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Saalbach - Hinterglemm - Leogang - Fieberbrunn 2019/20 Official Unofficial Thread

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@imull, Send me a PM with your email address (or contact me using my website below).
Small hotels that might suit are: Pension Enzian, Hotel Peter, Hotel Koenig.
There is only one catered chalet in Saalbach (we don’t really need them), which is Ski Miquel’s Chalet Christina.
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Saalbach has just published its piste map for next season. Apart from the fact that it shows the new Zell am See Express gondola, from Viehhofen up to the Schmittenhohe (but curiously not the piste leading back towards Viehhofen), the only real change from last year’s piste map is that most of the piste numbers have been changed.
This renumbering has not been explained; presumably some bright spark thought it would be a good idea, but I can’t see why. At present any advantage eludes me.
Admittedly I’m biased, because not only had I just about succeeded in memorising the numbers of most of the pistes, but it now means that my guide and suggested itineraries, which I’ve been happily sending on request to fellow-Snowheads will require some careful revision.
No longer will we be getting our kicks on piste 66 - in future it will be piste 166 (doesn’t have the same ring to it!)
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@tatmanstours, And the new piste map just does not look as enticing. All the blue shading has gone:

www.saalbach.com/en/winter/ski-resort/piste-map
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That's our "boys" trip sorted, a week courtesy of Crystal at the Pension Schattberg. Anyone stayed there? Recommendations for dinner/beers/apres?
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@Poogle, when you think about it, a hell of a lot of work will be involved, changing all the signs and electronic displays (to say nothing of the brain retraining required!) All for what?
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I agree that changing the piste numbers is pretty pointless, at least in the short term. Luckily I can hardly remember them anyhow Laughing

Another omission which I found strange is that the haven't marked the Zwölferkogel gondola as new.
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@espri, I think that they must have given the job to the work experience trainee this year.

Has anyone noticed that they changed piste 2b to 2a (and 2a to 2)? No longer will be able to stand on top of Schattberg, torn between the available options, and wondering whether it will be "2b, or not 2b".
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Anyone skied from Schatberg/Limberg to Rammern Alm then down to Vorderglemm?
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tatmanstours wrote:
@Poogle, when you think about it, a hell of a lot of work will be involved, changing all the signs and electronic displays (to say nothing of the brain retraining required!) All for what?


To make more work for themselves — that's why! Smile

Still, I would imagine it's because they have to "Harmonise" piste numbers across Saalbach, Leogang, Fieberbrunn & Zell em See. You don't want to tell little Johnny to meet you for lunch at the bottom of piste number 32, and then find he's in Zell em See, and you're in Saalbach. Embarassed
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On the Saalbach web site here there are now reasons given for the new "all-encompassing" piste numbering system (as well as descriptions of other developments this year, the Zwölferkogel lift, etc.).
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I thought I was already having a “maximum joyful experience”, and whilst I get Poogle’s point about harmonising piste numbers across the enlarged area, there really is no hope for someone who gets confused between similar piste numbers in what are still essentially two separate ski resorts. Besides which they overcame that problem very sensibly, after the Ski Circus incorporated Fieberbrunn, by prefixing Fieberbrunn pistes with the letter “F”.
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My initial thought that it was to enable "area" passes sometime in the future i.e. a certain cost for area 1, area 2, whole area etc...
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@tatmanstours,

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there really is no hope for someone who gets confused between similar piste numbers


Don't have any doubt about peoples' stupidity — when I first went skiing with friends in a December many years ago, I was told on the transfer that: "...good news — it's been snowing!". I had no concept that possibly there could have been no snow. DUH. snowHead too Going green
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NickYoung wrote:
My initial thought that it was to enable "area" passes sometime in the future i.e. a certain cost for area 1, area 2, whole area etc...


Given how cheap the superski pass is, I doubt it. I also can't see Zell wanting a qualifying letter before it's piste numbers. They are the 'premier' destination in that area, after all, given they have a railway station, pond and an actual Bogner shop.....
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@tatmanstours, @JesperErnst

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1: Is there a blue run from the shattberg x-press middle station to the bottom? On google maps there is a blue run called skiweg Shattberg x-press, but on the map, that area is closed?


There is indeed a run down from the middle station, and well done for spotting it on Google Maps. And yes you are correct, it’s not on the piste map.

I know this, because I tried it for the first time last year! It’s simply a snow covered road that winds its way through the trees all the way to the bottom of the valley. I don’t think it is pisted, rather just flattened by various tracked snow vehicles going up and down to service the middle station.

As you arrive at the middle station, you will see a little sign on your left indicating it; but this is not an official “piste” as such. It’s a long and winding schlep down, but fun. Kids loved it, as they took short-cuts through the trees.

Just be careful at the bottom to read the signs and keep to the right, so that you end-up back at the bottom of the lift. I rushed it, and we ended-up having to catch the bus back to Saalbach snowHead too snowHead too
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Just trying to amend all the piste numbers in my documentation. Can anyone work out where piste number 6 is? Also 160?
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Piste 6 --- on Schattberg ost there is an unmarked piste (just below the black 7a icon), it splits from 7 and heads to the Schattberg sprinter - could it be 6 ???
piste160 -- just below the H4 Panorama 6er icon (in red )


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@tatmanstours, @JesperErnst

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1: Is there a blue run from the shattberg x-press middle station to the bottom? On google maps there is a blue run called skiweg Shattberg x-press, but on the map, that area is closed?


There is indeed a run down from the middle station, and well done for spotting it on Google Maps. And yes you are correct, it’s not on the piste map.

I know this, because I tried it for the first time last year! It’s simply a snow covered road that winds its way through the trees all the way to the bottom of the valley. I don’t think it is pisted, rather just flattened by various tracked snow vehicles going up and down to service the middle station.

As you arrive at the middle station, you will see a little sign on your left indicating it; but this is not an official “piste” as such. It’s a long and winding schlep down, but fun. Kids loved it, as they took short-cuts through the trees.

Just be careful at the bottom to read the signs and keep to the right, so that you end-up back at the bottom of the lift. I rushed it, and we ended-up having to catch the bus back to Saalbach snowHead too snowHead too


I also tried that run for the first time last winter. I was full of trepidation, thinking that they didn’t really want to encourage people to ski it and that it would be challenging. In the event it was like a blue skiweg. If I recall correctly, it was pisted. I was led to believe that I would end up at the bus stop, which indeed I did, and am not sure that there is a route to the bottom of the lift. Indeed, I wonder if that is the reason why the run isn’t well advertised.
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I was led to believe that I would end up at the bus stop, which indeed I did, and am not sure that there is a route to the bottom of the lift.


Glad you had fun like me! If one follows the road all the way down, then indeed, you will end-up at a bus stop. But if at some point you take a right across the fields, then you will end-up at the entrance to the tunnel that crosses the road to the Shattberg X-Press. It was sign-posted at the bottom, but I simply did bother to read the signs correctly. snowHead

You can see the run here on Google Maps:

www.google.com/maps/@47.3885193,12.62843,1530m/data=
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