold, I'd love to go to Italy (and Andorra), but I've got to keep it under £2k all in, hence my curiosity about Bulgaria.



You can easily do Italy or Andorra for 2k.

Sauze, Livigno, Airbnb, etc.

Bansko is tiny and flat.

It has <50km of trails.

I ride that in a day.

Bulgaria is good for a weekend.

Sucks for a week.


2x kids on their first trip.
They wont be riding it in a day
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I can't see us doing flight, transfer, hotel/chalet, board, pass, equipment, and ski school for four in Sauze for £2k.
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I've had three family ski holidays to Borovets, starting when the kids were 7 and 4. All were good. I'm going back this winter for a family trip and later a boys trip. You can't beat the price and the mountain is fine is the snow is OK.

I think in terms of the reputation of the place you probably find what you are expecting/looking for. If you're strolling round with your kids at 7pm you pet the huskies, play in the snow and then back to the lobby for a hot chocolate etc etc - like anywhere else really.

No doubt if you're falling out of a bar at 2am you might come across a hooker or gangster or two - but I wouldn't know!
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Borovets is fine, as above.

I'm going again in January, we've booked a cute little 3-bedroom chalet (sleeps eight) with its own sauna for £900 for the week. Return flights were £123 including hold luggage.

I've been twice before. Snow was fine, food was cheap and pretty good. No queues in mid-January. Empty pistes at the top of the gondola, beautiful views.

Second trip was less fun as my coat and phone got stolen and someone also tried (and failed) to steal my hire skis, so you have to be careful.

But overall you get a cheap, decent ski holiday - and there are plenty of families with young children around.
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You could look at Jasna in the Czech Republic. They have invested heavily in their lifts and snowmaking in recent years. Skied their with the SCGB a few years back and definitely worth it. I would also think about Zakopane in Poland. Never skied their though did do a summer visit about 14 years ago (right before the 1937 cable car up Kasprowy Wierch got replaced with a brand new Swiss one, by far the scariest lift ride I have ever taken), and it certainly has a lot of non skiing activities to offer. Both are cheaper than more traditional "cheap" options are in western europe. There are other smaller resorts in both Poland and the Czech Republic.
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Chequershorn wrote:
No doubt if you're falling out of a bar at 2am you might come across a hooker or gangster or two


Done that alot but never seen either (without looking for them that is)
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Like others have said, Bansko if fine for a long weekend. Apres is good and cheap. I have been about 10 times now. Never seen any Mafia or underworld people, but apparently it is there. We keep ourselves to ourselves and enjoy a nice beer and great food in the evening.
It would be fine for beginners but do get private lessons and avoid holiday peak period as gondola queue can be bad. We go mid March at get to the main gondola about 9:30. Normally there is up to 30 min wait, but in peak holidays it can be 2 hours plus.
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We went to Borovets back when Dark Lord Cuddles was a toddler. His Mum got us a catered week for about £130 each.

The currency was in freefall and those who changed all their money at the start of the week got 1/2 what they'd have got at the end of the week (literally!).
On the tourist street, prices would be changing constantly to keep up with exchange rates. I'm not talking daily changes: 3 or 4 times a day, word would go down through the market what the rate had got to and they'd all update their prices. The 'punters' thought it was cheap though because a bottle of beer was always less than a quid.

The hotel food was utterly dire so on the last night we ate out with a couple of friends, in a little local bar, away from the tourist track. Nobody in there spoke any English but Dark Lord Cuddles' Mum had Russian and a little Czech so managed to bridge the gap.
Dinner for 4, including drinks = 80p
Them were the days Wink

I've not been back though Confused
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marodo2712 wrote:
I can't see us doing flight, transfer, hotel/chalet, board, pass, equipment, and ski school for four in Sauze for £2k.


If you go first or second week in Jan after New Year I reckon you could do it for around 2.4k ....... but you would have to book at the death and accept the consequences of such.

The extra hundred quid each would be worth it ...... you don't need to be told this but cost and value aren't the same thing.

The s/c Olympic Village apartments below Sestriere throw up some good deals, I've seen them at less than three hundred basic deal, and it's only a gondola ride over the hill to Sauze. Supermarket in the basement isn't too pricey ....... food isn't a complete rip off, 660ml bottled beers less than a quid, big bottles of wine pennies .......

If you're stuck on Bulgaria, Pamporovo is a distant second ........ but better than not going if you're on a strict budget and 2k should more than cover it.
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Bansko in Bulgaria is Europe's cheapest destination for family skiing.

Research has found the typical cost for equipment hire, lift passes and lessons for six days is 1-thousand-250 pounds for two adults and two children.

The four next cheapest resorts are all in Italy.

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We did Borovets in 09 after the credit crunch hit us hard.

Cheap holiday so we went on the assumption that it was what it was but at least we were skiing. We had a great time and the skiing was OK for us as our son was 5 at the time so no real need for huge resort miles.

We didn't need lessons or adults gear and everything else was fairly cheap.
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HoneyBunny wrote:
Just seen this news story:

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Bansko in Bulgaria is Europe's cheapest destination for family skiing.

Research has found the typical cost for equipment hire, lift passes and lessons for six days is 1-thousand-250 pounds for two adults and two children.

The four next cheapest resorts are all in Italy.



Yeah with no hits in Poland, Slovakia or Slovenia I have to question how well that was put together. That is traditionally Bulgaria is a destination known for cheap skiing and the main operators have packages for it. Does not make it actually the cheapest and if your "research" is looking through the main operators brochures you will come up with erroneous results.
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I wouldn’t go Bulgaria if it was free racist t—ts
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@charlie26, it is ...

It’s cheap with awful food and dreadful people trying to f@ck you over at every opportunity.

I went to Borovets ... awful place .. Wild West of skiing in my view .. then there is the queue for main lift
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BCjohnny wrote:
marodo2712 wrote:
I can't see us doing flight, transfer, hotel/chalet, board, pass, equipment, and ski school for four in Sauze for £2k.


If you go first or second week in Jan after New Year I reckon you could do it for around 2.4k ....... but you would have to book at the death and accept the consequences of such.

The extra hundred quid each would be worth it ...... you don't need to be told this but cost and value aren't the same thing.

The s/c Olympic Village apartments below Sestriere throw up some good deals, I've seen them at less than three hundred basic deal, and it's only a gondola ride over the hill to Sauze. Supermarket in the basement isn't too pricey ....... food isn't a complete rip off, 660ml bottled beers less than a quid, big bottles of wine pennies .......

If you're stuck on Bulgaria, Pamporovo is a distant second ........ but better than not going if you're on a strict budget and 2k should more than cover it.

The last TO trip I did was to Sauze at Easter 2013 I think. We went into town to get junior a Hobbit book and came back with a skiing holiday (as you do). Last minute and £1600 for 4 without lift passes or ski school.
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