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Dolomites 2019/20 News Unofficial Thread

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Kicking off a thread now for next season to start highlighting some upcoming news for the region:

In Alta badia some new lifts planned for the new season:

La Brancia 6-seater chairlift (replaces 4-seater)
Stella Alpina 6-seater chairlift (replaces tow lift))
New Stella Alpina track
La Crusc Gondola 10 seats (replaces 2-seater)

In Alta badia some new infrastructure changes:

Construction should have begun now for a new major junction at the SS49/SS244 roads intersection at San Lorenzo in the Pusteria valley. Should help alleviate getting off and onto the main E66/SS49 road from/to Pusteria valley and Alta Badia

Construction should begin (or has begun) to improve the intersection of the SS244/SP27 roads in La Villa. The SP27 road goes from La Vill to San Cassiano

Construction should hopefully begin this year of a new roundabout in Corvara at the intersection of the road that goes to Colfosco.
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They would be better upgrading the 4 person Sodlisia (in Colfosco, the link between the Borest and Plans bubbles) before the Stella !?

Having said that, good to see the SuperDolomiti continuing to invest snowHead
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albob wrote:
They would be better upgrading the 4 person Sodlisia (in Colfosco, the link between the Borest and Plans bubbles) before the Stella !?

Having said that, good to see the SuperDolomiti continuing to invest snowHead


There has been discussion about upgrading the Sodlisia on another forum but I dont know if its been approved yet. Maybe this will come the following season!!
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Yes, just found something on an Italian forum looking at a replacement in 2020. Have seen a PDF of an application, but my Italian isn't good enough to understand it


https://deliberedl.gvcc.net/026/026_1_29k_2019.pdf :::EDIT:: link dead.


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It's nice to see the investment being made in my favourite ski area.

The queue at La Brancia was never too bad when I've been there but I guess a 4 seater to 6 seater upgrade is relatively easy to do.

The Stella Alpina tow lift always had quite a queue when I've been there so nice to see that being upgraded to a chairlift. It's used a lot by the ski schools so I can imagine there being some pressure to get it done.

The old 2 person La Crusc chairlift up to the church at Santa Croce was antiquated and lethal so needed doing. It felt like I'd been rabbit punched the last time I used it. A 10 person Gondola seems a bit overkill given that it's only fed by the 4 person chairlift. But maybe the chairlift is due for replacement next time around.
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The Stella Alpina is a lovely sunny spot but the queue was a horror for a very short run...

So that upgrade is very welcome and will be interesting to see what the new run is like too...
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I think the lift I'd most like to see upgraded is the long cold chairlift up to Pralongia! (Masarei?). It needn't be a gondola (though that would be nice) but a faster chairlift with a bubble canopy to use when it's windy and heated seats would be luxury compared with the present chairlift.
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1. I'd really like the Capanna nera and Pralongia I tow lifts to be replaced by a chair. First tow is too long and the second one quite steep. Be great to get up to the half way point quickly and ski down to the main Pralongia chair and up to the Pralongia area in a shorter time

2. Regarding the new slope at Stella Alpina, seems it may be just another slope beside the existing one, to the right hand side facing uphill, but dont quote me on this!!
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Alastair Pink wrote:
I think the lift I'd most like to see upgraded is the long cold chairlift up to Pralongia! (Masarei?).


If there was a vote from the Birthday Bashers, this would win! It lives in its own dimension. It's always colder than any other lift in the Sella Ronda Puzzled


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@maggi, glad you agree (great minds etc Toofy Grin )
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I would love if there was an alternative slope constructed to by-pass the dreaded run just above the Capanna Nera It’s always a relief to survive and relax on the terrace with a sundowner while looking up at what sometimes resembles flypaper.
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I would love if there was an alternative slope constructed to by-pass the dreaded run just above the Capanna Nera It’s always a relief to survive and relax on the terrace with a sundowner while looking up at what sometimes resembles flypaper.


Do you mean the steep section of blue 8 that comes down from the base of the Pralongia II chair and La baita Restaurant? If so, I agree but not sure where they would put an alternative slope!!
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Yes exactly the blue 8 Too many being funnelled down at the end of the day. Perhaps because it is now part of the alternative Sella Ronda route. We had a look in the summer and that piste crosses a river and there isn’t any way to alter the slope. But I can wish !
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Always sad to lose a heritage drag lift but progress I suppose. Shame about the crusc chair. That is a lovely tranquil, even romantic journey up through the trees. Sat inside a gondola with eight other people just won’t be the same! The Refugio up at Sante Croce is also likely to be busier. I wonder if they will take the new Gondola right up to the church ?

Thanks for the update. Would love to know how successful last season was in terms of ticket sales.
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some odd changes there, especially changing a drag to a 6er.

I'd have put Costoratta and Vizza chairs higher up the list for upgrade, and some better way to cross over the road at Campolongo. And at least a cover on Maserei.

Alpinforum thread seems to talk about some kind of upgrade to Sodlisia, possibly with a "new" piste that might have been an old piste a long time ago.

Funivie photo seems to suggest that only the top lift of La Crusc will be replaced, which seems really odd. Top station is where the current top is. And some widening of the piste back down.
https://www.funivie.org/immagini_forum/19/r_20190320185045_LaCrusc.JPG
I wonder if changing a 2er to gondola is more for the summer hiking/MTBing? (bikes on chairlifts need staff to at least unload them, and often load them, depending on type, bikes in gondolas don't) But then the lower lift I think is only a 4er, so realistically could only carry 1 staff-assisted (both ends) MTB transport per chair. So dunno.
edit: webcam of the work here... https://www.bergfex.it/alta-badia/webcams/c13384/

Actually I wonder if Dolomiti Superski love for gondolas is for the MTBing, which is picking up (big race there this weekend), cos it saves on a lot of staff on the summer lifts?
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andy wrote:

Actually I wonder if Dolomiti Superski love for gondolas is for the MTBing, which is picking up (big race there this weekend), cos it saves on a lot of staff on the summer lifts?


And it's not just standard mountain bikes either. When I was there in the summer a couple of years ago the whole of Alta badia was covered in tourists on e-mountain bikes. So even when not using lifts you still don't need any muscle to get up the hills. Seemed to be very big business round corvara at least.
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view showing some of the construction at st croce

https://www.bergfex.com/alta-badia/webcams/c13384/
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The Crusc Gondola must be part of a strategy to replace certain lifts with Gondolas? Surely the 4 person chair below will go the same way although I’m surprised the queues are ever that big as it’s out on a limb? I rather like the simple yet high capacity 2 person chair at the top and note that it is only 20 years old! Could be a bargain for some resort second hand! Hope they don’t ruin the character of the run at the top by widening it too much snowHead

Some info about the new Gondola:

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resort/alta-badia/ski-lifts/l106876/

The irony is that the Dolomites has the sunniest weather in the Alps and is therefore probably the area most suited to chairlifts, which may explain the walking, cycling and all abilities strategy which is also future proof in terms of climate change. I do like the comfort and safety of a gondola but they are a bit of a pain with telemark bindings.

I think Maserai is in the Arabba sector so not the responsibility of the Alta Badia

I did read in the good ski guide that Kronplatz has so many gondolas because of regional development subsidies so whether that has anything to do with Alta Badia’s preference ? I also note that Leitner, their main supplier, has its head office not far away, just south of Brenner.
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"The irony is that the Dolomites has the sunniest weather in the Alps "
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Have they moved the dolomites for 2020?
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@freeridechef, Madeye-Smiley

While I do like a cosy gondola, the faff with skis is a real pain.
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The Crusc gondola may have more to do with the development of the areas SummerPark than for skiers

"The SummerPark is located near the upstream station of the "Holy Cross" four-seater chairlift that departs from Pedraces, in Val Badia (BZ) and thanks to its ideal location is sun-kissed from morning to evening. The circular path passes through two shelters: while the children play, the parents have the opportunity to lie down on the terrace and rest. "
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“I think Maserai is in the Arabba sector so not the responsibility of the Alta Badia”

The first Arabba lift is the Chairlift from Campolungo up to Bec de Rosses. Everything on the other side of the road and the lifts to Boe are Alta Badia
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Hi there, as you ski down from Pralongia towards the Vizza you pass through a gate that marks the end of the Alta Badia sector and the start of the Arabba sector.

Here is a list of Arabba lifts which includes the Maserai.

https://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/Experience/Ski-areas/Arabba/Lifts
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I don't think you can tell which area is responsible for upkeep by those lists as some lifts (like maserai) are on both lists. See this list for Alta badia also has maserai on it. https://www.altabadia.org/en/winter-holidays/italian-alps/open-lifts-snow-report.html
The local ski passes overlap in places.
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Maseri is also claimed by Corvara !

https://www.altabadia.org/en/summer-holidays/summer-italian-alps.html

The gate Peter talks about is (I believe) at the bottom of the Incisa lift ; If I had the Badia local pass, I wouldn't like to risk skiing through it !!

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Maybe I would --looking at the Alta Badia piste map it appears to include Cherz and Boe in its coverage ?!?
-------------------------------the Arabba piste map includes Cherz/Maseri/Incisa (no Boe)
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"The irony is that the Dolomites has the sunniest weather in the Alps "
If you want to talk about irony, Toofy Grin


They can also have some seriously cold winds
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Serious thread drift -- but Maseri (No28) as a drag might be warmer than the chair ! :: 1995 map ::




Series of Drags up to Selva !

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The local ALta Badia ski pass will cover all the following:

Vizza chair up to Cherz
Cherz I and II chairs up to Cherz
Costoratta chair up to just below Boe
Crep De mont drag up to Crep De mont
Masarei chair up tp Pralongia

I'm sure it does not cover the lift from Campolongo pass up to Bec De Roces

So, you can definately ski past the gate at base of Incisa down to the Vizza and maserai chairs and then use either of them chairs. I done this several times earlier this year


AGree with Rcav re E-Bikes in ALta Badia. We hired them 2 years ago from Corvara. I just assumed they were the norm everywhere in the Alps!!

Regarding the rumours re Sodlisia chair and the new piste which was an old piste years ago. I think this piste was in the sector below Dantercepies and Jimmys hut. Im sure there was a diagram somewhere showing exactly where it was but i cant find it now.
The biggest complaint currently is that you have to ski down from top station of plans/Frara gondola to Val Setus chair, then up and ski down to the pass to get the chair up to Dantercepies
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You used to be able to ski from the top of Frara across to the Cir chair (bypassing the Setus) if you got up a bit of 'speed' ; over the past few years they have discouraged that by fencing/banking (safety concerns?)

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"I'm sure it does not cover the lift from Campolongo pass up to Bec De Roces" --- Yep

"Costoratta chair up to just below Boe" -- again correct (not quite Boe as I said.. Wink )
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Be nice if they replaced the Crep De Mont drag with a chair. Lovely blue run through the trees with a very long drag back up. I doubt it will ever happen as it's not a transit drag, it's for that run only.
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A link from the bottom of Crep de Mont to the bottom of Pralongia I.
A ski-able crossing from the bottom of Cherz onto the Campolongo plan. snowHead
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"A link from the bottom of Crep de Mont to the bottom of Pralongia I. .."

That is a right 'slog' : best way to do a link ? (re-site Crep drag ?)
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